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swellman 2018-09-20 13:17

[QUOTE=chris2be8;496309]Sextics usually sieve better on the algebraic side, ie pass -a to the siever. I've run my script to check .polys against it and there's not much in it but the algebraic side should be better. Or you might want to sieve on both sides if the yield drops too much at higher special-Qs.

Chris[/QUOTE]

Test sieving of C250_137_86 on the -a side did prove to show better yield. I’ll update my posted poly. Thanks!

swellman 2018-09-20 18:19

14e
 
[B]QUEUED AS C144_M13_k81[/B]

C144_M13_k81 of the kosta project is ready for GNFS on 14e.
[code]
n: 264825344906277453126120227223411957834410035722235594567788230602806981072356424646791893431369093264813074612933105103650242407034060274594613
skew: 661856.93
lss: 0
c0: -9261665869767876993551129515669384
c1: 62581908081653463903587803882
c2: 61903444113717332615053
c3: -725663200807868038
c4: -238966442838
c5: 299880
Y0: -3883313110859950532064678675
Y1: 9301187349143
# size 5.639e-14, alpha -6.305, combined = 1.188e-11 rroots = 3
rlim: 33000000
alim: 33000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5
[/code]

Test sieving indicates that a range for Q of 10-25M should generate ~60M relations.

swellman 2018-09-21 11:35

[B]QUEUED AS C188_150_83[/B]


C188_150_83 is ready for GNFS on 15e, having withstood a full t60 of ECM courtesy of yoyo@Home. Thanks to all who helped find this polynomial.

[code]
n: 18542951545768537847599033843697023124198220145962227794225956507917052033530134528476420619374854116700926506230430088859878776248843792600128881295042916994468287033412294014153979070999
skew: 98110230.51
lss: 0
c0: 675565795079904019155877127195861801648673504
c1: 4751041014896174135851741260094078732
c2: -3012537945628446533408455206946
c3: 13600311149275266763153
c4: 218294305919052
c5: 550800
Y0: -2020398261471684607571791990907427085
Y1: 14143750483104066991
# norm 3.343861e-18 alpha -7.572896 e 3.275045e-14 rroots 3
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 10K. No significant improvements were found with 3LP on any side, but the yield here is steady out past Q=450M so no worries.
[code]
Q=40M 15881
Q=70M 17055
Q=120M 16771
Q=180M 16498
Q=250M 16340
Q=350M 14997
[/code]
From this we estimate the Q range to be 40-330M.

RichD 2018-09-21 16:34

[B]QUEUED AS C210_35537_47m1[/B]


C210 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 4409.
[CODE]n: 214450610168077629519166479024714358025224791633270371267131376938203584154810129416513028621855463060682769955065554591905385565444124051866815529147381067220533482664890070409214002899674715043157023326037887
# 35537^47-1, difficulty: 218.43, skewness: 5.73, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 6.75906e+17, est. time: 321.86 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.734
c6: 1
c0: -35537
Y1: -1
Y0: 2543584080999221073313013123968225921
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
16M 11461
20M 11323
50M 8134
80M 6319[/CODE]

swellman 2018-09-21 23:01

Just noting the incompetence of a NFS@Home mod - namely me. Used characters like ^ and a minus sign in two recent 14e jobs (again), thereby resulting in both jobs refusing to sieve at all.:max:

I've reentered the jobs with NFS compatible names and deleted the offending items. Sorry about that. All seems well now.

I believe all jobs are now queued.

swellman 2018-09-23 13:03

[B]QUEUED AS C242_136_81[/B]

C242_136_81 is ready for SNFS on 15e.

[code]
n: 87891561251975666185050330253237664863319596816485685006116570556177466197307139993798353826909830234776174144822182705525016541208691009404455376759493506468825272461001083132193974526148739395646810193144824810943114719939507419964007268857
# 136^81+81^136, difficulty: 261.46, anorm: 4.04e+031, rnorm: 5.56e+057
# scaled difficulty: 265.82, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.049e-017, alpha = 0.000, combined = 4.633e-014, rroots = 1
type: snfs
size: 261
skew: 3.3276
c5: 1
c0: 408
Y1: -13696907849916094763278545543233536
Y0: 10144175740568179028790664417176723510595582355545683
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K:
[code]
Q=40M 10954
Q=70M 11419
Q=130M 12871
Q=200M 13351
Q=300M 12623
[/code]

Resulting a range for Q of 40-230M.

swellman 2018-09-23 20:06

[B]QUEUED AS C220_142_118[/B]

C220_142_118 is ready for SNFS on 15e, sieved on the [B]algebraic[/B] side.

[code]
n: 2646305977279736944640023728004566540181822955165438427448340575922885032785746814655805797098054938514644598489296979681988572592147830537841263596550893880937016095167209024565344647804302787903007950067069689184957549
# 142^118+118^142, difficulty: 266.97, anorm: 8.38e+039, rnorm: -5.22e+049
# scaled difficulty: 268.61, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 9.748e-014, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.199e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 266
lss: 0
skew: 1.0637
c6: 3481
c0: 5041
Y1: -50648695249123499309756421583558292837890576
Y0: 10596610576391421032662867140133202401
rlim: 400000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the [B]-a[/B] side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 9373
Q=70M 9518
Q=120M 7639
Q=180M 6632
Q=250M 5611
Q=350M 6059
Q=450M 4887
[/code]
Which results in an estimated Q range of 40-385M.

RichD 2018-09-24 15:47

[B]QUEUED AS 25537_53m1[/B]

C230 from the MWRB file with an OPN weight of 4737.
[CODE]n: 14888487613938832806184341361454478424299142081157824178337206877328669006017178642121319789395257004274503647508307282359508595298094142742341540946966063795557564757218009319581379980242581921707005422982985495016919172033089461
# 25537^53-1, difficulty: 237.99, skewness: 5.43, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.27349e+18, est. time: 1558.80 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.427
c6: 1
c0: -25537
Y1: -1
Y0: 4618797141382880572077153422397311664577
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 14057
60M 11021
100M 9740
150M 7827[/CODE]

RichD 2018-09-25 01:21

[B]QUEUED AS 37201_47m1
[/B]
C211 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3912.
[CODE]n: 1760045651641152771535286278587236938589980762891877824130951624466439910283809965779191681557378650746185777375608747376201356956621326461977381169008146589155759316296694100998995027830909828630683040925813247
# 37201^47-1, difficulty: 219.39, skewness: 5.78, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.31379e+17, est. time: 348.28 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.778
c6: 1
c0: -37201
Y1: -1
Y0: 3668064083391929202348028966235817601
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 59
mfba: 59
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 17144
50M 12205
80M 9303[/CODE]

swellman 2018-09-25 23:36

14e
 
[B]QUEUED AS C236_151_46[/B]


C236_151_46 ready for SNFS on 14e.

