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davar55 2017-06-09 13:43

Googled "the next u.s. president", found a site with a selection
of mays and won'ts. In particular, they say George Clooney and
Nikki Haley have declined...

Dr Sardonicus 2017-06-09 13:57

[QUOTE=ewmayer;460848]Meanwhile, shock and alarm amongst the UK establishment as this whole "unexpected wave of anti-austerity populism" [url=http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/06/exit-polls-show-may-led-tories-loss-majority.html]continues to surge[/url].[/QUOTE]
Hmm. It seems the election gave a "hung Parliament" (no party has a majority of the 650 seats). The Queen has given PM May (Conservatives got 318 seats) permission to form a government, which will apparently be a coalition with the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) which got 10 seats.

It seems that UK Independence Party (UKIP), which championed Brexit, lost [i]all[/i] its seats in Parliament. It got fewer than 600,000 votes, compared to almost 3.9 million in 2015. Its leader, Paul Nuttal, has quit "with immediate effect," and deleted his Twitter and Facebook accounts.

Meanwhile, Nigel Farage, former UKIP leader who appeared at a Trump campaign rally, has been on [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91AvxCANYUk]Fox and Friends Sunday[/url] seizing on the latest terrorist attack in London, saying[quote]We want genuine action. And if there is not action, then the calls for internment will grow. We have over 3,000 people on a sort of known terrorist list, and we’re watching and monitoring their activities, but a further 20,000 people who are persons of interest, mainly they’re linked in some way to extremist organizations. Unless we see the government getting tough, you will see public calls for those 3,000 to be arrested. And I’m not sure, I’m not sure that that is the right approach, because the big danger with that is we might alienate decent, fair-minded Muslims in Britain.[/quote]

Daily Mail columnist Katie Hopkins added:[quote]We do need internment camps. Before, I would’ve bought the idea that, no, this gets more people radicalized. You know, that’s not the solution. But we’ve gone beyond the tipping point. I tell you this country cannot take another attack.[/quote]

"This country cannot take another attack?" Really? I may be only an ignorant US-er, but IMHO history has shown the UK to be quite a bit more resilient than that.

ewmayer 2017-06-09 20:25

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;460864]"This country cannot take another attack?" Really? I may be only an ignorant US-er, but IMHO history has shown the UK to be quite a bit more resilient than that.[/QUOTE]

Indeed, but in the wake of the Manchester bombing it as usual seems taboo in the MSM to discuss the [url=http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/05/detail-emerge-on-the-manchester-blowback-from-britains-terror-support-.html
]'blowback from imperial adventurism' aspects of such terror[/url]:
[quote]Known Libyan radicals were released from control order in Britain, given their passports back and hauled off to Libya. There British special forces were on the ground and British fighter planes in the air to support their fighting against the legitimate Libyan government. MI-5, the domestic British spy service, "sorted" the fighters sent from Britain. [b]The responsible British Home Secretary at that time? One Theresa May, now the British Prime Minister.[/b][/quote]

science_man_88 2017-06-09 20:33

I think it's interesting how trump says Comey is lying and a leaker. The two seem to be mutually exclusive, at least until told about it, because, only being told that Comey's statements are negations can we conclude the opposite may be true by contradiction. Also the person on twitter, saying oh he took down illegal immigration 60%, how many women and children have not been raped because he put a halt on it. Ignoring that by pigeonhole principle unless rapists>40% or there's another cause of overlap the answer could be none. They also say to the news here how they are getting laughed at, ignoring the fact that to knowingly laugh at something, you first have to watch it in theory.

Dr Sardonicus 2017-06-10 13:24

[QUOTE=ewmayer;460889]Indeed, but in the wake of the Manchester bombing it as usual seems taboo in the MSM to discuss the [url=http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/05/detail-emerge-on-the-manchester-blowback-from-britains-terror-support-.html]'blowback from imperial adventurism' aspects of such terror[/url]:[/QUOTE]

Yes, I saw that quote from the Moon of Alabama "where barflies gather together" [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19582&page=24]here[/url] in post #262.

Another quotation from the same page of "Moon of Alabama":

[quote]All these attacks by Takfiris, in Paris, in Brussels, Berlin and Manchester as well as in Libya, Syria and Iraq, have [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/manchester-attack-salman-abedi-salafi-jihadism-wahhabism-isis-al-qaeda-islam-muslim-suicide-bombing-a7754301.html]their ideological roots in Wahhabism[/url], the extreme version of Salafist Islam promoted in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The roots of such terrorism are in Riyadh and Doha and will have to be fought there.[/quote]

It was widely publicized after 9/11 that, in addition to 15 of the 19 kamikaze hijackers being Saudis, the Saudis had been funding madrassas (which indoctrinate people into Wahhabism) in many places, including Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Now, we have this same Saudi Arabia, along with the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Bahrain severing diplomatic relations with Qatar, kicking Qataris out of their countries, and cutting off air and sea traffic to Qatar. In response, Iran offered Qatar food and the use of its airspace.

