mersenneforum.org

mersenneforum.org (https://www.mersenneforum.org/index.php)
-   NFS@Home (https://www.mersenneforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=98)
-   -   Fast Breeding (guru management) (https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=20024)

jyb 2018-11-22 03:13

[B]QUEUED AS 3m2_553[/B]

SNFS-226.16 C186 HCN (3-2,553), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 918461424284638392101688039467235220210617664867236064847945493830537009300126567015837940125563787282591590967730118243323585009858096407856184688456394268148536324468917404783158099993
# 3^553-2^553, difficulty: 226.16, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
skew: 1.000
lss: 0
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -604462909807314587353088
Y0: 49269609804781974438694403402127765867
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3595
40M 2704
60M 2103
80M 2231
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on algebraic side, 20M - 70M.

jyb 2018-11-22 05:09

[B]QUEUED AS 4p3_430[/B]

SNFS-207.1 (quartic) C190 HCN (4+3,430), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 3619772124133366892279337322862029547436081425013212447656664295644326611454565576168946321989232555649320058011780867195615818728070311380920531255601048688628860164654116722465932537730901
# 4^430+3^430, difficulty: 207.11, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -107752636643058178097424660240453423951129
Y0: 5986310706507378352962293074805895248510699696029696
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 90
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 1763
50M 1971
80M 1767
110M 1799
140M 1707
170M 1340
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 90M.

pinhodecarlos 2018-11-22 17:39

Please push 19441_53m1 to 120M. Thank you.

RichD 2018-11-23 12:33

[B]QUEUED AS 28753_53m1[/B]

C232 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3764.
[CODE]n: 7104600312452133302807392068852815521408192471674835389822804385829067279664033476913557105248958212387159614957359119424720313020986869620224384146488469078983239042109973468620225678556043502288309027022574701375982285862551195861
# 28753^53-1, difficulty: 240.77, skewness: 5.53, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.07095e+18, est. time: 1938.55 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.535
c6: 1
c0: -28753
Y1: -1
Y0: 13432241119009277537114478299281741428433
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 10533
60M 8522
100M 7220
150M 5978
200M 5500[/CODE]

RichD 2018-11-26 01:39

[B]QUEUED AS 10006933_31m1[/B]

C192 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2897.
[CODE]n: 732270036069231845190176562405143301229560748904361155142537005589061341446770021842615245549827364145408994039153805801672922532248957020619739323601298409884534750520657265151371650044328797
# 10006933^31-1, difficulty: 217
c6: 10006933
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 100347130998250503623154956119109893
skew: 0.0463
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 85
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 3.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
14M 8628
20M 8347
40M 6859
60M 5165[/CODE]

RichD 2018-11-27 14:38

[B]QUEUED AS 41539_47m1[/B]

C213 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2615.
[CODE]n: 281182422014031417304077622590526271127774169069863696003099176698976476090819259189013222074545070456580642316830979287059593156806667831932431863252339358052101907147880167513461708662246388431546734403374428981
# 41539^47-1, difficulty: 221.69, skewness: 5.88, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 8.83781e+17, est. time: 420.85 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.885
c6: 1
c0: -41539
Y1: -1
Y0: 8864378623850665686258166098929688481
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 85
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 3.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting @ 10M.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 11080
20M 9470
40M 7249
50M 6371[/CODE]

RichD 2018-11-28 03:59

[B]QUEUED AS 5503_61m1[/B]

C203 from the MWRB file with OPN weight 2948.
[CODE]n: 457479990425144799308458708017594921640369695361126704437129488220523481310557782567105899854728352150121219797457073024223402895881540122242787365709502242795461096212605421420013874327379741958376174127687
# 5503^61-1, difficulty: 228.18, skewness: 0.24, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 1.49857e+18, est. time: 713.60 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.238
c6: 5503
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 25468016825622222747131715512243874049
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 14366
50M 10477
80M 8121[/CODE]

swellman 2018-11-28 13:15

[B]QUEUED AS C214_150_59[/B]

C214_150_59 from the XYYXF project is ready for SNFS on 15e using the rational side.
[code]
n: 1217156195308098263434556404357929937258711555617108727342851708144081236799534249082807964417767064285381577802063655459482803968143597530261619240449198773524200153587257185652450167685966319330215703889513976157
# 150^59+59^150, difficulty: 265.63, anorm: 2.45e+037, rnorm: -2.84e+050
# scaled difficulty: 267.80, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.606e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 4.291e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 265
skew: 2.3051
c6: 1
c0: 150
Y1: -186767063731142903704726804589371204839721499
Y0: 5766503906250000000000
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 12552
Q=100M 11049
Q=200M 9654
Q=300M 8723
[/code]
Suggesting a range for Q of 40-270M.

swellman 2018-11-28 13:17

[B]QUEUED AS C217_133_94[/B]

C217_133_94 from the XYYXF project is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 2048866593071824319999172674728645059276694592671043104373502075685687775093521542633561265835341013077440981733866482656840179956366614509688863603326759836968011325584878140098758188812596336239984806179130965922597
# 133^94+94^133, difficulty: 262.43, anorm: 2.58e+039, rnorm: -8.46e+049
# scaled difficulty: 264.18, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.978e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 3.605e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 262
skew: 10.8844
c6: 1
c0: 1662766
Y1: -25633787466375966713243825003006740645543936
Y0: 9585753470490322141591520062265281
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K:
[code]
Q=40M 12141
Q=100M 10557
Q=200M 9047
Q=300M 8126
[/code]
Suggesting a range for Q of 40-280M.

jyb 2018-11-29 08:12

[B]QUEUED AS 9m2_287[/B]

SNFS-234.7 C210 HCN (9-2,287), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 162673344792052591015816767523612230855137712531834983904072671972872589000800671537914166556063048646093237875745475444964636550057606845481181239120065584447305158532281119273688984766438992999715907676661233
# 9^287-2^287, difficulty: 234.74, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
# cost: 2.53376e+18, est. time: 1206.55 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
lss: 0
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -2199023255552
Y0: 1330279464729113309844748891857449678409
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2280
40M 1717
60M 1290
80M 1324
100M 772
120M 993
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on algebraic side, 20M - 120 M.

unconnected 2018-11-29 11:55

[B]QUEUED AS C169_785232_11465 [/B]

C169 from aliquot sequence 785232:11465 is ready for 14e.

[CODE]n: 2298006522247738127865122161163106304272542064532918025838894682940502267438363821847980366085342437098879302196297653349810747150202371557775532577694022733007052420497
skew: 49471945.63
c0: -2352072404055775848927669681230619298075475
c1: 1427413038642811543649022519406828235
c2: 17985335654581322509862496781
c3: -2472624855259298647571
c4: -7676196963962
c5: 185640
Y0: -415466437218948087316919313746406
Y1: 730736931383161783
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs

[/CODE]
Suggested sieving range is 20M-100M. I'll run LA as usual.

swellman 2018-11-29 11:59

[B]QUEUED AS C255_141_76[/B]

C255_141_76 from the XYYXF project is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 187268203600897089261880149245779284711295985239127872851302332880711044703359080325833931157640182089976996562025109105437538863116760671620793890954016006674928703567584250151717462996642493075872573348045061421344176725384373886761548090036683638643631
# 141^76+76^141, difficulty: 266.10, anorm: 2.34e+040, rnorm: -1.73e+050
# scaled difficulty: 267.74, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 9.795e-014, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.171e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 266
skew: 22.6873
c6: 1
c0: 136363779
Y1: -36286294260611296958454793269808377419005952
Y0: 8706597434461286533025514621
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 8553
Q=100M 7774
Q=200M 6557
Q=300M 6023
Q=400M 5139
[/code]
Suggesting a Q range of 40-400M

Last XYYXF number from me for awhile.