[code]
n: 12094503490489939215553698547771995164454399664101724415974212526304333398756886986337629195058865309568563560784652819437648174891257462837740448568154593951554181573373870182981345886711816990723010127238453465470342824699176782955211
# 151^46+46^151, difficulty: 252.74, anorm: 1.67e+032, rnorm: 6.78e+055
# scaled difficulty: 256.67, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.499e-017, alpha = 0.000, combined = 6.777e-014, rroots = 1
type: snfs
size: 252
skew: 1.2684
c5: 46
c0: 151
Y1: -40812436757196811351
Y0: 76336975747103059593894196506048699534264789630976
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=30M 5725
Q=70M 6301
Q=120M 6593
Q=180M 6301
Q=250M 6440
Q=350M 6158
Q=450M 5408
[/code]
Which gives an initial Q range estimate of 30-400M.

swellman 2018-09-26 11:01

[B]QUEUED AS C242_131_99[/B]

C242_131_99 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 37758438956165517775524915624729357785268978901327232102492844142346148659212907480607881419811417553222660618073912351703554761470947564842965966297767502545415893848904946311899200494066248631274817996439859981085856968581338962791536007737
# 131^99+99^131, difficulty: 261.43, anorm: 2.28e+032, rnorm: -1.99e+058
# scaled difficulty: 265.75, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.664e-018, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.046e-014, rroots = 1
type: snfs
size: 261
skew: 6.6463
c5: 1
c0: 12969
Y1: -7700431458051553042886520966464507199573692403247401
Y0: 2215266158818675629763672350056491195443601
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 6659
Q=70M 7300
Q=120M 7947
Q=180M 7779
Q=250M 7698
Q=350M 7735
[/code]
Resulting in a sieving range for Q of 40-350M.

debrouxl 2018-09-26 11:10

A quintic of that difficulty... yeah, it needs a relatively wide sieving range.

swellman 2018-09-27 11:40

[B]QUEUED AS C250_131_109[/B]


C250_131_109 is ready for SNFS in 15e.
[code]
n: 1470026176205340557671334245951375219824466379900540630395619485651923599839058188667550837457606661236238802813706295376833131039827220722090238326763415576403218005138953531381547842242788283905666711406480152276725563548574849801744957974966544867
# 131^109+109^131, difficulty: 268.94, anorm: 2.39e+038, rnorm: 3.00e+050
# scaled difficulty: 270.96, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.262e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 3.881e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 268
skew: 4.9255
c6: 1
c0: 14279
Y1: -129087241933376588180389974363760340041
Y0: 665860043319738865087230422941091304891802681
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 11668
Q=70M 10312
Q=130M 9780
Q=200M 9061
Q=300M 7941
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 40-290M.

This will be the last XYYXF job I suggest for some time. It will take months for 15e to digest the current queue.

RichD 2018-10-01 22:19

[B]QUEUED AS 36847639_31m1[/B]

C227 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 4230.
[CODE]n: 98240369265285327827263340747270733715067834889934516069827088636165978257529836903116960515009172415186016382576350731681739231122127653001365590691256468287019104857844666472413273468396949406531603068677352911151746082205401
# 36847639^31-1, difficulty: 235
c6: 36847639
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 67927921982754390788637426377367582199
skew: 0.0548
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 12647
60M 9354
100M 8422
150M 6484[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-02 03:08

[B]QUEUED AS 26417_53m1[/B]

C230 from the MWRB file with an OPN weight of 4453.
[CODE]n: 86687852073717623228079026207232937612138800042042612430385197338178241800597908639519439594522978265337618814714872910946896163326249555414703768795363889499560478202764191021703787848753510288538065329388138948349546647024988821
# 26417^53-1, difficulty: 238.78, skewness: 5.46, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.48436e+18, est. time: 1659.22 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.457
c6: 1
c0: -26417
Y1: -1
Y0: 6265438417981622288241417616661206738097
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 15001
60M 11628
100M 10462
120M 9912[/CODE]
I have a couple 30-bit jobs coming up soon.

RichD 2018-10-03 20:01

[B]QUEUED AS 12936304421_19m1[/B]

C172 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2164.
[ a.k.a. Phi_19(Phi_5(337))/26544120241 ]
[CODE]n: 3878070942402132802317995125287147075758519592829521323310227727039008787566931960756967149558966413593137914332523056936331897586039470807105902955699697567134919868400479
# 12936304421^19-1, SNFS-192, sieve on algebraic side
lss: 0
skew: 0.0206
c6: 12936304421
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 2164864310970542071859854410461
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 57
mfba: 57
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Notice: This only needs a very small range.
[CODE] Q Yield
14M 15280
20M 13211
30M 14155
40M 10259[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-03 23:57

[B]QUEUED AS 27751_53m1[/B]

C232 from the MWRB file with an OPN weight of 4084.
[CODE]n: 1123323375314394379791519904229215208761440650341329269560992514681837096649752162988417666108529282319775860356773193182956465522542047955601678563202075271622688291625451915236563111366761281169729307617202708787849542552412989553
# 27751^53-1, difficulty: 239.94, skewness: 5.50, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.81461e+18, est. time: 1816.48 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.502
c6: 1
c0: -27751
Y1: -1
Y0: 9761301718065184076942669934363722499751
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 13694
60M 10681
100M 9599
150M 7500[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-04 00:16

[B]QUEUED AS 37463_47m1[/B]

C211 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3834.
[CODE]n: 2430686779038592339690826660125970949272458889072979901190556025718689186123149682309666239840538758613455531573655627294740292594221589625602455135946761492165456218509202232172164768369259038436200328852642393
# 37463^47-1, difficulty: 219.53, skewness: 5.78, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.40267e+17, est. time: 352.51 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.785
c6: 1
c0: -37463
Y1: -1
Y0: 3879898982822700418989220053714553921
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 88
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6
[/CODE]Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
15M 12431
20M 11919
50M 8609
75M 7945[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-05 23:09

[B]QUEUED AS 37493_47m1[/B]

C211 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3283.
[CODE]n: 2521856723225463196444336913521894228019230426467714457998094246511553387631132388628780029258151274452990637661567824750738612648586217113031932474220346900947485516155099774000965776694861907290640250386619443
# 37493^47-1, difficulty: 219.55, skewness: 5.79, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.41287e+17, est. time: 352.99 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.785
c6: 1
c0: -37493
Y1: -1
Y0: 3904824637659773233330444682317864801
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 18629
50M 13772
80M 10467[/CODE]

swellman 2018-10-06 23:59

[B]QUEUED AS C244_131_108[/B]

C244_131_108 is ready for SNFS on 15e.