Our FAKE PRESIDENT[SUP]TM[/SUP], who recently visited Saudi Arabia, immediately took their side in the dispute, apparently in blissful ignorance of the fact that we have a military base in Qatar (Al Udeid air base, our largest military base in the Mideast, with 11,000 US military personnel, from which we have been launching air strikes against ISIS). Secretary of State Tillerson tried to smooth things over with Qatar, but his efforts were soon undermined by the man who hired him.

Now, NATO ally Turkey [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/erdogan-vows-stand-qatari-brothers-crisis-170609204946107.html]has weighed in on behalf of Qatar[/url]. Turkish [STRIKE]president[/STRIKE] dictator Tayyip Erdogan has approved the deployment of Turkish troops to Qatar.

Dr Sardonicus 2017-06-13 13:46

[QUOTE=kladner;460299][URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/president-little-big-man/[/URL][quote]He’s huge. Outsized. He fills the news hole at any moment of any day. His over-tanned face glows unceasingly in living rooms across America. Never has a president been quite so big. So absolutely monstrous. Or quite so small.[/quote][quote]He’s our Little Big Man.
I know, I know… he induces panic, fear, anxiety, insomnia. Shrinks in liberal America will tell you that, since November 2016, their patients are more heavily medicated and in worse shape. He’s a nightmare, a unique monster. It’s been almost two years since he first entered the presidential race and in all that time I doubt there’s been a moment when the cameras haven’t been trained on him, when he wasn’t “breaking news.” (By May 2016, he had already reportedly received the equivalent in “earned media” of nearly $3 billion in free advertising.) He and his endless controversial statements, flubs, tweets, lies, insults, boasts, tales from outer space, and over-the-moon adjectives are covered daily the way, once upon a time, only Pearl Harbor or the Kennedy assassination was.
Think of him as the end of the world as we, or maybe anyone, including Vladimir Putin, knew it. To me, that means one thing, even though most of you won’t agree: I think we owe Donald Trump a small bow of thanks and a genuine debt of gratitude. He’s teaching us something invaluable, something we probably wouldn’t have grasped without him. He’s teaching us just how deeply disturbed our American world actually is, or he wouldn’t be where he is.[/quote][/QUOTE]

Now, [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_qOnuaLsYQ]Trump's Cabinet has brown-nosing contest[/url]. Somehow, it reminded me of [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUktJbp2Ug]this[/url].

ewmayer 2017-07-09 23:28

o [url=https://newrepublic.com/article/143730/americas-first-postmodern-president]America's First Postmodern President[/url] | The New Republic
[quote]This analysis suggests that Trump is the product not just of a fluke election or a racist and sexist backlash, but the culmination of late capitalism. This has profound implications for how we see Trump—and how we oppose him. We have to focus less on Trump’s personal flaws and more on the world that has enabled him. His habitual prevarications aren’t simply the result of his defective character, but an effective tactic. In a world where commerce and media (including social media) reward performance above truth telling, it’s not surprising that a figure like Trump rises to the top. Any moralistic condemnation of Trump is incomplete without acknowledging the institutions (notably the media) that both created him and allowed him to thrive.[/quote]
Note that there is dissent on who best deserves the 'first postmodern president' appellation, e.g. from [url=https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1993/04/the-first-postmodern-presidency/307261/]The Atlantic[/url] and [url=https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/08/10/barack_obama_the_postmodern_president_287052.html]Real Clear Politics[/url]. (h/t NC reader 'RenoDino' for the links.)

