Guys,

From the Home office:

“This is the latest information on the EU Settlement Scheme for EU citizens living in the UK. You are receiving this because you have requested email updates from the UK Government.

Update on the EU Settlement Scheme

There have been reports in the media and on social media regarding plans to end freedom of movement after we leave the EU, as well as what this means for EU citizens resident in the UK.

We want to reassure all EU citizens and their family members in the UK that you still have until at least 31 December 2020 to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme, even in the event of a no-deal exit. Furthermore, if someone who is eligible for status is not in the UK when we leave the EU, they will still be free to enter the UK as they are now.

Those who have not yet applied to the EU Settlement Scheme by 31 October 2019 will still have the same entitlements to work, benefits and services. Those rights will not change. EU citizens will continue to be able to prove their rights to access these benefits and services in the same way as they do now.

Further details can be found in our free movement factsheet, but please feel free to contact us in writing by clicking here.”

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The measures, which were formally announced on Friday, included the guarantee that those Britons legally resident in Spain on March 29th would be offered new permanent residency papers.

Announcing the Royal Decree, Foreign Minister Josep Borrell told a press conference in Moncloa that the measures were designed as a contingency plan “in case Britain leaves the EU without securing a withdrawal agreement.”

“It will assure the continued rights of those British living in Spain,” said Borrell adding that “ although it is unilateral measure passed by Spain, we expect that it will be met with reciprocity by the British government. “[/quote]
See [url]https://www.thelocal.es/20190301/spain-guarantees-residency-for-400000-brits-even-with-hard-brexit[/url] for the full article.


[url]https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-in-spain[/url] for the latest UK advice. Chasing links from there turns up [url]https://www.gov.uk/guidance/residency-requirements-in-spain[/url]

I do, of course, have a NIE.

If you have an NIE you should be fine. But I am just saying that this is
1) on a reciprocal basis.
2) Given the muppets in charge of the UK they could potentially create problems for EU citizens in the UK in the event of a no deal Brexit.
3) Even if they didn’t, Home Office is not fit for purpose.
4) If large numbers of EU citizens have problems like the news story I linked, there may be repercussions for UK citizens in the EU.

Let us hope it doesn’t come to that.

Your wording led me to believe you were claiming there was a special UK-Spain bilateral arrangement which is not the case afaict.

[QUOTE=garo;524851]
1) on a reciprocal basis.
[/QUOTE]The Spanish article to which I linked explicitly stated that it was a unilateral decision made by the Spanish government.

Of course the Spanish would wish for reciprocity, as do I.

4) That’s BS. People should read the rules instead of complaining. I’ve yet to apply for the scheme but beforehand I know I’ll only be granted the pre-settled status. Only last week I’ve completed 5 years living in the U.K. but I haven’t worked the full period. I have evidence of everything of my payrolls, when I was abroad on work, taxes, council, national insurance, bills paid, voting polls, etc.

BTW, this remains me when I was living in Brazil when I went to legalise ourselves at the federal police at the airport. The police officer told me 90% failed to legalise due to lack of proves and documentations. I even did it to my Iranian friends free of charge.

[QUOTE=xilman;524853]The Spanish article to which I linked explicitly stated that it was a unilateral decision made by the Spanish government.

Of course the Spanish would wish for reciprocity, as do I.[/QUOTE]

Ok so unilaterally guaranteed by the Spanish. Mighty decent of them. Much better than what the UK is doing.

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;524854]4) That’s BS. People should read the rules instead of complaining. I’ve yet to apply for the scheme but beforehand I know I’ll only be granted the pre-settled status. Only last week I’ve completed 5 years living in the U.K. but I haven’t worked the full period. I have evidence of everything of my payrolls, when I was abroad on work, taxes, council, national insurance, bills paid, voting polls, etc.

BTW, this remains me when I was living in Brazil when I went to legalise ourselves at the federal police at the airport. The police officer told me 90% failed to legalise due to lack of proves and documentations. I even did it to my Iranian friends free of charge.[/QUOTE]

Did you read the Reuter’s article I linked?

[URL="https://www.euronews.com/2019/01/10/what-would-a-no-deal-brexit-mean-for-citizens-rights"]Probably the most comprehensive explainer.[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nick;524779]Already 98 companies have moved out of Britain because of the way Brexit is being handled, and that is just to the Netherlands.
I don't think the thousands of Brits losing their jobs will find it exciting.[/QUOTE]


By 'Brits' you mean the people who voted for the exit? :razz:


I don't know why I find this amusing, that country still lives from the glory of the former empire, and I didn't see any good thing made there since Novell NetWare (which we loved much during the DOS era) died. What it is really needed there is a new George Soros..
[COLOR=White](yeah, hit me now!)[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=LaurV;524901]... since Novell NetWare ...[/QUOTE]
Perhaps they will bring out a Channel Tunnel version of snipes...

[url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49573555]Brexit: Boris Johnson defeated as MPs take control[/url]

Twenty-one Tories voted against Johnson to allow the MPs to control the agenda.

This makes it [i]possible[/i] (just barely) to pass a "no no-deal Brexit" bill and have it become law by Monday.