[code]
n: 6687950063169091455236840300789015922103621740077828881658059683906001001416057369345824358139075517572775096121777856893388579033275117039354274037132128690801156693723760803484530944420917860274940174186692301216202149236157366952207845013329
# 131^108+108^131, difficulty: 268.54, anorm: 2.08e+037, rnorm: -2.12e+050
# scaled difficulty: 270.70, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.697e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 4.416e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 268
skew: 1.3747
c6: 4
c0: 27
Y1: -181218013752860863798605786171374950246514688
Y0: 129087241933376588180389974363760340041
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 11761
Q=80M 9857
Q=140M 9278
Q=200M 8738
Q=300M 8103
Q=400M 7206
[/code]

So Q from 40-310M.

swellman 2018-10-07 00:36

[B]QUEUED AS C242_138_89[/B]

C242_138_89 is ready for SNFS on 15e.

[code]
n: 45275931157846234595436900471853230260461420014420187412077304338366985769787164773668254138761671576031952926717726937118977381881713197855265202200502056436251936025042618868741553757669835191852831628150665798946491981327027674788783759937
# 138^89+89^138, difficulty: 269.02, anorm: 2.35e+037, rnorm: -1.03e+051
# scaled difficulty: 271.29, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.226e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 3.754e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 269
skew: 2.2732
c6: 1
c0: 138
Y1: -685441117453157943684715454813971461595561769
Y0: 125367884074242926012956722757632
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
# 40M 11556
# 80M 9966
# 150M 8854
# 250M 8331
# 350M 7746[/code]
Suggesting a range of Q of 40-310M.

swellman 2018-10-09 00:19

[B]QUEUED AS C246_129_115[/B]

C246_129_115 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 258509070461237686724485611487707577109900902715202071224782062128482219539912610602946112350392585226705096938890113616747755892577451856912760350201367326428643265850023172557556003614757849769400511416066643516613194734704544221732985457276349
# 129^115+115^129, difficulty: 267.94, anorm: 2.80e+040, rnorm: -4.11e+049
# scaled difficulty: 269.47, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 8.059e-014, alpha = 0.000, combined = 1.925e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 267
skew: 4.7707
c6: 129
c0: 1520875
Y1: -18821518001888029998421473323345184326171875
Y0: 12624218296101316964674488652110574045569
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on -r side with Q in blocks of 5K:
[code]
Q=40M 8250
Q=80M 6803
Q=150M 6289
Q=250M 5802
Q=350M 5317
Q=450M 4552
[/code]
Suggesting a range for Q of 40-430M.

RichD 2018-10-09 01:16

[B]QUEUED AS 2047572230657338751575051_11m1[/B]

C244 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_59(5)/21180247636732981) ]
[CODE]n: 1295365451317440440370885114089235443589181345228315782250784859298702104143770503250614238739000719826365862647947170950721555236980292825676173674298340666978717319616175188028178390626094629924963651579571724748868227636918489501455878290261
# 2047572230657338751575051^11-1, difficulty: 243.11, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.22
# cost: 4.88604e+18, est. time: 2326.69 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: -4
c2: -3
c1: 3
c0: 1
Y1: -2047572230657338751575051
Y0: 4192552039759070047287980611189706613533285652602
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 13816
60M 14396
100M 15753
150M 14253
200M 13677[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-09 01:18

[B]QUEUED AS C211_37853_47m1[/B]

C211 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3705.
[CODE]n: 3914042094840362902572858287923123527636354070462448733733520751459777337320162076338660631774889526369884297956614913715327561534811993506918614790138451911987357981056872642903411945207037260568986362067543643
# 37853^47-1, difficulty: 219.75, skewness: 5.79, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.53573e+17, est. time: 358.84 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.795
c6: 1
c0: -37853
Y1: -1
Y0: 4215047159623258861966138692483200161
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 11462
50M 8079
80M 6410
100M 6282[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-09 16:43

[B]QUEUED AS 3121_61m1[/B]

C201 from the MWRB file with OPN weight 3591.
[CODE]n: 845753468780786494736376033039680289844479431172954454293651764685895951998204331826234246342205235744112717793712046240590033428001920348874609970332823419520842688219351598750334841261757218418882079
# 3121^61-1, difficulty: 213.15, skewness: 0.20, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.35126e+17, est. time: 207.20 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.200
c5: 3121
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 854132454306508084926716088976616568267841
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 10146
30M 8842
40M 8111
50M 7309
60M 6857[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-13 13:36

[B]QUEUED AS 700888562389531127981_13m1[/B]

C204 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_5(162709)/79/15215279/p19/p19 ]
[CODE]n: 159804031187598927978196334110753113212556096324973263574894891367811919748984465707005888339318575116087251668715433508411041164903198642691754274106642944634767129218395186719244022643853890837714740567
# 700888562389531127981^13-1, difficulty: 250.15, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10
# cost: 8.39832e+18, est. time: 3999.20 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: -5
c3: -4
c2: 6
c1: 3
c0: -1
Y1: -700888562389531127981
Y0: 491244776888463668441416606310150201136362
# Y1: -p
# Y0: p^2 + 1
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 9614
60M 7963
100M 7062
150M 5696
200M 5428[/CODE]

swellman 2018-10-13 15:36

[B]QUEUED AS C189_149_128[/B]


C189_149_128 survived ECM to t60 (courtesy of Yoyo@Home). It is a GNFS job, Many thanks to all who helped in the poly search.

[code]
n: 224721043131451314530706882226514577194536340276755633732256294973483520933982526177811856847486092401832570617980596457881075585477793447156112994395320937491654315622621252657217228147033
skew: 19938621.07
c0: -7806768002733989728710043706415531495550734
c1: 2713947138048352759571951890467654099
c2: -915664060955029505347225829340
c3: 22835538448552702465150
c4: 3972934508514249
c5: 9191376
Y0: -2177001062399874024159860463596869975
Y1: 4132938727149154106
# size 1.777e-18, alpha -7.101, combined = 2.468e-14 rroots = 3
rlim: 420000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 5K. Attempts at 3LP and other combinations proved worse in yield.
[code]
Q=30M 7093
Q=70M 7043
Q=130M 7405
Q=200M 6537
Q=300M 5715
Q=400M 5878
[/code]
Which works out to Q range of 30-380M as a start.