RichD 2018-11-29 21:39

[B]QUEUED AS 29017_53m1[/B]

C233 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3685. (14e)
[CODE]n: 11427348520108544809910356841064380080815832231892126657657510868795199711239420149410108785794450893955945601609939618041506115611052043542404253112058439935301401649223288067503020263371015286311001226709408798344074405123553042021
# 29017^53-1, difficulty: 240.98, skewness: 5.54, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.13966e+18, est. time: 1971.27 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.543
c6: 1
c0: -29017
Y1: -1
Y0: 14583863390459956480696468485099027977497
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 13414
60M 10780
100M 9410
150M 7429[/CODE]

RichD 2018-11-30 15:07

[B]QUEUED AS 11159_53m1[/B]

C203 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2348.
[CODE]n: 46912933863853766408289871109086437817915489668298625744879078446091891095477907274489336817311383935830074717226432330745439088798566080014121092622129488989787397449761632323637439655930883853938583027
# 11159^53-1, difficulty: 218.57, skewness: 4.73, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 6.83733e+17, est. time: 325.59 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 4.727
c6: 1
c0: -11159
Y1: -1
Y0: 2683042167545727967602226095217962839
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 15768
60M 10311
100M 8860
140M 7263[/CODE]

RichD 2018-12-01 01:49

[B]QUEUED AS 101285731_31m1[/B]

C241 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 10048. (14e)
[CODE]n: 1467060450459463514932355369481826417207731840628681463359997441435934200827712407012916958682016059617174048802391080154052278841302232743771034307685570413200159926705455980358497509723480671968916658774490400012579364381656029058008964981
# 101285731^31-1^31, difficulty: 248.17, skewness: 0.05, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.21996e+18, est. time: 3438.08 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.046
c6: 101285731
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 10659610456666128869074362760089429277651
skew: 0.0463
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
40M 12843
70M 10966
100M 10703
200M 8461
300M 7406[/CODE]

RichD 2018-12-02 02:51

[B]QUEUED AS 11001181_31m1 - note there are two skews given, I kept skew=0.067 and deleted the other.[/B]

C199 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 1908.
[ a.k.a. Phi_31(Phi_3(15199)/3/7)/11542783720513 ]
[CODE]n: 1516592080848922068433490226399280698579757782291453795277474242767701238442830967650685334915175836768366508023925889957339692983734130999775200449904890390092930779198597658746304247179819000991787
# 11001181^31-1, difficulty: 218.28, skewness: 0.07, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 6.6767e+17, est. time: 317.94 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.067
c6: 11001181
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 161137473671262144413611059744849901
skew: 0.0463
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 9530
60M 6259
100M 5469
120M 4902[/CODE]

RichD 2018-12-02 02:54

[B]QUEUED AS 129574807_29m1[/B]

C201 from the OPN t600 file. (14e)
[ a.k.a. Phi_29(Phi_3(Phi_17(19))/67/87403/1311127/10050613)/4421689/1115142221/50862309287 ]
[CODE]n: 563977079661195061041164052030019143820283413669059040783848385967980943756208195811201970963564168536352713028926414201853037771444012171440544067028903938899833639841895943987468593946931315963587867
# 129574807^29-1, difficulty: 243.38, skewness: 22.50, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.98691e+18, est. time: 2374.72 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 22.495
c6: 1
c0: -129574807
Y1: -1
Y0: 36526062102755025053061620388064612690807
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 94
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 40M.
[CODE] Q Yield
40M 9555
70M 7898
100M 7792
200M 6198
300M 5493
400M 4683
450M 4460[/CODE]

jyb 2018-12-02 10:43

[B]QUEUED AS 11p8_260[/B]

SNFS-216.6 (quartic) C201 HCN (11+8,260), ECM to t53+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 113183001265669487475255520338257166874468286179181323114696990417450050918318999554961690648666938023573212802089652554002174946598286840924446509148181375826040272625150396619912183595359466390647041
# 11^260+8^260, difficulty: 216.61, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -91343852333181432387730302044767688728495783936
Y0: 1420429319844313329730664601483335671261683881745483121
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 93
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
30M 6376
60M 7708
90M 8978
120M 9186
150M 8930
180M 8340
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 30M - 180 M.

jyb 2018-12-02 11:34

[B]QUEUED AS 5p4_380[/B]

SNFS-212.5 (quartic) C172 HCN (5+4,380), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 2591024185909647481094563266524071295779008150038925230908438654287946541863323441006451679519251032589400211579771183196503863387369905642209299216079993215264298118719281
# 5^380+4^380, difficulty: 212.49, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -5708990770823839524233143877797980545530986496
Y0: 132348898008484427979425390731194056570529937744140625
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 90
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 4380
40M 5457
60M 5730
80M 5577
100M 5734
120M 5471
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 130 M.

RichD 2018-12-02 21:00

[B]QUEUED AS 41341_47-m1[/B]

C213 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2680.
[CODE]n: 225702034902850204833653390172726130254540691789021534834821320662027971601187685312882246323709564830617068237891280060269430751777445210549777038563674222109614066420977458084694592005554810667780862046666542587
# 41341^47-1, difficulty: 221.59, skewness: 5.88, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 8.76585e+17, est. time: 417.42 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.880
c6: 1
c0: -41341
Y1: -1
Y0: 8531940552007899835292407881523631521
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 85
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 3.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 10M.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 9042
20M 7651
40M 5725
54M 4858[/CODE]

debrouxl 2018-12-02 21:15

I reserved 7 near-repdigit numbers for NFS@Home nearly three months ago. 3 of them need more ECM work (all the way to t55, unless the rule of thumb changed recently) before they can be queued, and [b]I need help for that[/b] :smile:

I'm saving the optimized polynomials here.
The near-repdigit site suggests 30-bit LPs even for the SNFS difficulty 247 number, but in such conditions, the yield is usually horrible. Also, I raised alim and rlim a bit.
[url]http://stdkmd.com/nrr/c.cgi?q=99299_121[/url]
[code]n: 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999929999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
m: 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000
c6: 1000
c3: -70
c0: -1
skew: 0.32
type: snfs
lss: 1
rlim: 90000000
alim: 90000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/code]

[url]http://stdkmd.com/nrr/c.cgi?q=50009_245[/url]
[code]n: 500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009
m: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000
c6: 1
c0: 18
skew: 1.62
type: snfs
lss: 1
rlim: 100000000
alim: 100000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/code]

[url]http://stdkmd.com/nrr/c.cgi?q=33833_123[/url]
[code]n: 3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333338333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
m: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000
c6: 10
c3: 15
c0: -1
skew: 0.68
type: snfs
lss: 1
rlim: 110000000
alim: 110000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/code]

TIA for ECM help.

jyb 2018-12-03 19:04

[B]QUEUED AS 3p2_1374M[/B]

SNFS-218.5 (quartic) C188 HCN (3+2,1374M), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 44839735358598707252555531236585887831019607286396777904986801265663864886296103132384389353081153430783934990117572443894329881796932464882694369089685995379947826196672194425429020268997
skew: 0.816497
c4: 9
c3: 18
c2: 18
c1: 12
c0: 4
Y1: 20769187434139310514121985316880384
Y0: -2465034704958067503996131453373943813074726512397600969
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 93
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 4090
50M 5538
80M 6073
110M 7209
140M 6911
170M 6473
200M 6621
230M 6433
260M 6594
290M 6169
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 230 M.

jyb 2018-12-03 20:07

[B]QUEUED AS 4p3_1335L[/B]

SNFS-215.3 (quartic) C212 HCN (4+3,1335L), ECM to t53+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 10110471054624263744298477150495890751876887751529853388817912033982748413220375615223258918634834277968392410128847904114994333054350887180113628603687056565522506480241477023217612203129061197019200448884300491
skew: 1.1547
c4: 9
c3: -18
c2: -24
c1: 48
c0: -16
Y1: 914315497002209299178520575663757708506859307008
Y0: -383123885219381535778949327596207761731177022992581027
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 90
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3380
50M 4353
80M 4410
110M 4662
140M 4003
170M 3896
200M 3907
230M 3772
260M 3929
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 180M.

