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Mark Rose 2016-06-13 17:14

[QUOTE=Madpoo;435093]Here's a new list of strategic double checks.

[CODE]exponent Bad Good Unk Sus Solo Mis worktodo
41097391 6 1 3 0 3 0 DoubleCheck=41097391,72,1
41142403 1 0 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41142403,72,1
41241313 6 1 3 0 3 0 DoubleCheck=41241313,72,1
41255129 6 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41255129,73,1
45627863 1 0 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=45627863,72,1
45968987 3 0 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=45968987,74,1
[/CODE][/QUOTE]

I took these as well.

Madpoo 2016-06-18 05:40

Been a little while since putting up a list of strategic double checks...

[CODE]exponent Bad Good Unk Sus Solo Mis worktodo
39839603 5 1 2 1 2 1 DoubleCheck=39839603,71,1
39992243 19 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=39992243,71,1
40123351 10 3 4 0 2 2 DoubleCheck=40123351,72,1
40404289 8 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=40404289,72,1
40413371 38 5 2 0 1 1 DoubleCheck=40413371,72,1
40417361 8 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=40417361,72,1
40473841 5 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=40473841,72,1
40501819 5 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=40501819,72,1
40641659 5 1 2 1 2 1 DoubleCheck=40641659,72,1
40641803 4 1 2 0 1 1 DoubleCheck=40641803,72,1
40907387 3 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=40907387,72,1
41073203 13 3 3 0 2 1 DoubleCheck=41073203,72,1
41147833 13 3 3 0 2 1 DoubleCheck=41147833,72,1
41162717 4 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41162717,72,1
41183999 3 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41183999,72,1
41216213 6 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41216213,72,1
41590819 5 1 2 1 2 1 DoubleCheck=41590819,72,1
41407819 3 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=41407819,72,1
41566073 3 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=41566073,72,1
46520153 3 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=46520153,72,1
67209017 3 0 3 1 3 1 DoubleCheck=67209017,74,1
69432359 3 0 3 1 3 1 DoubleCheck=69432359,75,1
69676049 22 5 8 0 2 6 DoubleCheck=69676049,74,1
69676169 22 5 8 0 2 6 DoubleCheck=69676169,74,1
70448837 3 1 0 3 3 0 DoubleCheck=70448837,75,1
70503361 3 1 0 3 3 0 DoubleCheck=70503361,75,1
70506521 3 0 0 3 3 0 DoubleCheck=70506521,75,1
71444189 11 3 1 5 1 5 DoubleCheck=71444189,75,1
73484093 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73484093,75,1
73511609 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73511609,75,1
73512001 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73512001,75,1
73512041 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73512041,75,1
73546003 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73546003,75,1
73566083 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73566083,75,1
73602083 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73602083,75,1
73605017 11 0 13 0 13 0 DoubleCheck=73605017,75,1
73611509 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73611509,75,1
73612051 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73612051,75,1
73612141 5 1 11 0 11 0 DoubleCheck=73612141,75,1
73613957 11 0 13 0 13 0 DoubleCheck=73613957,75,1
73642903 19 4 8 0 6 2 DoubleCheck=73642903,75,1
73645043 19 4 8 0 6 2 DoubleCheck=73645043,75,1
73645807 19 4 8 0 6 2 DoubleCheck=73645807,75,1
73646803 19 4 8 0 6 2 DoubleCheck=73646803,75,1
73648129 19 4 8 0 6 2 DoubleCheck=73648129,75,1
73648909 19 4 8 0 6 2 DoubleCheck=73648909,75,1
73681061 11 0 13 0 13 0 DoubleCheck=73681061,75,1
73682051 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73682051,75,1
73809503 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73809503,75,1
73809601 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73809601,75,1
73812031 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73812031,75,1
73812899 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73812899,75,1
73914811 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73914811,75,1
73915063 19 2 18 0 18 0 DoubleCheck=73915063,75,1
74132521 3 0 0 3 3 0 DoubleCheck=74132521,75,1
76217353 3 0 3 1 2 2 DoubleCheck=76217353,75,1
76339363 3 0 3 1 2 2 DoubleCheck=76339363,75,1
78131047 24 5 5 0 5 0 DoubleCheck=78131047,75,1
78171409 24 5 5 0 5 0 DoubleCheck=78171409,75,1
78401023 24 5 5 0 5 0 DoubleCheck=78401023,75,1[/CODE]

manfred4 2016-06-18 09:07

Took these

[CODE]exponent Bad Good Unk Sus Solo Mis worktodo
39839603 5 1 2 1 2 1 DoubleCheck=39839603,71,1
39992243 19 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=39992243,71,1
40123351 10 3 4 0 2 2 DoubleCheck=40123351,72,1
40404289 8 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=40404289,72,1
40413371 38 5 2 0 1 1 DoubleCheck=40413371,72,1
40417361 8 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=40417361,72,1
40473841 5 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=40473841,72,1
40501819 5 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=40501819,72,1
40641659 5 1 2 1 2 1 DoubleCheck=40641659,72,1
40641803 4 1 2 0 1 1 DoubleCheck=40641803,72,1
[/CODE]