RichD 2018-10-14 00:00

[B]QUEUED AS C238_13931_59m1[/B]

C238 from the OPN t550 file.
[CODE]n: 2713305000677034158593852218571923023001891382966414650979694942888833085553916268395631704379709638284667383761733628259138065726139953671450468261019874743846449790238852497222968524643228358812691155753085460200524730865773370783269807
# 13931^59-1, difficulty: 248.64, skewness: 4.91, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.48307e+18, est. time: 3563.37 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 4.905
c6: 1
c0: -13931
Y1: -1
Y0: 275310593237370629719781788011773602699801
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 10027
60M 7980
100M 7230
150M 5797
200M 5537[/CODE]

swellman 2018-10-14 01:39

[B]QUEUED AS C220_139_83[/B]


C220_139_83 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 3810965782387506860940708090874086915621193382861488970667837449129699118970560067161511535157340585622728182111866057115520700620305105064126185211734360040590613104082028857296302848776015485239729550586380291232729049
# 139^83+83^139, difficulty: 266.75, anorm: 2.15e+038, rnorm: -3.00e+050
# scaled difficulty: 268.78, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.736e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 3.224e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 266
skew: 4.7535
c6: 1
c0: 11537
Y1: -137656310293626928473255626953462008797108987
Y0: 1005095210669462420559310325641
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 10055
Q=80M 8666
Q=130M 8851
Q=200M 7824
Q=300M 6959
Q=400M 6155
[/code]
Suggesting a range for Q of 40M-350M.

swellman 2018-10-14 01:54

[B]QUEUED AS C221_146_104[/B]

C221_146_104 is ready for a SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 51674372802734023777246227888858591664008875485621026481761192335999307108263739567129251965566849275656343448040815912809819498804859666981043011676882235337059001452792778135288054573133014445995129483458549770953218557
# 146^104+104^146, difficulty: 266.61, anorm: 7.59e+039, rnorm: 1.85e+049
# scaled difficulty: 268.18, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.101e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.428e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 266
skew: 1.1197
c6: 2704
c0: 5329
Y1: -47477585226700098686074966922953
Y0: 19556458777555465647188627051954842734952448
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K.
[code]
Q=40M 8673
Q=70M 7937
Q=110M 7874
Q=180M 6254
Q=250M 5964
Q=350M 5473
[/code]
Suggesting a Q range of 40-380M as a start.

swellman 2018-10-14 18:15

[B]QUEUED AS C224_128_123[/B]

C224_128_123 is ready for SNFS.

[code]
n: 85709295053327085209545241945621287313652790789057417347709039928386144040147137003983945772720299239708523232349717685921736459248349451133697214316807550280514631775686108829541225197284965263867522929233899312505604388209
# 128^123+123^128, difficulty: 272.64, anorm: 1.34e+041, rnorm: 1.20e+050
# scaled difficulty: 274.13, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 4.301e-014, alpha = 0.000, combined = 1.212e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 272
skew: 3.4124
c6: 1681
c0: 2654208
Y1: -2787593149816327892691964784081045188247552
Y0: 231808093399649596959220420164090184566635169
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 96
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.6
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K.
[code]
Q=40M 7548
Q=70M 6854
Q=130M 6490
Q=200M 5876
Q=300M 5444
Q=400M 4800
[/code]
Suggesting an adjusted initial range of 30-390M for Q.

I will take the post processing.

RichD 2018-10-15 05:59

[B]QUEUED AS C249_13967_61m1[/B]

C249 from the MWRB file with OPN weight 17710. (14e)
[CODE]n: 508415853377061038453426676630797153047731958454132722831230005248181464991098006904220344045678726082979957562181853997100991557967251997982987869753773234919221915314140280886302313912946600989580936292354306360121691904764456626233486054044749601
# 13967^61-1, difficulty: 253
skew: 0.204
c6: 13967
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 282508377860445731805373852310088331844449
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 94
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 10484
60M 8918
100M 8695
150M 7497
200M 6935
250M 6331
300M 6192
350M 5970[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-15 18:13

[B]QUEUED AS C211_38149_47m1[/B]

C211 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3629.
[CODE]n: 5600627196625258333331388087661525519744464148266812813271881626722878513626356020990605260335702981486723746491374879420013333666097901678650047469858687238829345091534543535834977126619995667654400924196250051
# 38149^47-1, difficulty: 219.91, skewness: 5.80, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.63734e+17, est. time: 363.68 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.802
c6: 1
c0: -38149
Y1: -1
Y0: 4486061945405564778764439919060024801
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 15239
50M 10765
70M 9057[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-16 15:34

[B]QUEUED AS C174_150332843_31m1[/B]

C174 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_31(Phi_11(31)/23/397/617)/1303/26471521/1506097057/219860768909/p41 ]
[CODE]n: 506400363046308353439600173177334163974751694986762018401483647382817597166227568159799933286636548185887547878078502650464630621022114612117527193750213543297833143491972909
# 150332843^31-1, GNFS-174
lss: 0
Y0: -3587858886563646152364846998066749
Y1: 76620967035613627
c0: -15040986183144149409812872979851743912032100
c1: -2594741531592797741887371968876311500
c2: -42748657418937597361356013261
c3: 4105769941611333279320
c4: -40776010956444
c5: 851760
skew: 32405513.55
type: gnfs
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 10636
60M 9731
100M 10526
150M 10644
200M 10729
250M 9432[/CODE]

jyb 2018-10-16 19:51

For your consideration
 
[B]QUEUED AS 3_526_plus_2_526[/B]

C193 Homogeneous Cunningham number. ECM to t55.
[code]
n: 9050179345658295141709130029820389359683066942337584700674788581111005407674098001101778657771754346784885028677147188012157874937131397291231244641128035189904411223348200214425555138054174597
# 3^526+2^526, difficulty: 252.52, skewness: 1.14, alpha: 0.00
skew: 1.145
c6: 4
c0: 9
Y1: -309485009821345068724781056
Y0: 969773729787523602876821942164080815560161
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
20M 7672
60M 6114
100M 5992
140M 5099
180M 4559
220M 4267
260M 4431
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side from 20M-250M.

swellman 2018-10-17 01:30

[QUOTE=jyb;498148]C193 Homogeneous Cunningham number. ECM to t55.
[code]
n: 9050179345658295141709130029820389359683066942337584700674788581111005407674098001101778657771754346784885028677147188012157874937131397291231244641128035189904411223348200214425555138054174597
# 3^526+2^526, difficulty: 252.52, skewness: 1.14, alpha: 0.00
skew: 1.145
c6: 4
c0: 9
Y1: -309485009821345068724781056
Y0: 969773729787523602876821942164080815560161
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

...
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side from 20M-250M.[/QUOTE]

Which siever do you intend for this job? I think it's meant to be 15e/31 but it's not clear to me.

jyb 2018-10-17 03:09

[QUOTE=swellman;498164]Which siever do you intend for this job? I think it's meant to be 15e/31 but it's not clear to me.[/QUOTE]

Oh dang it! Sorry, I meant it to be 14e/31. The yield is a little low, but it would ultimately require about the same or more total special-q at 32 bits, and 31 should give us faster post-processing.

swellman 2018-10-17 11:30

No worries, just wasn’t sure your intent. The job has been submitted to the 14e queue.