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-03 21:25

Are you sure about the lpbr and lpba size?

jyb 2018-12-03 21:30

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;501617]Are you sure about the lpbr and lpba size?[/QUOTE]

I'm sure those were the values I was using when I collected the numbers I show during test sieving.

Why do you ask?

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-03 21:53

I’m just confused about your chosen sieve range and lpb sizes.

PS(nevermind , I didn’t look at the trial sieve values)

VBCurtis 2018-12-03 22:50

Time for my periodic reminder that choosing LP bounds that cause average yield below 1.0 is distinctly suboptimal. It is a fallacy that matrices from such jobs are easier and smaller than the same job with 1 higher LP bound; matrix size scales pretty steadily with input difficulty, and not very much at all with LP choice provided LP is 32 or lower.

Q-ranges of 100M or greater should use 31LP, as using 30LP would mean a yield around 1.0-1.2.
Q-ranges of 180M or greater should use 32LP, as using 31LP would mean a yield around 1.2-1.4.
Q-ranges of 320M or greater should likely use 33LP, or 15e with a much smaller Q-range.

An example of the last situation: I test-sieved 13*2^870-1 and found I'd need Q of 20-330M on 14e, but just 20-133M on 15e. I cut alim and rlim in half for the 15e tests.

The only reason I know of to stick to smaller LP choices is to save disk space on the server; I've been submitting jobs that are faster at 33LP as 32 or 32-33 hybrid to save 200M relations' worth of disk space.

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-04 08:18

Thank you Curtis for your last message.
Hope next year I can afford a new machine so I can do the 31-32 bit jobs.

chris2be8 2018-12-04 16:54

[QUOTE=jyb;501601][B]QUEUED AS 3p2_1374M[/B]

SNFS-218.5 (quartic) C188 HCN (3+2,1374M), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 44839735358598707252555531236585887831019607286396777904986801265663864886296103132384389353081153430783934990117572443894329881796932464882694369089685995379947826196672194425429020268997
skew: 0.816497
c4: 9
c3: 18
c2: 18
c1: 12
c0: 4
Y1: 20769187434139310514121985316880384
Y0: -2465034704958067503996131453373943813074726512397600969
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
[B]mfbr: 93[/B]
mfba: 62
[B]rlambda: 2.6[/B]
alambda: 2.6
[/code]Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 4090
50M 5538
80M 6073
110M 7209
140M 6911
170M 6473
200M 6621
230M 6433
260M 6594
290M 6169
[/code]Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 230 M.[/QUOTE]

Are the highlighted values correct? You normally want rlambda 3.6 or similar when using 3 large primes.

The same question applies to the next job (4p3_1335L).

Chris

jyb 2018-12-04 17:33

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;501622]Time for my periodic reminder that choosing LP bounds that cause average yield below 1.0 is distinctly suboptimal. It is a fallacy that matrices from such jobs are easier and smaller than the same job with 1 higher LP bound; matrix size scales pretty steadily with input difficulty, and not very much at all with LP choice provided LP is 32 or lower.

Q-ranges of 100M or greater should use 31LP, as using 30LP would mean a yield around 1.0-1.2.
Q-ranges of 180M or greater should use 32LP, as using 31LP would mean a yield around 1.2-1.4.
Q-ranges of 320M or greater should likely use 33LP, or 15e with a much smaller Q-range.

An example of the last situation: I test-sieved 13*2^870-1 and found I'd need Q of 20-330M on 14e, but just 20-133M on 15e. I cut alim and rlim in half for the 15e tests.

The only reason I know of to stick to smaller LP choices is to save disk space on the server; I've been submitting jobs that are faster at 33LP as 32 or 32-33 hybrid to save 200M relations' worth of disk space.[/QUOTE]

Thanks! I want to explore this more, but without cluttering up this thread. So I created a new thread for it. Please see my post [URL="https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=23865"]there[/URL].

jyb 2018-12-04 17:37

[QUOTE=chris2be8;501668]Are the highlighted values correct? [COLOR="Red"]You normally want rlambda 3.6 or similar when using 3 large primes.[/COLOR]

The same question applies to the next job (4p3_1335L).

Chris[/QUOTE]

My goodness, my last few proposals for the grid have generated quite some attention (in a bad way)! In my ignorance I may have made another mistake here. But in response to your highlighted claim above, my question is: why?

Let's have follow-ups on the [URL="https://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=23865"]new thread[/URL].

jyb 2018-12-05 05:19

[B]QUEUED AS 7p6_320[/B]

Let's see how this one goes over.:smile:

SNFS-216.3 (quartic) C175 HCN (7+6,320), ECM to t53+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 2096668945124846104936524469293743083652163786726518117628633594683453465704882596336036173313716942495865167087580490389725536338435858785677170181687349875728795502959918721
# 7^320+6^320, difficulty: 216.35, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -63340286662973277706162286946811886609896461828096
Y0: 1219760487635835700138573862562971820755615294131238401
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 90
mfba: 62
rlambda: 3.0
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 5264
50M 7540
80M 8117
110M 9765
140M 8960
170M 8848
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 170M.

VBCurtis 2018-12-05 05:27

Change that rlambda to 3.6 rather than 3.0!

Or maybe I don't understand lambda at all.... I've usually used 2.x for 2LP, 3.x for 3LP, where x is 6 or 7. Sometimes I test-sieve x=6 vs x=7, results haven't told me much. I think if you test-sieved with 3.0, you were actually test-sieving 2 large primes rather than 3?

jyb 2018-12-05 06:07

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;501720]Change that rlambda to 3.6 rather than 3.0!

Or maybe I don't understand lambda at all.... I've usually used 2.x for 2LP, 3.x for 3LP, where x is 6 or 7. Sometimes I test-sieve x=6 vs x=7, results haven't told me much. I think if you test-sieved with 3.0, you were actually test-sieving 2 large primes rather than 3?[/QUOTE]

What? Here's what you said in the other thread:

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;501683]Now, I thought lambda was supposed to be the ratio of MFB to LPB, but if it was then 2.0 or 2.1 should always be best (or 3.0 or 3.1 for 3LP)
[/QUOTE]

And yes, I know you later say that it should be "3.7 or 3.8 or maybe 3.9" for 3LP, but it doesn't seem like you can give a reason why. And while I am sometimes willing to do things simply because they are considered best practices, nobody seems to have any actual understanding of what the best practice is here and why. So while I certainly don't know better than you here, I'm not terribly inclined to make this change without some further explanation.

Edit: And by the way, saying "I don't really understand why, but this will speed up sieving by 10%" would be a perfectly fine explanation for these purposes. But I haven't heard anything to that effect, or heard tell of any evidence that something like that should be the case.

axn 2018-12-05 07:29

[QUOTE=jyb;501725]Edit: And by the way, saying "I don't really understand why, but this will speed up sieving by 10%" would be a perfectly fine explanation for these purposes. But I haven't heard anything to that effect, or heard tell of any evidence that something like that should be the case.[/QUOTE]
Well then, here would be an opportunity to do a controlled scientific experiment. Use the suggested value and do trial sieving on the same regions. Voila! You now have data.

