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chalsall 2018-04-11 21:42

[QUOTE=ewmayer;485068]May I suggest you peddle that sort of counterfactual rubbish over at Daily Kos?[/QUOTE]

Just to drill down on this a bit further...

Have you ever worked with oxyacetylene welding kit? Serious stuff.

Four hydrogen atoms; two carbon atoms. Skinny as heck. Loves oxygen.

kladner 2018-04-11 21:59

[QUOTE=chalsall;485073]Or, perhaps, here...

It is simple to make a very bad gas anywhere consumer products are available.

Mixing chlorine bleach with vinegar is a really bad idea, for example....[/QUOTE]
Bleach plus household ammonia can be deadly.

chalsall 2018-04-11 22:04

[QUOTE=kladner;485079]Bleach plus household ammonia can be deadly.[/QUOTE]

Please forgive me for this, but do you know why?

chalsall 2018-04-11 23:07

[QUOTE=chalsall;485080]Please forgive me for this, but do you know why?[/QUOTE]

Since no one seems to be comfortable speaking to this, may I please present [URL="https://h2g2.com/edited_entry/A795611"]an authoritative statement[/URL]?

In some ways this is unreasonable, since the chlorine around a pool is probably greater than what could be achieved by an attack.

But, this is where we find ourselves...

I look forward to responses....

kladner 2018-04-11 23:34

[QUOTE=chalsall;485080]Please forgive me for this, but do you know why?[/QUOTE]
Now I am reminded of the chemical details:
[url]https://www.thoughtco.com/bleach-and-ammonia-chemical-reaction-609280[/url]

chalsall 2018-04-12 00:12

[QUOTE=kladner;485094]Now I am reminded of the chemical details:
[url]https://www.thoughtco.com/bleach-and-ammonia-chemical-reaction-609280[/url][/QUOTE]

Weren't you taught this is high school?

kladner 2018-04-12 00:29

[QUOTE=chalsall;485104]Weren't you taught this is high school?[/QUOTE]
I was taught it at my mother's knee, as it were. She was an industrial chemist during WWII. (Metallurgy. Hughes Tool.) Lost her job when the men came back from war. I did not remember the particular products.

chalsall 2018-04-12 00:41

[QUOTE=kladner;485109]I was taught it at my mother's knee, as it were. She was an industrial chemist during WWII. (Metallurgy. Hughes Tool.) Lost her job when the men came back from war. I did not remember the particular products.[/QUOTE]

Please forgive me for that. No offence meant.

Chemistry will be one of the first things replaced by AI, just after truck drivers.

chalsall 2018-04-12 01:25

[QUOTE=kladner;485109]I was taught it at my mother's knee, as it were. She was an industrial chemist during WWII. (Metallurgy. Hughes Tool.) Lost her job when the men came back from war. I did not remember the particular products.[/QUOTE]

I resonate somewhat with this.

I was allowed to play with matches as a child. Starting fires with surfer. Lot of fun for all.

I once compressed several matches into a "bolt bomb" which worked so well I almost blew my eyes out.

To this day I have shrapnel in my eyes, which disallows me from having an MRI.

"My goodness!", they say, "that almost went all the way through your cornea!".

kladner 2018-04-12 03:41

[QUOTE=chalsall;485111]Please forgive me for that. [U] No offence meant.[/U]

Chemistry will be one of the first things replaced by AI, just after truck drivers.[/QUOTE]
None taken. :wink:
I did some pretty crazy stuff with the chemistry set they gave me. The supply of calcium carbide I got my Dad to get for me was endless fun, too.

Uncwilly 2018-04-12 13:43

[QUOTE=chalsall;485077]Have you ever worked with oxyacetylene welding kit? Serious stuff.

Four hydrogen atoms; two carbon atoms. Skinny as heck. Loves oxygen.[/QUOTE]Surprised that no one else mentioned that this is blatantly false. C[SUB]2[/SUB]H[SUB]2[/SUB] is the gas in question. All of that extra energy comes from the triple bond. C[SUB]2[/SUB]H[SUB]4[/SUB] does not yield as much energy as C[SUB]2[/SUB]H[SUB]2[/SUB], per mole.

Back to Chem 101 for you.


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