RichD 2018-10-17 23:10

[B]QUEUED AS 38557_47m1[/B]

C211 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3533.
[CODE]n: 9136084218112244961409310446661820338299671706925540250019381623267985199050351548325721340153366887743215360118860986027469659570342778204552346732589538743221732965687307068739544922487601563620868185935617307
# 38557^47-1, difficulty: 220.13, skewness: 5.81, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.77824e+17, est. time: 370.39 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.812
c6: 1
c0: -38557
Y1: -1
Y0: 4884564891244157394207983074307556001
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 85
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 3.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 10482
40M 8082
60M 6755[/CODE]

jyb 2018-10-18 06:14

[B]QUEUED AS 3_527plus2_527[/B]

C190 HCN, ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 1584814575261097115480286626269838090237388365317719481231350429173795718921501946791932073048763669046331674077545981479382722680840539576557782781280494417313637930496399101762634093688869
# 3^527+2^527, difficulty: 252.22, skewness: 1.07, alpha: 0.00
skew: 1.070
c6: 2
c0: 3
Y1: -309485009821345068724781056
Y0: 969773729787523602876821942164080815560161
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
20M 7436
60M 6019
100M 5849
140M 4985
180M 4421
220M 4252
260M 4292
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side from 20M-250M.

RichD 2018-10-18 16:55

[B]QUEUED AS 780xxx093_11m1[/B]

C237 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_7(14083))/23/58545255319 ]
[CODE]n: 620582621713304304814813786873352364132705998359611065868882837109026375405908930902497611912873808639672564469641066056402918255237164767637192650456099364128085731044223236794398479691522016678072795709252529894485237793217187299132039
# 7801927585025353459681093^11-1, difficulty: 248.92, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.22
# cost: 7.64708e+18, est. time: 3641.47 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: -4
c2: -3
c1: 3
c0: 1
Y1: -7801927585025353459681093
Y0: 60870074041979543937922852357218610808365261674650
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 9355
60M 10027
100M 11188
200M 9999
300M 8799[/CODE]

VBCurtis 2018-10-22 05:37

[B]QUEUED AS 13_2_861m1[/B]

13*2^861-1 is ready for the 14e queue: (suggested name 13_2_861m1)
[code]n: 86956976790452610229521016211168308484551647004227244213886271425293343847948137614572299092181419505438948711701570559721167320670296634251958071912601088921116493493737048048487459308263241702354397
skew: 0.46
type: snfs
size: 261
c6: 104
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 11150372599265311570767859136324180752990208
rlim: 134000000
alim: 200000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 33
mfbr: 92
mfba: 66
rlambda: 4.0
alambda: 2.7[/code]
Q-range of 20M-290M on the -r side should produce ~615M relations, enough for this 32/33LP job.
[code]Q=20M 0.099 sec/rel, 4826 rels
Q=50M 0.122 sec/rel, 3247 rels
Q=80M 0.143 sec/rel, 2526 rels
Q=110M 0.160 sec/rel, 2540 rels
Q=140M 0.187 sec/rel, 2026 rels
Q=170M 0.182 sec/rel, 1652 rels
Q=200M 0.207 sec/rel, 1928 rels
Q=230M 0.212 sec/rel, 1669 rels
Q=260M 0.221 sec/rel, 1814 rels
Q=290M 0.214 sec/rel, 1666 rels[/code]
Q-ranges of 1k were tested.
I also tested rlim=200M, alim=268M. While yield improved by 5-8% throughout the range, sec/rel worsened in all cases and total sieve time is longer; since memory use is also worse, I stuck with the smaller lims.

VBCurtis 2018-10-25 06:18

[B]QUEUED AS 13_2_867m1[/B]

13*2^867-1 is ready for the 14e queue:
[code]n: 8355916899153790640958925830181795385674250026360965776154078421743630646403617229530967890051936366243056946701000778277687841170457061030809465907775052849215501972975872120771067914171284582637534028079905519413363972247613787
skew: 0.46
type: snfs
size: 263
c6: 104
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 22300745198530623141535718272648361505980416
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 33
mfbr: 93
mfba: 65
rlambda: 4.0
alambda: 2.7[/code]
Q from 20M to 305M on the -r side should produce 620M relations, enough for this hybrid 32/33 job. I considered 33LP, but sec/rel was not sufficiently faster.
[code]Q=20M 0.118 sec/rel, 4540 rels
Q=50M 0.145 sec/rel, 3035 rels
Q=80M 0.163 sec/rel, 2424 rels
Q=110M 0.187 sec/rel, 2372 rels
Q=140M 0.208 sec/rel, 2003 rels
Q=170M 0.205 sec/rel, 1626 rels
Q=200M 0.217 sec/rel, 2018 rels
Q=230M 0.230 sec/rel, 1693 rels
Q=260M 0.257 sec/rel, 1808 rels
Q=290M 0.245 sec/rel, 1606 rels[/code]
Q-ranges of 1k were tested.
I'd like to handle the LA on this job, as well as 13*2^861-1 from the previous post.

swellman 2018-10-28 23:23

[B]QUEUED AS C250_142_122[/B]

C250_142_122 is ready for SNFS on 15e.

[code]
n: 6573889137541755438043787411090596242537703391021447631054239904708293494245811105196013184412919669794845959409813005752545634236081852927159486029034853864652115133966492068711895134436151936485390749550560050230574760319958451064560837363835803049
# 142^122+122^142, difficulty: 263.11, anorm: 1.73e+040, rnorm: 1.57e+049
# scaled difficulty: 264.60, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.423e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.921e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 263
skew: 12.9376
c6: 4
c0: 18757561
Y1: -10596610576391421032662867140133202401
Y0: 56364547818837181632963626775458010220312328
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 2K:
[code]
Q=40M 4050
Q=80M 3171
Q=130M 3158
Q=200M 3128
Q=300M 2694
Q=400M 2299
[/code]
Suggesting a range for Q of 40-340M.

swellman 2018-10-29 02:18

[B]QUEUED AS C253_133_100[/B]

C253_133_100 is ready for SNFS on 15e.

[code]
n: 8834398754217013229700231776020760386766850184940871943955929608717355130376685106166447215013456614518371934959718319980006129377802272105803370998825078213134823532463301714536761787972175138309353900369277055863326080496678669270241734547747003053189
# 133^100+100^133, difficulty: 267.40, anorm: 3.58e+031, rnorm: -8.90e+058
# scaled difficulty: 271.96, suggest sieving algebraic side
# size = 4.680e-018, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.620e-014, rroots = 1
type: snfs
lss: 0
size: 267
skew: 3.1698
c5: 1
c0: 320
Y1: -50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Y0: 2999389172244674021626250714968771318167601
rlim: 400000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 96
mfba: 64
rlambda: 3.2
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 10K:
[code]
Q=40M 21277
Q=80M 16913
Q=150M 14920
Q=250M 13268
Q=350M 12167
[/code]
Suggesting a range for Q of 40-360M.