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-05 09:52

I don’t thing we should care about the sieve speed since it is done by others. What we should concentrate is achieving smaller matrix. The former we can’t quantify when we are using the NFS grid (generally speaking).

VBCurtis 2018-12-05 16:45

[QUOTE=jyb;501725]What? Here's what you said in the other thread:



And yes, I know you later say that it should be "3.7 or 3.8 or maybe 3.9" for 3LP, but it doesn't seem like you can give a reason why. And while I am sometimes willing to do things simply because they are considered best practices, nobody seems to have any actual understanding of what the best practice is here and why. So while I certainly don't know better than you here, I'm not terribly inclined to make this change without some further explanation.

Edit: And by the way, saying "I don't really understand why, but this will speed up sieving by 10%" would be a perfectly fine explanation for these purposes. But I haven't heard anything to that effect, or heard tell of any evidence that something like that should be the case.[/QUOTE]
Sorry for being unclear. My comments about 2.0 and 3.0 were meant as evidence that my first explanation of lambda couldn't be correct, because both standard practice and test-sieving shows that 2.5 or 2.6 is always better than 2.0 or 2.1; the idea I tried and failed to convey is that using 3LP means adding 1 to that side's lambda. If you accept that 2.6 works for normal 2LP jobs, please accept that 3.6 is what works for 3LP jobs.

Or, as axn says, test-sieve a bunch of lambdas and let us know what you think. But be warned that test-sieves will show different effects at different Q values; it's messy, or else we'd have a clear best choice already.

jyb 2018-12-05 23:10

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;501754]Or, as axn says, test-sieve a bunch of lambdas and let us know what you think. But be warned that test-sieves will show different effects at different Q values; it's messy, or else we'd have a clear best choice already.[/QUOTE]

Okay, well here's some data for the last number I posted (HCN 7+6,320):
[code]
2.6 3.0 3.6
--- --- ---
Q Yield sec/rel Yield sec/rel Yield sec/rel
--- ----- ------- ----- ------- ----- -------
20M 5235 0.20297 5264 0.20422 11022 0.13363
50M 7521 0.15008 7540 0.15242 12750 0.14660
80M 8104 0.14465 8117 0.14794 12003 0.15987
110M 9760 0.14617 9765 0.15100 13317 0.17087
140M 8957 0.15357 8960 0.15806 11798 0.18048
170M 8842 0.15327 8848 0.15776 11572 0.18024
200M 8993 0.15947 8998 0.16470 11802 0.18607
230M 8577 0.16492 8585 0.16982 11204 0.19071
[/code]

As you can see, a lambda of 3.0 isn't appreciably different from 2.6. But moving it to 3.6 changes things substantially. And as you said, the effects are quite different for different Q values. Across the whole range, yields are quite a bit higher, but completing a given range is quite a bit slower. And for purposes of assessing total speed of sieving, these two effects run counter to each other. At lower Q values, the speed is greater (very much so for Q around 20M), while at higher Q values it's worse than using a lambda of 2.6 or 3.0.

For determining which is the better choice for this particular number, I note that the higher yield with lambda=3.6 means having to sieve a smaller range (probably just up to about 120M), so we'd spend more of the time in the Q ranges where that higher lambda gives us better speed. Still, total sieving time probably ends up being fairly close, regardless of which value we choose.

However, when thinking about this in terms of NFS@Home, the practical effect of using the higher lambda is that the smaller range means fewer work units get generated, and each one takes longer to complete. That cuts down on the parallelism that we get from having thousands of cores doing the sieving. So the higher lambda may slow down the completion of sieving this number. More generally, if other numbers have the same characteristics, then we get individual numbers potentially taking longer, but only because they are handed out to fewer cores. I.e. it increases the latency, but it should not affect the throughput of the grid as a whole.

On the other hand, I don't know what effect the higher lambda has on eventual matrix size. My intuition is that the smaller range of sp-Q means a smaller matrix, but I don't have enough experience to trust my intuition on this point, so someone please weigh in. But if that's true, then I would argue it's a tradeoff worth making. I.e. increasing the latency of each number, but also decreasing post-processing time seems like a fine tradeoff, and all the more so if it doesn't hurt throughput.

Any more knowledgeable thoughts and opinions are welcome. (Less knowledgeable ones are also welcome, but being more knowledgeable than myself is a low bar.)

VBCurtis 2018-12-06 03:30

The similarity in yields between 2.6 and 3.0 tells you that 3.0 isn't actually using 3 large primes. The yield from 3.6 looks like the usual result of 3LP: much higher yield, and sec/rel that increases quite a lot more with Q than it does with 2LP. I'm quite interested to compare 3.6 to 3.7 to either.3.5 or 3.8; perhaps I'll do so next time I test-sieve for 15e queue.

I did a bit of comparing jobs in my 13*2^n-1 factoring personal project, running some with 3LP and other similar-difficulty jobs with 2LP. It seemed that 3LP produces matrices slightly larger than 2LP, such that I wanted to see a clear win in sec/rel for 3LP in order to use it. I didn't see that clear win until roughly SNFS-250+; on GNFS jobs I haven't done enough work to have a good estimate (I would guess 183 or 185 for 15e queue, but it's lower for CADO).

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-06 21:29

59999_216 Needs its sieve upper boundary raised by 15-20M.

jyb 2018-12-07 04:24

[B]QUEUED AS 4p3_445[/B]

SNFS-214.3 (quartic) C170 HCN (4+3,445), ECM to t53+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 56762202779198031324149362229206360783071902215738462242361981308944956677664820201689887498819757592579638106202107993072829500335001135923337125601798258607407132719981
# 4^445+3^445, difficulty: 214.33, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -2909321189362570808630465826492242446680483
Y0: 383123885216472214589586756787577295904684780545900544
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 6446
50M 9168
80M 9801
110M 11534
140M 10849
170M 10386
200M 10511
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 150M.

jyb 2018-12-08 05:37

[B]QUEUED AS 3m2_575[/B]

SNFS-219.5 (quartic) C179 HCN (3-2,575), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 25937720731707886917929720519505136746571172607323113360630998764400873985091931948840691828554767040626838855185461368087763740650541795343670441758207306840627095008652329080201
# 3^575-2^575, difficulty: 219.48, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -41538374868278621028243970633760768
Y0: 7395104114874202511988394360121831439224179537192802907
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 4000
50M 5659
80M 6231
110M 7544
140M 6702
170M 6565
200M 6861
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 210M.

If you note the relatively low yield and it makes you uncomfortable, ask me for more details of trial sieving. These parameters look to be substantially faster than any of the knob settings I tried for 32 bits.

VBCurtis 2018-12-08 06:19

[QUOTE=jyb;502050]
If you note the relatively low yield and it makes you uncomfortable, ask me for more details of trial sieving. These parameters look to be substantially faster than any of the knob settings I tried for 32 bits.[/QUOTE]

Sir, our last discussion demonstrated to me that you're quite thorough with trial sieving, and are considering as alternatives my concept of "normal". I trust your tests and your judgement.

Your results also tell me I need to test smaller LP bounds on my own submissions; for that, I am grateful.

axn 2018-12-08 08:29

[QUOTE=jyb;502050]SNFS-219.5 (quartic) C179 HCN (3-2,575), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[/QUOTE]

Since this is a quartic, and the yields are so low (1.4 / q), this suggests that this should be handled by 15e. However, if 14e can get the job done and "The Grid(TM)" demands that 14e be fed, so be it.

jyb 2018-12-09 05:34

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;502051][COLOR="Red"]Sir[/COLOR] :surprised:, our last discussion demonstrated to me that you're quite thorough with trial sieving, and are considering as alternatives my concept of "normal". I trust your tests and your judgement.

