[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;498701][url=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/suspicious-package-found-at-clintons-home-police-say]Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare[/url]

Naturally, [i]Il Duce[/i] expressed regret over his many remarks condoning political violence, and insulting or vilifying the particular targets in this case.

And he has called each and every one of them to assure them he has taken a personal interest in bringing those involved to justice.

Oh, wait...[/QUOTE]

That regret lasted a super long time too: [url]https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/413050-trump-rally-chants-lock-her-up-after-in-wake-of-bomb-threats-to[/url]

[QUOTE=wombatman;498710]That regret lasted a super long time too: [url]https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/413050-trump-rally-chants-lock-her-up-after-in-wake-of-bomb-threats-to[/url][/QUOTE]
That "Oh, wait" should have told you -- I wasn't being entirely serious.

[i]Il Duce[/i] has said the congress-critter who body-slammed a reporter (and then lied about it) is "one tough cookie" and "my guy."

Now, a guy accused of groping a woman on a Southwest flight said [url=https://www.foxnews.com/travel/florida-man-accused-of-groping-passenger-on-southwest-flight]the President of the United States says it’s OK to grab women by their private parts[/url]. It's a federal charge, too. So maybe [i]Il Duce[/i] will say "He's my kind of guy" and pardon him.

I offer the words [i]incite[/i] (urge to commit unlawful acts) and [i]abet[/i] (encourage or approve of unlawful acts) to describe [i]Il Duce[/i]'s demagoguery.

Some interesting background on "mad MAGA bomber" Cesar Sayoc:

[url=https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/10/michael-olenick-real-story-magabomber-cesar-sayocs-foreclosure.html]Michael Olenick: The Real Story of "MAGA Bomber" Cesar Sayoc's Foreclosure[/url] | naked capitalism

Millions of people lost their homes to similar 'fraudclosure' under the Obama administration's tender ministrations. Not that much has changed - as author Olenick points out in the comments, current SecTreas Steve Mnuchin was one such mortgage vulture.

[QUOTE=ewmayer;499062]<snip>
Millions of people lost their homes to similar 'fraudclosure' under the Obama administration's tender ministrations. Not that much has changed - as author Olenick points out in the comments, current SecTreas Steve Mnuchin was one such mortgage vulture.[/QUOTE]
Not just any vulture. He [i]owned[/i] the bank when it foreclosed on Sayoc in September 2009. Of course, [i]he[/i] wasn't on Sayoc's hit list. Nor were the folks in the Florida foreclosure system who ramrodded the case through, despite dodgy paperwork and lack of service of process.

Nullifying the Constitution by fiat
 

[url=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-plans-executive-order-to-limit-birthright-citizenship-today-2018-10-30/]Trump plans executive order to end birthright citizenship for some U.S.-born babies[/url] Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States says[quote]All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.[/quote]
[i]Il Duce[/i] seems to think he can carve out an exception for those born to illegal immigrants. IMO it's going to take a lot of comedy to laugh off that "All persons."

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;499104][url=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-plans-executive-order-to-limit-birthright-citizenship-today-2018-10-30/]Trump plans executive order to end birthright citizenship for some U.S.-born babies[/url] Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States says
[i]Il Duce[/i] seems to think he can carve out an exception for those born to illegal immigrants. IMO it's going to take a lot of comedy to laugh off that "All persons."[/QUOTE]

I don't think those that love this idea have any idea as to the problems it will cause. It tells me that all citizens will eventually be required to show that all of their parents were citizens and their grandparents were citiziens, etc. Does this mean that if both of my parents were born in the US, but their parents were undocumented, then I could automatically lose my citizenship? What will be the burden of proof regarding that documentation? Will it be some arbitrary decision of a person or the courts to determine if there is enough documentation or that it is valid documentation?

I expect most die-hard conservatives will cheer such a decision and those who are conservative but disagree won't say anything. This is just more proof that this presidency is more like a tyranny.

[QUOTE=rogue;499119]I don't think those that love this idea have any idea as to the problems it will cause. <snip>[/QUOTE]
My thinking is, this is a bunch of BS he's spouting, to sound good to his anti-immigrant supporters. I doubt he's actually received any legal advice that his hare-brained idea would fly. If anyone has told him this idea would work, it's probably some fawning sycophant telling him what he wants to hear, which is what he's doing with (or to) his supporters.

The text of the Fourteenth Amendment is crystal clear: "[b]All persons[/b] born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." There is no question about illegal immigrants, or their children in this country, being subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Illegal immigrants have been getting deported since long before [i]Il Duce[/i] was elected or took office. The deportations are done under US jurisdiction.

[i]Il Duce[/i]'s talk about sending the military to stop the "caravan" from crossing into the US is, at best, highly exaggerated. The military can only offer support (logistics, engineering, etc) to the border patrol. They can't directly act to enforce US law. The 1872 Posse Comitatus Act forbids it.

I'm from the other side of the pond (read Europe, specifically, France) but Posse Comitatus prevent military to deploy on domestic soil unless by special order.
Orangey could give that special order. Or deploy troops on foreign soil. with or without authorisation from these foreign nation. (And sorry if I miss-interpreted what posse comitatus is.. my only 'experience' of it come from a [URL="http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/962"]web comic[/URL].)

[QUOTE=firejuggler;499266]I'm from the other side of the pond (read Europe, specifically, France) but Posse Comitatus prevent military to deploy on domestic soil unless by special order.
Orangey could give that special order. Or deploy troops on foreign soil. with or without authorisation from these foreign nation. (And sorry if I miss-interpreted what posse comitatus is.. my only 'experience' of it come from a [URL="http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/962"]web comic[/URL].)[/QUOTE]Of course, soldiers can't be deployed [i]anywhere[/i] without orders being issued. The Posse Comitatus Act basically means, you can't have soldiers doing police work -- gathering evidence, making arrests on criminal charges, etc. They can, however, be used to [i]assist[/i] law-enforcement agencies in all sorts of ways -- building roads, constructing buildings, doing paperwork, moving supplies around, etc.

However, military forces have been used to enforce court orders by way of preventing riots. The National Guard has sometimes been put "in service of the United States" (or "Federalized") to stop state officials from using them to thwart federal court rulings.

In the "Little Rock Crisis" of 1957, both were done. Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus had used the Arkansas National Guard to prevent desegregation. The Mayor of Little Rock called President Eisenhower for help -- he wanted soldiers to protect the "Little Rock Nine" as they entered the school. He got them -- Eisenhower ordered in the 101st Airborne Division (without any of its black soldiers). He also "Federalized" the Arkansas National Guard, taking them out of the Governor's control.

You better STAND for the national anthem!
 

I wonder if [i]Il Duce[/i] has heard about this one. It came up in "On This Day" for November 4, 2018. Maybe he'll say he's solving the NFL's "kneeling" problem once and for all, and issue an Executive Order with the same effect. I mean, if he can overrule the Constitution by executive order, why not create legislation by executive fiat?[quote]One year ago: China's rubber-stamp legislature made it a criminal offense to disrespect the country's national anthem, punishable by up to three years in prison; the move came amid rising nationalist appeals from the ruling Communist Party.[/quote]

Free speech?