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chalsall 2019-04-29 20:46

[QUOTE=ewmayer;515166]On l'affaire Assange - the CIA ties of one of the Swedish bizarro-sex-crime (Assange allegedly deliberately split the condom with his fingers during sex, without leaving any trace of DNA on it - a nifty trick, that) accusers are interesting.[/QUOTE]

Did he ejaculate? Did any of the accusers get pregnant, or infected with an STD?

I'm not a fan of Assange. And I don't understand why he simply didn't face the accusations.

Could it be because he feared "extraordinary rendition"?

kladner 2019-04-29 21:56

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;515145]Objection! Already asked and answered. I said [URL="https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=509676&postcount=352"]here[/URL],
I marvel at your extreme sensitivity to my little jest.[/QUOTE]
I marvel at your obsession with smearing Maduro.

ewmayer 2019-04-29 23:29

[QUOTE=chalsall;515168]I'm not a fan of Assange. And I don't understand why he simply didn't face the accusations.

Could it be because he feared "extraordinary rendition"?[/QUOTE]

"Face the accusations" - in what sense? He was interviewed by Swedish police, but no charges have ever been brought. So what is there to face on that front? That legal non sequitur is the basis for Murray's article.

Your latter question gets to the heart of the matter - like fellow USGov embarrasser Edward Snowden and having seen how said government treated his source Chelsea Manning, JA knows full well that he has zero prospect of a fair trial and any kind of justice. The PTB are determined to put him into a deep solitary-confinement hole and be done with him.

Dr Sardonicus 2019-04-30 12:42

[QUOTE=kladner;515174]I marvel at your obsession with smearing Maduro.[/QUOTE]
Calling him by a nickname I happen to find amusing is an "obsession with smearing" him?

Yeesh.

Dr Sardonicus 2019-04-30 12:48

[QUOTE=ewmayer;515185]"Face the accusations" - in what sense? He was interviewed by Swedish police, but no charges have ever been brought. So what is there to face on that front? That legal non sequitur is the basis for Murray's article.[/QUOTE]
In an article excerpt I posted [url=https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=513499&postcount=399]here[/url],[quote]The Wikileaks co-founder had been in the Ecuadorian embassy in London since 2012, after seeking asylum there to avoid extradition to Sweden on a rape allegation.
[b]The investigation into the alleged rape, which he denied, was later dropped because he had evaded the arrest warrant. The Swedish Prosecution Authority has said it is now considering whether to resume the inquiry before the statute of limitations runs out in August 2020.[/b][/quote]

Dr Sardonicus 2019-04-30 13:37

[url=https://www.apnews.com/0153cace08c84c8fbf34f9c6a7bdd4dd]Venezuela’s Guaido takes to streets in military uprising[/url][quote]The dramatic events playing out in the opposition’s stronghold in wealthier eastern Caracas appeared not to have triggered a broader military revolt.[/quote]

ewmayer 2019-04-30 23:14

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;515260][QUOTE=ewmayer;515185]"Face the accusations" - in what sense? He was interviewed by Swedish police, but no charges have ever been brought. So what is there to face on that front? That legal non sequitur is the basis for Murray's article.[/QUOTE]
In an article excerpt I posted [url=https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=513499&postcount=399]here[/url],[quote]The Wikileaks co-founder had been in the Ecuadorian embassy in London since 2012, after seeking asylum there to avoid extradition to Sweden on a rape allegation.
[b]The investigation into the alleged rape, which he denied, was later dropped because he had evaded the arrest warrant. The Swedish Prosecution Authority has said it is now considering whether to resume the inquiry before the statute of limitations runs out in August 2020.[/b][/quote][/QUOTE]

"The investigation ... was later dropped because he had evaded the arrest warrant" is your spin - if one believes one has a case, and since forensic evidence had been gathered and interviews done on basis of which to form such a judgment, the prosecution could very well have continued to investigate.

The bottom line is that the earlier arrest warrant has been voided at request of the Swedish crown prosecutor, i.e. there is no warrant, no "music to face" at present. Wikipedia:
[quote]On 19 May 2017, the Swedish chief prosecutor applied to the Stockholm District Court to rescind the arrest warrant for Julian Assange,[39] effectively ceasing their investigation against Julian Assange.[40] The case may be reinstated until the expiration of the statute of limitations.[/quote]
Again, I quote Murray:
[quote]Only the more minor allegation has passed the statute of limitations deadline. The major allegation, equivalent to rape, is still well within limits. Sweden has had seven years to complete the investigation and prepare the case. It is over two years since they interviewed Julian Assange in the Ecuadorean Embassy. They have had years and years to collect all the evidence and prepare the charges.

So where, Swedish prosecutors, are your charges? Where is your arrest warrant?

[b]Julian Assange has never been charged with anything in Sweden. He was merely “wanted for questioning”[/b], a fact the MSM repeatedly failed to make clear.[/quote]

chalsall 2019-04-30 23:22

[QUOTE=ewmayer;515327]Again, I quote Murray:[/QUOTE]

If one assumes Assange is somewhat learned, why is he so fearful?

S485122 2019-05-01 08:57

[QUOTE=chalsall;515328]If one assumes Assange is somewhat learned, why is he so fearful?[/QUOTE]Because it was evident (for him and others) that he would be extradited to the USA. This has been stated by him from the beginning. Having one accuser who may (allegedly) have worked for the CIA can be a factor also.

Jacob

xilman 2019-05-01 09:58

[QUOTE=S485122;515373]Because it was evident (for him and others) that he would be extradited to the USA. This has been stated by him from the beginning. Having one accuser who may (allegedly) have worked for the CIA can be a factor also.

Jacob[/QUOTE]For many years I have expressed my opinion that the lengthy and expensive farce that was Assange's staying the Ecuador embassy would not have occurred had the Swedish government made a public statement that he would [b]not[/be] extradited to the US whether or not he was convicted of crimes he allegedly committed in Sweden.

Dr Sardonicus 2019-05-01 13:40

[QUOTE=ewmayer;515327]"The investigation ... was later dropped because he had evaded the arrest warrant" is your spin[/QUOTE]
[i]My[/i] spin? Seriously? The passage was copy-pasted from the April 12 news article I linked to in my previous post. That article is [url=https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47891737]here[/url]. Since when am I running the BBC?

[b]EDIT:[/b] The article also mentions[quote][b]What are the US charges against him?[/b]

The indictment against Assange, issued last year in the state of Virginia, alleges that he conspired in 2010 with Manning to access classified information on Department of Defense computers. He faces up to five years in jail.[/quote]


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