Your results also tell me I need to test smaller LP bounds on my own submissions; for that, I am grateful.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps. I appreciate the vote of confidence, though I'm not entirely so confident myself.

In particular, there may be limits to the predictive value of trial sieving on small ranges. One point on which I know I'm ill-informed is just what kind of effect using more large primes actually has. I vaguely recall getting the impression that a lot of the advantage of large primes doesn't show up until late in the sieving, when there are already a lot of relations gathered. If that's true, then an important effect of large primes is not captured by doing trial sieving, and I have heard no good guidelines on how to estimate that effect.

So while I may choose the set of parameters that suggests the best times during trial sieving, it's still possible that your more "normal" parameters would still lead to a better outcome overall. Any additional education you (or anyone else here) can give me on this point would be welcome.

jyb 2018-12-09 05:39

[QUOTE=axn;502054]Since this is a quartic, and the yields are so low (1.4 / q), this suggests that this should be handled by 15e. However, if 14e can get the job done and "The Grid(TM)" demands that 14e be fed, so be it.[/QUOTE]

Ah, well now this is an interesting point. The last time I messed around with quartics, a couple of years ago, I recall noting that an SNFS difficulty of 225 was the point at which it seemed better to use the 15e siever. However, I know I wasn't exhaustive in my investigation, so it's possible that the crossover point could really be a bit lower.

But in any case, you raise a good issue. I should really add 15e to the mix and see what happens. Of course, trial sieving aside, the lag time before we actually know how well the parameters have been chosen is much greater for 15e because that queue is well-filled, unlike 14e, which is always begging for new candidates.

jyb 2018-12-10 06:03

[B]QUEUED AS 5m4_775M[/B]

SNFS-216.7 (quartic) C198 HCN (5-4,775M), ECM to t53+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 453062901311293760348068354191848950392011558760260537029420469905603330314318999280703940136577954077974134417119697410057865928213719081382707484149074079611650566663498545608756927899481187651901
skew: 0.894427
c4: 25
c3: 50
c2: 60
c1: 40
c0: 16
Y1: 22835963083295358096932575511191922182123945984
Y0: -661744490042422139897126953655970282852649688720703125
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 5005
50M 6854
80M 7326
110M 8987
140M 8169
170M 7796
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 180M.

RichD 2018-12-11 09:42

[B]QUEUED AS 42193_47m1[/B]

C213 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2397.
[CODE]n: 576858042042813723654637720494699940777695104411346136857924505444821206693919199429735399549788946557804633711436461893605101224979835538083138416382933556253735553960054754313300366815260828435466468997786562943
# 42193^47-1, difficulty: 222.01, skewness: 5.90, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 9.07707e+17, est. time: 432.24 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.900
c6: 1
c0: -42193
Y1: -1
Y0: 10044382551317562967883536101226128001
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 85
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 3.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 12M (and going probably past 50M).
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 9323
20M 8349
40M 6331
50M 5424[/CODE]

jyb 2018-12-12 17:02

[B]QUEUED AS 11p10_250[/B]

SNFS-208.3 (quartic) C173 HCN (11+10,250), ECM to t52. For 14e.
[code]
n: 76965382473357372684853525311858503935913033608760594172002220753985161330337202245983931267047385601805026533264935155002109276405375391765951838623828375010727197135314001
# 11^250+10^250, difficulty: 208.28, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Y0: 11739085287969531650666649599035831993898213898723001
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3902
50M 4784
80M 4607
110M 5291
140M 4166
170M 3951
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 100M.

jyb 2018-12-12 19:22

[B]QUEUED AS 11p10_265[/B]

SNFS-220.8 (quartic) C176 HCN (11+10,265), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 23103939391846113325245647260809788199043062332039695580473634964698338246060263020133858728442468888533079769279878445816968573098304551070421807705354163056133454352925129951
# 11^265+10^265, difficulty: 220.78, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Y0: 15624722518287446627037310616316692383878522699200314331
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3442
50M 5245
80M 5676
110M 6674
140M 6107
170M 6162
200M 6219
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 30M - 220M.

jyb 2018-12-12 20:18

[B]QUEUED AS 5m3_395[/B]

SNFS-220.8 (quartic) C177 HCN (5-3,395), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 938779045246126408055896278433393654541656878735362275347346959847739836276780413531796313023981950787026785304774729493203343652829194568811317025521327376375560165417574949281
# 5^395-3^395, difficulty: 220.87, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -49269609804781974438694403402127765867
Y0: 16543612251060553497428173841399257071316242218017578125
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
30M 4322
60M 5177
90M 6029
120M 6690
150M 6180
180M 5912
210M 5866
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 30M - 230M.

jyb 2018-12-13 18:53

[B]QUEUED AS 7p2_325[/B]

SNFS-219.7 (quartic) C174 HCN (7+2,325), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 116926894224530093843501142872853724776505186581784476069613780604454521940225516291305684163583123377562199822721464837210201851105665563727650806739495317371590425926365551
# 7^325+2^325, difficulty: 219.73, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -36893488147419103232
Y0: 8538323413450849900970017037940802745289307058918668807
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
30M 2740
60M 3556
90M 3834
120M 3925
150M 4015
180M 3623
210M 4015
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 30M - 220M.

jyb 2018-12-13 20:03

[B]QUEUED AS 11p4_250[/B]

SNFS-208.3 (quartic) C165 HCN (11+4,250), ECM to t51+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 181424072724414176016617644184794708699021005484689938369147113040038770552314211159457636075361568144093259935911018058491201462929416245217930879750985126318295501
# 11^250+4^250, difficulty: 208.28, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -1267650600228229401496703205376
Y0: 11739085287969531650666649599035831993898213898723001
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3949
50M 4673
80M 4594
110M 5136
140M 4268
170M 3909
200M 4122
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 100M.

RichD 2018-12-15 10:07

[B]QUEUED AS 28789_53m1[/B]

C232 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3756.
[CODE]n: 7582234824439683361820047583012142289272968083046983427568761875409348140058849543723550557333743139366092416630875620441328022977708609327328322068811223069764081768254930800909364046089402342824246263634703973068141454586378008061
# 28789^53-1, difficulty: 240.80, skewness: 5.54, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.08029e+18, est. time: 1943.00 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.536
c6: 1
c0: -28789
Y1: -1
Y0: 13584361096661703977026170329725879367509
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 13082
60M 10346
100M 8946
150M 7162[/CODE]

debrouxl 2018-12-15 15:43

yoyo@home clients have nearly finished raising ECM work for 99299_121, 50009_245 and 33833_123 to t55, so I'll be able to add them to the 14e queue soon...ish.
Thanks for the ECM help :smile:

RichD 2018-12-16 02:06

[B]QUEUED AS 42281_47m1[/B]

C213 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2362.
[CODE]n: 634880209147089565343748194070037522920596554443150877853240058830966774076829755935107862149016802928510462704840365118328989647475984898058168529764678230591770371997604888066724852758118772362940329118024480727
# 42281^47-1, difficulty: 222.05, skewness: 5.90, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 9.10945e+17, est. time: 433.78 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.902
c6: 1
c0: -42281
Y1: -1
Y0: 10213203914925755615475403324344805441
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 85
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 3.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 14M.
[CODE] Q Yield
14M 9585
20M 9215
40M 6724
50M 6073[/CODE]

jyb 2018-12-17 00:01

[B]QUEUED AS 9p2_287[/B]

SNFS-234.7 C161 HCN (9+2,287), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 10460853523994320277367259954409210341704126322186080547957999054344492047975203320283038397999320940387896790140961266445885122396940645718126281533939789059569
# 9^287+2^287, difficulty: 234.74, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: -1
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -2199023255552
Y0: 1330279464729113309844748891857449678409
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 5250
50M 3922
80M 3227
110M 3440
140M 2641
170M 2362
200M 2431
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 120M.

jyb 2018-12-17 05:25

[QUOTE=jyb;503068][B]QUEUED AS 9p2_287[/B]

SNFS-234.7 C161 HCN (9+2,287), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[/QUOTE]

It doesn't look like any work units are being generated for this job. I don't see anything obviously wrong with the .poly file data above. Does anybody know what's going wrong here?

