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henryzz 2016-10-03 12:45

New PC
 
My Q6600 pc has finally given up. It has served me well for the past 8 years. RIP:cry:
I had been holding off getting a new pc until I could get AVX512 but can't do that now.

Here is the build I am thinking of:

i7-6700K £281.94
ASUS Z170-K £109.99
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 Memory £79.99
Fractal Design Define R5 £99.95 - have been impressed by my dad's R3

I will also need a cpu cooler. I am not too fussy although I want long lasting and quiet. Probably a fluid dynamic bearing. Any suggestions?
I currently have:
550w 80+ Gold modular psu
750Ti GPU
~250GB ssd
2TB SSHD


[url]https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7+6700K+4.00GHz+Skylake+Processor+Unlocked+-+Retail+?productId=64168[/url]
[url]https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Intel+Socket/Socket+1151+-+Intel+Z170/Asus+Z170-K+Intel+Skylake+ATX+Motherboard+?productId=64370[/url]
[url]https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/RAM/DDR4/Dual+Channel+2400MHz/Corsair+Vengeance+LPX+16GB+%282x8GB%29+2400MHz+DDR4+Memory+-+Red+?productId=65065[/url]
[url]https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Midi+Tower/Fractal+Design+Define+R5+Black+Ultra+Quiet+USB3+Performance+Gaming+PC+Case+?productId=62463[/url]



Any suggestions for improvements/cooler?
I want an i7 due to nfs sieving running faster with hyperthreading. I will also be doing a lot of LLR tests. Hopefully more of this will fit in the larger L2 cache.
In a few years I will probably upgrade the ram speed/capacity.

In addition to this I will be attempting to move over an upgrade windows 10 license. Does anyone have any experience of this? I think it changed somewhat after the anniversary update.

Mark Rose 2016-10-03 15:18

Start with 3200 or 3000 MHz memory. It will make a difference. That CPU is memory starved, especially if you overclock it.

You can't go wrong with a Noctua cooler.

henryzz 2016-10-03 16:01

Good point. I would hope that most of what I do will fit in the L2 cache but there will be occasions where it won't. I am not sure how I didn't notice that the 3000 memory isn't that much more. 3200 is though.
[url]https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/RAM/DDR4/Dual+Channel+3000MHz/G.Skill+Trident+Z+16GB+%282x8GB%29+3000MHz+DDR4+Memory+?productId=65079[/url]

Slightly reluctant to have memory at 1.35v. Hopefully it will run at lower. Want a long lasting memory controller.

The shop I use only sells one type of Noctua cooler and it is £55. I was hoping to be <£30.

Prime95 2016-10-03 16:35

Consider replacing the PSU with a more efficient version (Titanium or one notch lower). Depending on your electricity prices and power consumption, a new PSU could pay for itself in a couple years especially if you can pick one up on sale.

Mark Rose 2016-10-03 16:39

If you don't need a lot of drives, you may also want to consider the Define S. It has better airflow and it's cheaper. I recently built a system in one.

henryzz 2016-10-03 17:27

[QUOTE=Prime95;444146]Consider replacing the PSU with a more efficient version (Titanium or one notch lower). Depending on your electricity prices and power consumption, a new PSU could pay for itself in a couple years especially if you can pick one up on sale.[/QUOTE]
Right now I would prefer to not spend money that I don't have to. I realize that this would be sensible in the future. I wouldn't spend so much on parts such as the cpu and motherboard apart from the fact that long-term they would be expensive to upgrade. I finished an MSc less than a month ago and am still searching for a job. In a few months finances will improve.

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;444148]If you don't need a lot of drives, you may also want to consider the Define S. It has better airflow and it's cheaper. I recently built a system in one.[/QUOTE]

A strong possibility. I will look at reviews.
I do plan to have more drives in the future. I will be adding another 3.5 inch drive for backups and quite possibly a dvd drive(my current one is ide and is 10+ years old). That is a little tight for me as I would always want a spare slot for if I was changing drives.

Mark Rose 2016-10-03 17:40

[quote]
A strong possibility. I will look at reviews.
I do plan to have more drives in the future. I will be adding another 3.5 inch drive for backups and quite possibly a dvd drive(my current one is ide and is 10+ years old). That is a little tight for me as I would always want a spare slot for if I was changing drives.[/QUOTE]

The Define S doesn't support external drives.

henryzz 2016-10-03 19:03

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;444153]The Define S doesn't support external drives.[/QUOTE]

That is probably a deal breaker. I don't use CDs that much but I do want it convenient.

paulunderwood 2016-10-03 19:07

Shop around: there are some great deals on ebay :smile:

S485122 2016-10-03 20:14

Concerning your PSU with Gold rating it is already relatively efficient. Dumping it for a Platinium would make sense only if its capacity is not enough at the moment (the peak efficiency is round 50 % of the nominal capacity.) At the moment you have 91 W for the CPU, less than 75 W for the chipset, fans, disks and the permanently occupied USB ports... On the NVidia site I see 60 W for the GPU and a recommendation of 300W minimum for the power supply (400 W on the Gigabyte site.) The total of your needs would be less than 250 W and this means your current PSU is sufficient.

If you "don't use CDs that much" you could try an external USB DVD or even blue-ray reader.

If you want to stick to 1,2 V for your memory 2800 MHz will be the maximum frequency. Like other posters I think you would be better off with faster memory even if its voltage would need to be 1,35 V.

Jacob

henryzz 2016-10-24 16:01

Currently trying to get this pc stable. I am getting iterations being zeroed every so often in a torture test. Does this mean memory or cpu? It seems a strange error to me for instability.


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