RichD 2018-10-29 09:08

15e Candidate
 
[B]QUEUED AS 5039_73m1[/B]

C267 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 81689 for the 15e queue.
[CODE]n: 370578310340182650925597894096489492405238154392626587142699411352335326934686506745300578287661225117594768514219268811410645016482255916982419635809249253655096305319894937453168256773675988388453614757304530138800919307508286254422205328431242271129848806373092161
# 5039^73-1, difficulty: 270.27, skewness: 0.24, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.76611e+19, est. time: 17933.84 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.242
c6: 5039
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 267998461123333843822313649147610645572765121
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 94
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.8[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 10448
60M 9656
100M 9619
150M 8294
250M 6956
350M 6461[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-30 01:55

[B]QUEUED AS C216_858xx343_5m1[/B]

C216 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 1346.
P54^5-1
[CODE]n: 543395488430202013023992178680553448927060329330013130821938932173903255312757315391758634905078885319803332677235378950895288741125449565712778242190728813603053898620689977188481489946669202736186451797218419504801
# 858576519383732875273928972042726910726848754157383343^5-1, difficulty: 215.74, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
# cost: 5.40169e+17, est. time: 257.22 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 858576519383732875273928972042726910726848754157383343
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 91
mfba: 62
rlambda: 3.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 11505
60M 12759
100M 12854
140M 11085[/CODE]

RichD 2018-10-30 20:37

[B]QUEUED AS 775940419_23m1[/B]

C196 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2443.
[ a.k.a. Phi_23(Phi_3(48247)/3) ]
[CODE]n: 3768983625608574429534299430947038876830230197943933331518839964260516475155505997600562256731608796799440706073579429166829527818341441471384674797755933258061578554757208913091431257382924999781
# 775940419^23-1, difficulty: 213.36, skewness: 30.31, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.42644e+17, est. time: 210.78 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 30.314
c6: 1
c0: -775940419
Y1: -1
Y0: 362504581718728329005862997143504721
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 16M.
[CODE] Q Yield
16M 9530
20M 9599
50M 6509
80M 5071
100M 5016[/CODE]

jyb 2018-10-31 16:58

[B]QUEUED AS 7_355m2_355[/B]

GNFS C158 HCN (7-2,355), ECM to t55. For 14e.

[code]
n: 22795329870195321077005339925744314618878566620985708492968838828506288868054836245600917748359472427226420903385921010946757167524879676122623873696521069071
# norm 3.073931e-15 alpha -7.759592 e 1.965e-12 rroots 3
skew: 84683252.00
c0: 356324462563708319026779851750425012404975
c1: 2708627872251538132668667055364341
c2: -236695388794833028236083479
c3: -3835247591175182113
c4: -51781310376
c5: 252
Y0: -9801421806425102632274250332258
Y1: 6297749407119391
rlim: 31800000
alim: 31800000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2820
40M 2845
60M 2423
80M 1766
[/code]

Recommend giving special Q on algebraic side from 20M-70M.

jyb 2018-10-31 17:01

[B]QUEUED AS 6_329m5_329[/B]

SNFS C211 HCN (6-5,329), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 5168200893114141969465095616636432429245875665495327446331254537551796047858530632154044658120598182559056554659626215712111121421046862252493957028810639556400398475494460398909582166511550167521425617620341547
# 6^329-5^329, difficulty: 219.44, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -710542735760100185871124267578125
Y0: 3742042951225759540014535187298779136
rlim: 31800000
alim: 31800000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 15928
40M 12783
60M 10184
80M 8769
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side from 20M-80M.

jyb 2018-10-31 17:03

[B]QUEUED AS 6_329plus5_329[/B]

SNFS C199 HCN (6+5,329), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 4037339532887506735908702439291406936571798410030472876032766267298286050230442511494810292214940471410113301707607466855907616918284727718397630015056345870461052802135113632880374005109272724139147
# 6^329+5^329, difficulty: 219.44, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: -1
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -710542735760100185871124267578125
Y0: 3742042951225759540014535187298779136
rlim: 31800000
alim: 31800000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 15960
40M 12809
60M 10224
80M 8634
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side from 20M-80M.

RichD 2018-10-31 18:17

[B]QUEUED AS 39619_47m1[/B]

C212 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3193.
[CODE]n: 31883970749628747827314743378813682679804702869730452614329545818724779236589480090230576844363990928298294483569073821990679883896136255577533496381293331520163303806520660058599672988727149130675904480579132341
# 39619^47-1, difficulty: 220.70, skewness: 5.84, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 8.14963e+17, est. time: 388.08 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.839
c6: 1
c0: -39619
Y1: -1
Y0: 6070550503500811635081460618505358241
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 85
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 3.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 12M.
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 9949
20M 8849
40M 6916
60M 5424[/CODE]

VBCurtis 2018-11-01 01:12

May I have 10MQ added to 13_2_867m1? Up to 315M last Q.
Either my estimates were off, or the server belch lost a few relations. 610M on 861 is not enough for density 120, so I'm aiming for 620-625M on 867.

swellman: Done.

swellman 2018-11-01 01:46

[QUOTE=jyb;499171][B]QUEUED AS 7_355m2_355[/B]

GNFS C158 HCN (7-2,355), ECM to t55. For 14e.

[code]
n: 22795329870195321077005339925744314618878566620985708492968838828506288868054836245600917748359472427226420903385921010946757167524879676122623873696521069071
# norm 3.073931e-15 alpha -7.759592 e 1.965e-12 rroots 3
skew: 84683252.00
c0: 356324462563708319026779851750425012404975
c1: 2708627872251538132668667055364341
c2: -236695388794833028236083479
c3: -3835247591175182113
c4: -51781310376
c5: 252
Y0: -9801421806425102632274250332258
Y1: 6297749407119391
rlim: 31800000
alim: 31800000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2820
40M 2845
60M 2423
80M 1766
[/code]

Recommend giving special Q on algebraic side from 20M-70M.[/QUOTE]

Did you really intend the values for r/alim to be 31.8M? Historically these should considerably higher on a 30-bit job.

debrouxl 2018-11-01 11:20

Yeah, we often used 60M, or 2^26-1, for these jobs.

jyb 2018-11-01 18:41

[QUOTE=swellman;499212]Did you really intend the values for r/alim to be 31.8M? Historically these should considerably higher on a 30-bit job.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps so. I didn't do this out of any particular planning, it was just ignorance. I had initially looked at making these 29-bit jobs. When I changed them to 30-bit I didn't change those limits.

However, my test sieving suggests that these jobs should complete quickly and without any problems. Is that a fair statement?

And just for my edification, if the limits had been set to more common (i.e. larger) values for 30-bit jobs, would the following statements be correct?