VBCurtis 2018-12-17 06:22

No work units are being generated for any job; see the 15e queue. You may not be able to tell by looking at 14e.

Looks like the server needs a kick.

swellman 2018-12-17 14:53

[B]QUEUED AS C234_131_110[/B]

C234_131_110 is ready for sieving on 15e

[code]
n: 449462774728734482684457814113257964670549121640593035618141067049484439224089240370074927410360894413030768797881725289945954083142172840929467846866489042369722588261076714318864021949145201814195253937712541569790484332576791305153
# 131^110+110^131, difficulty: 269.46, anorm: 2.75e+039, rnorm: 2.44e+050
# scaled difficulty: 271.29, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.474e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.883e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 269
skew: 11.1170
c6: 1
c0: 1887710
Y1: -129087241933376588180389974363760340041
Y0: 814027493868397611133210000000000000000000000
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K

[code]
Q=40M 10141
Q=100M 9099
Q=200M 7714
Q=300M 6922
Q=400M 6093
[/code]

Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 40-325M.

swellman 2018-12-17 14:54

[B]QUEUED AS C235_131_107[/B]

C235_131_107 is ready for SNFS on 15e.

[code]
n: 6741707336306520947962502014709317433185952089024382366369668020180217786575099641576585215928321913654282153547388105214330325216230218193107478653769279453307999076002931090735873518128904708730874126322301547529598642885467433876447
# 131^107+107^131, difficulty: 269.91, anorm: 2.37e+038, rnorm: -4.51e+050
# scaled difficulty: 271.95, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.518e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.914e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 269
skew: 1.0343
c6: 107
c0: 131
Y1: -443040174110042643239751500532541979250113449
Y0: 129087241933376588180389974363760340041
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 96
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.3
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K

[code]
Q=40M 10340 on 5k
Q=100M 9481
Q=200M 8492
Q=300M 7403
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 40-300M.

jyb 2018-12-18 00:15

[B]QUEUED AS 10m9_275[/B]

SNFS-220.0 (quartic) C180 HCN (10-9,275), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 253503679164908118285448200178547787126122267934210139888273771921805390139956921250115202581346263965546741445151645833274056642233225339258274056075419857032009325645179962414351
# 10^275-9^275, difficulty: 220.00, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -30432527221704537086371993251530170531786747066637049
Y0: 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
30M 2507
60M 3571
90M 3974
120M 3739
150M 3926
180M 3588
210M 3822
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 30M - 220M.

jyb 2018-12-18 05:16

[B]QUEUED AS 5p2_395[/B]

SNFS-220.9 (quartic) C182 HCN (5+2,395), ECM to t54+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 19197907695332090976583151923807396242329346572304038928362262140073588585456320681790952235373786169850148377844043227123481336204374315736340916681459614381905529838977783929872001
# 5^395+2^395, difficulty: 220.87, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -604462909807314587353088
Y0: 16543612251060553497428173841399257071316242218017578125
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
30M 2557
60M 3235
90M 3690
120M 3713
150M 3688
180M 3272
210M 3607
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 30M - 230M.

unconnected 2018-12-18 11:24

[B]QUEUED AS C167_11040_10108[/B]

C167 from aliquot sequence 11040:i10108 is ready for 14e.


[CODE]n: 12801796155098612340126191545315175594546482762883421838889737712242686464514705888195730087203618296804107706960736611880000981101360599857798231284100384368362232743
skew: 24165822.65
c0: -25562464379596681016303941415180482981293
c1: 11381898733915366889521347576443385
c2: -1357542195159265941823732921
c3: -312914821735919476417
c4: 3146937703854
c5: 52272
Y0: -189583421129937749907296854926760
Y1: 73273494705341749
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs[/CODE]


Suggested sieve range 20M-120M. I'll take LA.

swellman 2018-12-18 11:53

[QUOTE=unconnected;503207]C167 from aliquot sequence 11040:i10108 is ready for 14e.


[CODE]n: 12801796155098612340126191545315175594546482762883421838889737712242686464514705888195730087203618296804107706960736611880000981101360599857798231284100384368362232743
skew: 24165822.65
c0: -25562464379596681016303941415180482981293
c1: 11381898733915366889521347576443385
c2: -1357542195159265941823732921
c3: -312914821735919476417
c4: 3146937703854
c5: 52272
Y0: -189583421129937749907296854926760
Y1: 73273494705341749
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs[/CODE]


Suggested sieve range 20M-120M. I'll take LA.[/QUOTE]

I’ve queued it (but not yet sieving) assuming sieving on the algebraic side. Correct?

unconnected 2018-12-18 12:24

[QUOTE=swellman;503210]I’ve queued it (but not yet sieving) assuming sieving on the algebraic side. Correct?[/QUOTE]


There is a 'type: gnfs' line in the poly, isn't this not enough to sieve on algebraic side?

swellman 2018-12-18 12:34

[QUOTE=unconnected;503213]There is a 'type: gnfs' line in the poly, isn't this not enough to sieve on algebraic side?[/QUOTE]

I’m not certain. The command line “lss: 0” definitely forces sieving on the algebraic side.

unconnected 2018-12-18 13:18

Ok, no problem, next time I'll use 'lss: 0' for gnfs tasks. Thanks for explanation.

jyb 2018-12-19 04:06

[B]QUEUED AS 11p7_250[/B]

SNFS-208.3 (quartic) C181 HCN (11+7,250), ECM to t51+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 1100596059614920779524015709219318789799476738940388072866233156033882024406853110604439290440715649504932288102799862302104002884601993259346563890939513138028192260780498944595501
# 11^250+7^250, difficulty: 208.28, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -1798465042647412146620280340569649349251249
Y0: 11739085287969531650666649599035831993898213898723001
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3927
40M 4883
60M 5256
80M 4495
100M 5135
120M 4516
140M 4324
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 100M.

jyb 2018-12-19 05:15

[B]QUEUED AS 11p9_250[/B]

SNFS-208.3 (quartic) C188 HCN (11+9,250), ECM to t51+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 36494540434164974111058558185678129923277432566783788401728119015036675947866835897395687119544674358683033666621976710660145517175342508124090147044946504709535772085878669590985906681501
# 11^250+9^250, difficulty: 208.28, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -515377520732011331036461129765621272702107522001
Y0: 11739085287969531650666649599035831993898213898723001
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3822
40M 4990
60M 5069
80M 4563
100M 4967
120M 4540
140M 4193
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 100M.