Dr Sardonicus 2017-07-10 12:43

[QUOTE=ewmayer;463035]o [url=https://newrepublic.com/article/143730/americas-first-postmodern-president]America's First Postmodern President[/url] | The New Republic[/quote]
[quote]Any moralistic condemnation of Trump is incomplete without acknowledging the institutions (notably the media) that both created him and allowed him to thrive.[/quote]
For some reason,that reminds me of the following from Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei Feb 7, 2017:
[quote]We actually thank this new president [Trump]! We thank him, because he made it easier for us to reveal the real face of the United States. What we have been saying, for over thirty years, about political, economic, moral, and social corruption within the U.S. ruling establishment, he came out and exposed during the election campaigns and after the elections.[/quote]I'm not a big fan of Iran's ruling elites, but when the man's right, the man's right...

xilman 2017-07-11 17:53

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40560800[/url]

I can, but won't yet, make a series of comments on this analysis. Let's give other people a chance first.

ewmayer 2017-07-12 00:26

[QUOTE=xilman;463174][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40560800[/url]

I can, but won't yet, make a series of comments on this analysis. Let's give other people a chance first.[/QUOTE]

See yesterday's [url=www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/07/links-71017.html]NC daily links page[/url] for set of links and editorial commentary. E.g.
[i]
As Nina Illingworth writes: “The two core accusations behind Russiagate are: A) Trump is an intel asset; B) Russia rigged the election. You don’t get to change it to “Trump knows some guys who know Russians” and “Russia wrote stories on RT” and declare f*cking victory. NO.”
[/i]
And rather hilarious to see the purported shock & horror at the sheer *unseemliness* - if not downright treasonousabilityiferousness of - gasp! - doing what is commonly referred to as "oppo research" on one's opponents. I'm sure Team HRC only spoke to certified loyal American Patriots in doing their oppo on Trump, right? Pathetic. And as ever, usefully - for the dangerous tribalists and establishment elites peddling this bunk - distracting from the real stuff that is happening in DC.

More Russia-steria - related inanity:

[url=https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/10/barbara-lees-slam-on-trump-putin-meeting/]Barbara Lee's Slam on Trump-Putin Meeting[/url] | Consortiumnews -- [i]The Democratic Party’s embrace of the New Cold War and New McCarthyism – to counter President Trump – has spread to Rep. Barbara Lee, a brave voice against the post-9/11 war frenzy, as Norman Solomon notes in an open letter.[/i]
[quote]Dear Congresswoman Lee:

More than a decade and a half ago, your eloquent words and courageous vote set a high bar as you stood up against a war frenzy on the House floor. Three days after 9/11, you implemented the kind of brave wisdom that we desperately need in a world beset by the massive violence of warfare and the overarching dangers of nuclear holocaust.

Since then, like many other people opposed to perpetual war, I’ve deeply appreciated your leadership in advocating for diplomacy instead of reckless confrontation in international relations. Year after year, following your lone vote against a blank check for war on Sept. 14, 2001, you’ve been a steadfast voice for the necessity of diplomatic initiatives.

Until now.

Your longtime wisdom is antithetical to the tweet that you sent out after the meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin from your official “Rep. Barbara Lee” Twitter account: “Outraged by President Trump’s 2 hr meeting w/Putin, the man who orchestrated attacks on our democracy. Where do his loyalties lie?”

In mid-September 2001, when you implored the Congress and the country to “think through the implications of our actions today, so that this does not spiral out of control,” the words of your speech were beacons of sanity in a propaganda storm for war. But now, as I watch a video of those two transcendent minutes, some of your old words echo in a newly haunting way.

Now it falls to peace advocates who read your new words to urge you to “think through the implications” of the political line you’ve just taken, “so that this does not spiral out of control.” And now, peace advocates must remind you of other insightful words from your historically prescient speech nearly 16 years ago: “Some of us must urge the use of restraint.”

Your declaration on Friday that you are “outraged” by a meeting between the presidents of the world’s two nuclear-weapons superpowers is the opposite of restraint. Likewise, your baiting of Trump with the question “Where do his loyalties lie?” echoes the accusations of treason hurled at you for years. Such rhetoric is far beneath you — and beneath any leader with a responsibility to encourage diplomatic discourse, especially between two nations brandishing huge arsenals of nuclear weapons.[/quote]
Follow link to see the full text, including links to sources.

only_human 2017-07-14 03:19

This sentence is difficult to parse as an article headline:
[URL="http://mynewsla.com/hollywood/2017/07/13/trump-twitter-attack-kudos-for-john-oliver-from-stephen-colbert/"]Trump twitter attack kudos for John Oliver from Stephen Colbert[/URL]
Looking for a verb might not help much.
Quoting the article in spoiler tags:
[SPOILER]Former Comedy Central colleague John Oliver “has become the somewhat proud third inductee into Stephen Colbert’s ‘Trump Attacked Me on Twitter’ Hall of Fame,” HuffPost noted. “On Wednesday, Oliver appeared on Colbert’s ‘Late Show’ and accepted a plaque like the ones Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough received the night before.”[/SPOILER]


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