1) For a given range of spec-Q, sieving would give a higher yield.
2) For a given range of spec-Q, sieving would take a little bit more time.
3) Post-processing would take longer.

I assume that the gains from #1 would outweigh the losses from #2, so over all sieving would be faster. OTOH, with a small job like this perhaps it's worth slightly longer sieving if it means shorter post-processing. Thoughts?

VBCurtis 2018-11-01 20:19

[QUOTE=jyb;499281]However, my test sieving suggests that these jobs should complete quickly and without any problems. Is that a fair statement?

And just for my edification, if the limits had been set to more common (i.e. larger) values for 30-bit jobs, would the following statements be correct?

1) For a given range of spec-Q, sieving would give a higher yield.
2) For a given range of spec-Q, sieving would take a little bit more time.
3) Post-processing would take longer.

I assume that the gains from #1 would outweigh the losses from #2, so over all sieving would be faster. OTOH, with a small job like this perhaps it's worth slightly longer sieving if it means shorter post-processing. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

The jobs should indeed complete without any problems.
My experience with your statements:
1) Yep. Higher lim's = higher yield.
2) Likely not; I choose lim's to minimize total sieving time. If we assume the "usual" lim choices are fastest, then running a job at half these usual lims is likely a fair bit slower (say, 5-15% of total job time). However, I'm not convinced the "usual" lim choices are fastest, so your choices might not be slower.
EDIT: you said "for a given spQ range." Even if two sets of lim's have the same sec/rel time, trivially the set that produces more relations per Q will take more time over the same spQ range. However, we wouldn't need to sieve the same range....
3) I thought it was true that for a given job, higher lim's -> larger matrix, but it seems that effect is quite small compared to the amount of oversieving. Jobs vary so much in the fraction of raw relations that are unique that matrices also vary quite a lot even for two jobs of the same difficulty and same number of raw relations gathered, obfuscating the effect of lim choice.

I've advocated for larger LP than the old standards, and your test sieve showed high yield throughout the necessary sieve range, so the parameter choices are fine. That is, there is no harm in leaving everything standard for 29LP, yet using 30LP.

I think the main danger with very small lim's is that yield tends to fall off sharply when sieving Q higher than 2 * lim. Test-sieving will show how bad that effect is, but the idea is that sometimes things happen (such as bad data or a cheater fouling a range of spQ) that force us to sieve 20-25% higher Q than expected; using looser lim's means yield will usually stay useful up there.

jyb 2018-11-01 21:32

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;499285]The jobs should indeed complete without any problems.
My experience with your statements:
1) Yep. Higher lim's = higher yield.
2) Likely not; I choose lim's to minimize total sieving time. If we assume the "usual" lim choices are fastest, then running a job at half these usual lims is likely a fair bit slower (say, 5-15% of total job time). However, I'm not convinced the "usual" lim choices are fastest, so your choices might not be slower.
EDIT: you said "for a given spQ range." Even if two sets of lim's have the same sec/rel time, trivially the set that produces more relations per Q will take more time over the same spQ range. However, we wouldn't need to sieve the same range....
3) I thought it was true that for a given job, higher lim's -> larger matrix, but it seems that effect is quite small compared to the amount of oversieving. Jobs vary so much in the fraction of raw relations that are unique that matrices also vary quite a lot even for two jobs of the same difficulty and same number of raw relations gathered, obfuscating the effect of lim choice.

I've advocated for larger LP than the old standards, and your test sieve showed high yield throughout the necessary sieve range, so the parameter choices are fine. That is, there is no harm in leaving everything standard for 29LP, yet using 30LP.

I think the main danger with very small lim's is that yield tends to fall off sharply when sieving Q higher than 2 * lim. Test-sieving will show how bad that effect is, but the idea is that sometimes things happen (such as bad data or a cheater fouling a range of spQ) that force us to sieve 20-25% higher Q than expected; using looser lim's means yield will usually stay useful up there.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the comprehensive response. With regard to #2, as you said in your edit I was talking about the time for a given range of special-Q. And quite apart from the increased number of relations, my understanding of sieving (which could be wrong) is that a larger factor base means more primes/prime powers that have to be processed, so it will be slower than a smaller FB. As I said, I would expect that effect to be more than offset by the gains made in having a higher yield.

unconnected 2018-11-02 15:04

[B]QUEUED AS C157_159978_10275[/B]

C157 from alq sequence 159978:10275

[CODE]n: 8081285760208310204291706443628266591168613003567359363504960559087346241954627417585003114058953502037632067209601867091762546813378282164264065807923255339
skew: 3070217.79
c0: 175947466117145166193092360466457185125
c1: -508125547799747739159066433748748
c2: 230984168919653186908140577
c3: 202428535974405957022
c4: -3060871737188
c5: 762960
Y0: -1603230175384897239642052052968
Y1: 641890352689791023
rlim: 33500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs
[/CODE]


Suggested sieving range 10M-45M.

jyb 2018-11-03 07:34

So after all that talk about the low factor base limits for 7_355m2_355, and how they would be okay, something definitely seems to be wrong with its sieving. The yield appears to be way less than the test sieving suggested it should be. But I don't think it has anything to do with those limits. The server is showing 0% of the work units have been pushed, which makes no sense to me. What exactly is going on with this number on the server?

Is this something that can be looked at by any of the queue managers, or does Greg have to kick something on the server?

swellman 2018-11-03 12:58

[QUOTE=jyb;499417]So after all that talk about the low factor base limits for 7_355m2_355, and how they would be okay, something definitely seems to be wrong with its sieving. The yield appears to be way less than the test sieving suggested it should be. But I don't think it has anything to do with those limits. The server is showing 0% of the work units have been pushed, which makes no sense to me. What exactly is going on with this number on the server?

Is this something that can be looked at by any of the queue managers, or does Greg have to kick something on the server?[/QUOTE]

Think it’s a Greg issue. I noticed the 0% pushed issued right away but it seems to have generated relations. Don’t see anything wrong with the poly, and I did remember to add the line “lss: 0” for sieving on the -a side.

The siever is now calling for max Q = 126M but that may be erroneous. Suggest we wait for the job to finish and someone try to postprocess it.

jyb 2018-11-04 08:59

[B]QUEUED AS 6_323plus5_323[/B]

SNFS C189 HCN (6+5,323), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 334841807936993419815166147191106280656257579861470657177324718740176325691199596325696738131059961418662863319905098185654890948048260438026322102300540217401434384222408072466971654420059
# 6^323+5^323, difficulty: 252.82, skewness: 1.03, alpha: 0.00
skew: 1.031
c6: 5
c0: 6
Y1: -55511151231257827021181583404541015625
Y0: 1047532535594334222593508922191671036215296
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 7931
60M 6621
100M 6142
140M 5271
180M 4692
220M 4519
260M 4629
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M-250M.

unconnected 2018-11-04 17:49

[B]QUEUED AS C162_11040_10096[/B]

C162 from alq sequence 11040:10096 is ready for nfs on 14e.
[CODE]n: 840262227876293579886574557266492685831186567489001894166659103037154601214059790428540602347015436123839432261708377101647050408251354435017240871972779082675319
skew: 2872635.03
c0: 54825813603411271742102226828295462179
c1: -84373934389489842750879873636257
c2: -14627911453786129965178136
c3: 37526809733805697447
c4: 3912899003247
c5: 287820
Y0: -19636259397913087451700545099780
Y1: 231426362666241001
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs
[/CODE]


Suggesting sieve range 20M-90M. I'll take LA.