RichD 2018-12-19 11:48

[B]QUEUED AS 6760771_31m1[/B]

C205 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 1860.
[CODE]n: 7941212887674603076883331253727591725204522001343123495087580589442399351650523707390951256404501143004296938335755082095976038898738408743842014514367138090516123820397185529209592221563751713828897898581
# 6760771^31-1, difficulty: 211.73, skewness: 0.07, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.86033e+17, est. time: 183.83 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.073
c6: 6760771
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 14124761685208483259494640496812851
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 10M.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 10507
20M 8431
40M 6149
50M 5432[/CODE]

RichD 2018-12-21 14:04

[B]QUEUED AS 42569_47m1[/B]

C213 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2267.
[CODE]n: 867578573843358839320345141130308571580187530056026475788273836667026934891081801198217323468620297891068449889484202417533936571804519451310820061041127502377405878397742198603021689809964966817682896472085823991
# 42569^47-1, difficulty: 222.20, skewness: 5.91, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 9.21573e+17, est. time: 438.84 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.909
c6: 1
c0: -42569
Y1: -1
Y0: 10783198138533063712824038475829688641
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 13929
50M 9928
80M 8000[/CODE]

jyb 2018-12-21 18:45

[B]QUEUED AS 5m4_745M[/B]

SNFS-208.3 (quartic) C181 HCN (5-4,745M), ECM to t51+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 5348680662050759416442595326432002116386524985195733126846581518475711150361710185303328862939773793293549444899374554850077402235922055692645056340364441044774203093496015605640411
skew: 0.894427
c4: 25
c3: 50
c2: 60
c1: 40
c0: 16
Y1: 356811923176489970264571492362373784095686656
Y0: -5293955920339377119177015629247762262821197509765625
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3829
40M 4613
60M 4764
80M 4014
100M 4614
120M 4181
140M 3936
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 100M.

jyb 2018-12-21 23:15

[B]QUEUED AS 8p3_290[/B]

SNFS-209.5 (quartic) C184 HCN (8+3,290), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 3579412456609193635991927195162103593404332076231425211912911784059320028756749534932336572008438056603337075225182112849533433864204543733793210452416603541067635476842098891137148421
# 8^290+3^290, difficulty: 209.52, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -4710128697246244834921603689
Y0: 23945242826029513411849172299223580994042798784118784
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3411
40M 4400
60M 4522
80M 4259
100M 4632
120M 3966
140M 3894
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 110M.

jyb 2018-12-21 23:31

[B]QUEUED AS 8p7_290[/B]

SNFS-209.5 (quartic) C203 HCN (8+7,290), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 27380301024268407293834414728671255398664749738006565268160755300324960828577814075994608962941982681711523773720516128543761964752034016570369538322422507989421555117585329289545259316721629604864266561
# 8^290+7^290, difficulty: 209.52, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
# cost: 3.20109e+17, est. time: 152.43 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -10367793076318844190248738727596255138212949486449
Y0: 23945242826029513411849172299223580994042798784118784
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3410
40M 4239
60M 4599
80M 4037
100M 4421
120M 4115
140M 3830
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 110M.

jyb 2018-12-22 06:14

[B]QUEUED AS 5p3_1125L[/B]

SNFS-209.7 (quartic) C168 HCN (5+3,1125L), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 354739928878557011108489263884392784868805612143291474839690631965916121672001707307840572471869537895718886533998297145149822340871805283683086366266449485793899284001
skew: 1.20994
c4: 9
c3: -45
c2: 60
c1: 0
c0: -25
Y1: 98287398408355663486872799694538116455078125
Y0: -26469779601696886204151865859596520433789980167689432
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2904
40M 3749
60M 3924
80M 3515
100M 3863
120M 3415
140M 3262
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 120M.

jyb 2018-12-22 06:45

[B]QUEUED AS 5p3_1125M[/B]

SNFS-209.7 (quartic) C195 HCN (5+3,1125M), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 648237614542146293324803619546857130709124378307840622193403818924439592443136176849132983332246738827959005577221502032909206208795690124021157475304453825141905257895085482030204687580233644251
skew: 1.20994
c4: 9
c3: 45
c2: 60
c1: 0
c0: -25
Y1: 98287398408355663486872799694538116455078125
Y0: -26469779601696886204151865859596520433789980167689432
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2897
40M 3674
60M 3820
80M 3572
100M 3811
120M 3323
140M 3215
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 120M.

RichD 2018-12-25 02:02

[B]QUEUED AS 3847_61m1[/B]

C209 from the MWRB file with OPN weight 1821.
[CODE]n: 11297187605322209696748962866854919327751100372937045616039330582939964816939916790186420901556333231961616680755345749542990455944887376106054239627475668736033375109084606570892048837714811593767727797298227
# 3847^61-1, difficulty: 218.69, skewness: 0.25, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 6.90596e+17, est. time: 328.86 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.253
c6: 3847
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 709940354471183371072203554758776049
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 8M.
[CODE] Q Yield
8M 9472
20M 7619
40M 5618
50M 4895[/CODE]
Hopefully to get at least one of two systems back online by end of week.

jyb 2018-12-25 19:27

[B]QUEUED AS 9p7_275[/B]

SNFS-209.9 (quartic) C191 HCN (9+7,275), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 90462444820577759019497878637476442191588704447370303526596554928417881694639297951630378371006297871309911287617494848611197631992389631212782455562515480356450434999413962049481747393478401
# 9^275+7^275, difficulty: 209.93, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -30226801971775055948247051683954096612865741943
Y0: 30432527221704537086371993251530170531786747066637049
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 3390
40M 4220
60M 4227
80M 3838
100M 4369
120M 3905
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 110M.

jyb 2018-12-25 21:31

[B]QUEUED AS 8p3_702L[/B]

SNFS-211.3 (quartic) C196 HCN (9+7,275), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 1133847587475336792156680963650713377081570630016344876221742436178696612377664926337552102169050837660166079643234631705881223225205150677345857052598597484217518880289045202852406982627557887969
skew: 0.612372
Y0: -23945242826029513411849172299223580994042798784118784
Y1: 4710128697246244834921603689
c0: 9
c1: -36
c2: 72
c3: -96
c4: 64
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2572
40M 3233
60M 3405
80M 3082
100M 3356
120M 2951
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 140M.

Batalov 2018-12-25 22:01

[QUOTE=jyb;503957]SNFS-211.3 (quartic) C196 HCN ([COLOR=Red]9+7,275[/COLOR]), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 1133847587475336792156680963650713377081570630016344876221742436178696612377664926337552102169050837660166079643234631705881223225205150677345857052598597484217518880289045202852406982627557887969
...
[COLOR=Red]c4: 64[/COLOR]
[/code][/QUOTE]
Is this really 9+7,275?

swellman 2018-12-25 23:39

[QUOTE=jyb;503957]SNFS-211.3 (quartic) C196 HCN (9+7,275), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 1133847587475336792156680963650713377081570630016344876221742436178696612377664926337552102169050837660166079643234631705881223225205150677345857052598597484217518880289045202852406982627557887969
skew: 0.612372
Y0: -23945242826029513411849172299223580994042798784118784
Y1: 4710128697246244834921603689
c0: 9
c1: -36
c2: 72
c3: -96
c4: 64
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2572
40M 3233
60M 3405
80M 3082
100M 3356
120M 2951
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 140M.[/QUOTE]

I believe this is (8+3,702L), correct?