Prime95 2016-06-18 14:15

and I took these:

[CODE]
40907387 3 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=40907387,72,1
41073203 13 3 3 0 2 1 DoubleCheck=41073203,72,1
41147833 13 3 3 0 2 1 DoubleCheck=41147833,72,1
41162717 4 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41162717,72,1
41183999 3 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41183999,72,1
41216213 6 2 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41216213,72,1
[/code]

Mark Rose 2016-06-18 21:59

[CODE]exponent Bad Good Unk Sus Solo Mis worktodo
41590819 5 1 2 1 2 1 DoubleCheck=41590819,72,1
41407819 3 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=41407819,72,1
41566073 3 1 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=41566073,72,1
46520153 3 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=46520153,72,1
[/CODE]

I took these.

Mark Rose 2016-06-21 03:55

From the previous list, I took:

[CODE]exponent Bad Good Unk Sus Solo Mis worktodo
41241313 6 1 3 0 3 0 DoubleCheck=41241313,72,1
41255129 6 1 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=41255129,73,1
45627863 1 0 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=45627863,72,1
45968987 3 0 1 0 1 0 DoubleCheck=45968987,74,1
47231027 9 3 6 2 4 4 DoubleCheck=47231027,74,1
47368703 3 1 7 0 5 2 DoubleCheck=47368703,74,1
47374993 3 1 7 0 5 2 DoubleCheck=47374993,74,1
47884789 1 0 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=47884789,72,1
48782423 9 3 6 2 4 4 DoubleCheck=48782423,74,1
49554821 9 3 6 2 4 4 DoubleCheck=49554821,74,1
49602347 3 1 7 0 5 2 DoubleCheck=49602347,74,1
50158111 9 3 6 2 4 4 DoubleCheck=50158111,75,1
[/CODE]

Mark Rose 2016-06-26 15:45

As I went picking through the bones of previous lists, I do have one thought: the results marked as "suspect" in the CAT 0 or above should be eliminated. It seems PrimeNet considers them as first-time LL when the exponents are registered.

Madpoo 2016-06-28 02:42

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;436995]As I went picking through the bones of previous lists, I do have one thought: the results marked as "suspect" in the CAT 0 or above should be eliminated. It seems PrimeNet considers them as first-time LL when the exponents are registered.[/QUOTE]

Hmm... I wasn't quite sure what you were asking...

A few "fun facts" about suspect results. As mentioned, so far about half of suspect results turn out to be bad. That ratio may in fact go up as we clear out the backlog of mismatches from double-checked work.

Some stats:
4663 - the # of exponents that have been checked twice (or more) and still no match
1719 - the # of those where neither result was marked suspect
2944 - the # where one of the mismatches is suspect

Let's call that 37% of mismatches were from two "clean" results, and 63% are because the first run was suspect (it's almost always the first run that was suspect, very rarely is the 2nd one suspect, but it does happen from time to time).

Essentially, it would be a VERY safe guess that of the 2944 mismatches where one is suspect, it's the suspect result that's bad. And of course, maybe one time out of 100, both are bad (in my personal experience).

Anyway, the rate of suspect results being bad could actually be higher than half, we just didn't have enough of the unknown stuff sorted out yet. :smile:

Mark Rose 2016-06-28 07:03

[QUOTE=Madpoo;437108]Hmm... I wasn't quite sure what you were asking...
[/QUOTE]

I mean exponents like [url=http://www.mersenne.org/report_exponent/?exp_lo=78037517&full=1]M78037517[/url]. When I got the assignment it came in as LL not DC.

Madpoo 2016-06-29 18:03

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;437113]I mean exponents like [url=http://www.mersenne.org/report_exponent/?exp_lo=78037517&full=1]M78037517[/url]. When I got the assignment it came in as LL not DC.[/QUOTE]

Oh... I see.

Yeah, I guess that's true. Generally speaking, suspect results are usually handed back out again as a first time check pretty quick because they tend to be in ranges where a lot of work is going on. That one, and a few others (242 of them) are suspect, available for assignment still, and only tested that one time so far.

I guess with that said, if we're looking at strategic double-checking, the solo tested suspect results should probably be considered.

There are 63 of them in the LL category 1 section (below 70.6M), and given that a suspect result is traditionally about 50/50 good/bad that may fall into the "let's get 'em done now" category.

In total, 240 of the 242 are all below 80M. The exceptions are M123456811 and M595999993.

kladner 2016-07-03 11:47

[QUOTE=kladner;435514]I'll take this one:
[code]40608851 1 0 2 0 2 0 DoubleCheck=40608851,72,1[/code][/QUOTE]

This finished with a mismatch.


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