RichD 2018-12-26 00:10

[B]QUEUED AS 30983_53m1[/B]

C234 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2872.
[CODE]n: 345489061961308971520810496560794470895662229852740549275866192234162043810023396300520259678912068160871311989774217792497465842051410135820787789792970088797902341355364231546261395350621205630792442536377409881862771889908346376241
# 30983^53-1, difficulty: 242.52, skewness: 5.60, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.66646e+18, est. time: 2222.12 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.604
c6: 1
c0: -30983
Y1: -1
Y0: 26309415707215186615803947966022630162503
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 11038
60M 8659
100M 7854
150M 6284
200M 6005[/CODE]

jyb 2018-12-26 00:20

[QUOTE=swellman;503965]I believe this is (8+3,702L), correct?[/QUOTE]

Yes, sorry for the confusion. It’s 8+3,702L.

swellman 2018-12-26 16:07

[B]QUEUED AS C211_149_66[/B]

C211_149_66 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 2483014958941347527337427959318783887562168779259841502921316135003762520623739490345129898843757438320119211030619807652243127001883664736356381973779563368495989489311444038163393328237130666116687068595831571
# 149^66+66^149, difficulty: 272.93, anorm: 1.62e+037, rnorm: 2.17e+051
# scaled difficulty: 275.29, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.341e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 3.832e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 272
skew: 2.0103
c6: 1
c0: 66
Y1: -803616698647447868139149
Y0: 3080338106901226309985045499661656392913125376
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 11460
Q=100M 10533
Q=200M 9391
Q=300M 8504
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range of 40-270M.

swellman 2018-12-26 19:34

[B]QUEUED AS C244_146_144[/B]

C244_146_144 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 5546935330215370071261537141210115717311843862112294319293594635996412173530690237678289133454595409783243704587186139178198831948433389294675934410102835217809122504077666209515519496831392236701326721747149814527981207155514249411565567397729
# 146^144+144^146, difficulty: 272.99, anorm: 3.60e+037, rnorm: -8.96e+050
# scaled difficulty: 275.22, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.274e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 3.790e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 272
skew: 2.6207
c6: 1
c0: 324
Y1: -753372754487904390802613999722944889211584512
Y0: 524503804723748275248688345080154231098133441
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5k:
[code]
Q=40M 10326
Q=100M 9509
Q=200M 8577
Q=300M 7791
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 40-300M.

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-26 20:35

Sean, you need to contact Greg since the server run out of space so all your queued work can be distributed again to sievers.

swellman 2018-12-26 21:25

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;504032]Sean, you need to contact Greg since the server run out of space so all your queued work can be distributed again to sievers.[/QUOTE]

Already done, no direct response yet.

swellman 2018-12-26 23:21

[B]QUEUED AS C216_133_113[/B]

C216_133_113 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 110107255735352304608888756719024184296958394908045205433804227984074595988224870066592112306063149182314065375162310974134883086921029793971584777839008852143661161209930638786587088123635402179310662615057278747033
# 133^113+113^133, difficulty: 273.06, anorm: 2.45e+038, rnorm: -3.28e+051
# scaled difficulty: 275.25, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.774e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 3.134e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 273
skew: 4.9677
c6: 1
c0: 15029
Y1: -1471383076677527699142172838322885948765175969
Y0: 22551798287553940012227448984727603895997
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5k.
[code]
Q=40M 10748
Q=100M 9815
Q=200M 9011
Q=300M 7863
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range of 40-285M.

jyb 2018-12-27 17:15

[B]QUEUED AS 10m7_265[/B]

SNFS-212.0 (quartic) C177 HCN (10-7,265), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 376193144555998808668378450125161015531676346621099926467396723244404250165872668186720741842436553612279797297004570405340181688433828595197516073402264531339549024201441428151
# 10^265-7^265, difficulty: 212.00, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -616873509628062366290756156815389726793178407
Y0: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2730
40M 3491
60M 3712
80M 3348
100M 3688
120M 3323
140M 3065
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 130M.

jyb 2018-12-27 17:40

[B]QUEUED AS 10p7_265[/B]

SNFS-212.0 (quartic) C195 HCN (10+7,265), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 454739913949333216622109983358428285745131560448687583374145745552501605288508780063295248297318003092320361052582105013016413394518712323046998684108546590737401249289410640412843289609122603061
# 10^265+7^265, difficulty: 212.00, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -616873509628062366290756156815389726793178407
Y0: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2580
40M 3363
60M 3601
80M 3194
100M 3583
120M 3159
140M 3063
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 130M.

jyb 2018-12-27 17:58

[B]QUEUED AS 10m3_265[/B]

SNFS-212.0 (quartic) C208 HCN (10-3,265), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 7017051434987018454845274017218668561341661630537977896551617579547846649586401069168453260339134394512313420127768764901720494476827100829727333212910373575066495287013128358822893302721137704913255129088691
# 10^265-3^265, difficulty: 212.00, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -19383245667680019896796723
Y0: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2605
40M 3357
60M 3556
80M 3251
100M 3558
120M 3179
140M 3261
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 130M.

VBCurtis 2018-12-30 07:59

[B]QUEUED AS 5_2_760m1[/B]

5*2^760-1 is ready for the 14e queue:
[code]n: 702380048239022952241851022205825945955233423121299742305165351049821596770673569977224402203519198176792262257386107977057160403519338287330500705543214284138520039192493618683385376799
type: snfs
skew: 0.97
deg: 6
c6: 5
c0: -4
Y1: -1
Y0: 170141183460469231731687303715884105728
rlim: 50000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 61
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/code]
Test-sieving 1k blocks on the -r side suggests Q from 10M to 65M to yield ~195M relations:
[code]10M 4314 rels
20M 4361 rels
30M 3805 rels
40M 3553 rels
50M 3216 rels
60M 2603 rels[/code]
I would like to handle the matrix.

swellman 2018-12-30 23:07

[B]QUEUED AS C190_144_125[/B]

C190_144_125 is ready for GNFS on 15e, sieved on the -a side. Thanks to all who helped in the poly search.
[code]
n: 7697669134296667074830456213098625198375315665914045060910362361904370966725658581637759893227317963442053370727515454378314413897657445634660186558480764282228480390653895737172552609715353
skew: 51528352.49886
lss: 0
c0: -634629095650929543509327450260720836012843200
c1: -46916477067162728843472689396188764498
c2: 2858138577668757917148558578419
c3: 182351856632609375992800
c4: -1571253387672761
c5: -2489760
Y0: -5731210371172891680776181198090780237
Y1: 434805938509131226
# lognorm 59.57, E 52.33, alpha -7.24 (proj -1.82), 5 real roots
# MurphyE = 1.94387212e-14
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 96
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.3
[/code]

Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=30M 4986
Q=80M 6434
Q=150M 6769
Q=250M 6747
Q=350M 6949
Q=400M 5742
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 30-380M.

RichD 2018-12-31 16:46

[B]QUEUED AS 44111_47m1 [/B]

C214 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 1248.
[CODE]n: 4458280621222819441807935093976664052086181259896865788064602932179589361680312452932025785608243724694417660832848161278479033480770913743139411862958140290403406128840878016621806044295735935448116532168431189457
# 44111^47-1, difficulty: 222.94, skewness: 5.94, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 9.79272e+17, est. time: 466.32 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.944
c6: 1
c0: -44111
Y1: -1
Y0: 14334258331806044348450507807219767681
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 11548
50M 8249
80M 6684
100M 6522[/CODE]

swellman 2018-12-31 17:02

The 14e queue seems stuck on 5_2_760m1. I’ve reported the behavior to Greg, waiting to hear back. I’m hoping 44111_47m1 will process normally, and maybe even fix the glitch with 5_2_760m1. Otherwise it is in Greg’s hands. Or in a few days I kill the stuck job(s), and then resubmit after an appropriate amount of time has passed.

Any insights would be appreciated.

jyb 2019-01-02 18:55

[B]QUEUED AS 11p5_259[/B]

SNFS-231.2 C186 HCN (11+5,259), ECM to t51+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 902443141242670690495213827686475523672232981128333354814630059116000390058351684374638452758566463098927885873414090209822635402016041396493350607142295783391343235111455128741673528567
# 11^259+5^259, difficulty: 231.19, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
skew: 1.000
lss: 0
c6: 1
c5: -1
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -72759576141834259033203125
Y0: 340039485861577398992406882305761986971
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 2K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 4680
40M 3424
60M 2720
80M 2289
100M 3074
120M 2492
140M 2555
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on algebraic side, 20M - 100M.


All times are UTC. The time now is 10:17.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.