RichD 2018-11-04 23:26

[B]QUEUED AS 3109_61m1[/B]

C207 from the MWRB file with OPN weight 2578.
[CODE]n: 197103660669395653858912094640744101201235700706589229524929736924897933443162855407929724202977179654206774116494201399945859219091696296204383126635688421371232492950162836173550272589626776986795773240771
# 3109^61-1, difficulty: 213.05, skewness: 0.20, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 4.3141e+17, est. time: 205.43 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.200
c5: 3109
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 815546380333893232173936367759057305251281
type: snfs
rlim: 16500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 9539
20M 9212
40M 7536
50M 6717[/CODE]

jyb 2018-11-05 19:34

[B]QUEUED AS 12m7_777L[/B]

SNFS-242.1 C210 HCN (12-7,777L), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 116732847208888762646963427290110267287854941721333595770790829133614026002568170638886140213765182020681359615445968146346601070424615914653950041009308053488824075764211539201865011370223962513279217531457507
skew: 1.3093
c6: 343
c5: -2058
c4: 2352
c3: 7056
c2: -18144
c1: 12096
c0: -1728
Y1: 303476585554067369725285564806070272
Y0: -8505622518383218065593705986567993605799
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 10613
60M 8269
100M 7741
140M 6315
180M 5701
220M 5600
260M 5444
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M-180M.

It's probably worth normalizing the naming of HCNs in the queue, since it will get a little more complicated with Aurifeuillian factors like this one. If you're trying to avoid characters that don't go well in filenames, it could be something like these examples:

7m2_355
6p5_329
12m7_777L
12m7_777M

jyb 2018-11-05 20:16

[B]QUEUED AS 12m7_777M[/B]

SNFS-242.1 C216 HCN (12-7,777M), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 187356213175485563572087491162748918302681858467960231508450671807836347082558073395119158974499741707074447491578279478766847980388353841950999327822563484845429930836444946763187092370205109735543634093382332759171
skew: 1.3093
c6: 343
c5: 2058
c4: 2352
c3: -7056
c2: -18144
c1: -12096
c0: -1728
Y1: 303476585554067369725285564806070272
Y0: -8505622518383218065593705986567993605799
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 10742
60M 8293
100M 7699
140M 6396
180M 5720
220M 5524
260M 5382
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M-180M.

RichD 2018-11-05 22:55

[B]QUEUED AS 462426329856656881_13m1[/B]

C211 from the MWRB file with OPN weight 2485.
[CODE]n: 7354739551459221255300095574985904918730650549192434057436557077055622486341541854304749204844237794843430598329362031754639333388124614048687377547005946482339053511535406218115999410941986198485937869504498081
# 462426329856656881^13-1, difficulty: 211.98, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10
# cost: 3.94278e+17, est. time: 187.75 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: -5
c3: -4
c2: 6
c1: 3
c0: -1
Y1: -462426329856656881
Y0: 213838110544697635120700709764648162
type: snfs
rlim: 16500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 12M.
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 14166
20M 12472
40M 9124[/CODE]

swellman 2018-11-06 02:56

C157_159978_10275 - Need more relations?
 
Does this need a bit more Q?

unconnected 2018-11-06 06:03

[QUOTE=swellman;499698]Does this need a bit more Q?[/QUOTE]


Yes, 5MQ would be enough. And please +10MQ to the C162_11040_10096.

jyb 2018-11-06 18:20

[QUOTE=swellman;499454]Think it’s a Greg issue. I noticed the 0% pushed issued right away but it seems to have generated relations. Don’t see anything wrong with the poly, and I did remember to add the line “lss: 0” for sieving on the -a side.

The siever is now calling for max Q = 126M but that may be erroneous. Suggest we wait for the job to finish and someone try to postprocess it.[/QUOTE]

There's definitely something weird going on with this number. The status page is now showing 2.33% of work units have been generated, which makes no sense given that the alleged number of them received is already greater than the total should be.

But stranger still, the polynomial as you entered it in the manager page does indeed have "lss: 0" in it; but the .poly file available for download on the nfs_data page does [I]not[/I] have that. And indeed some number of the relations in the .dat.gz file appear to have sieved special-Q on the rational side. The first few lines look like this:
[code]
-56871830813,747:a015a2f,1457081,9773d5,8d505,56e7f:379c187,71f,15a6c63,1329007,ed3b3,200c3,20407,bdef
49950488977,2401:4fcee3f,1457081,943,2bfff9,29d7:170fdc3b,3c3f3005,b6f,3f5,12d4c75,26623,32acd9,23f9f5
69230179021,847:1a6e767b,1457081,11c97fb,854d1,4357:17c9a1df,510a949,b4c2db,199f9,17711,13c88b,3cc7
[/code]
Note the rational factor in each of them: 0x1457081, which is 21328001. However the last few lines of the data file contain this:
[code]
10752495169,6957:44857C3,923,6BB,4E1,D2B8F,4957D:C724075,1FA5533B,F7E05B,35DACF,E78B3,3E0FF,142827D
-119542032011,3257:2AA15193,44F9AB3,773,34DA1,10489:2DB23C9,6944EC7,CCCB5,5672B,142827D
50948844409,4119:3C16A2FF,949,96D799,6527CB,258D:1C20ACAB,312DCA93,1C81,8D8749,5ACC17,37FC1F,142827D
[/code]
Here the common factor is in the algebraic set: 0x142827D == 21135997.

In any case, I see that you've reserved this number for post-processing (though I think you posted that in the wrong thread), so I'll be interested to see what you find. Even if the relations were all valid, there don't seem to be nearly enough of them yet.

swellman 2018-11-06 23:29

[QUOTE=jyb;499753]There's definitely something weird going on with this number. The status page is now showing 2.33% of work units have been generated, which makes no sense given that the alleged number of them received is already greater than the total should be.

But stranger still, the polynomial as you entered it in the manager page does indeed have "lss: 0" in it; but the .poly file available for download on the nfs_data page does [I]not[/I] have that. And indeed some number of the relations in the .dat.gz file appear to have sieved special-Q on the rational side. The first few lines look like this:
[code]
-56871830813,747:a015a2f,1457081,9773d5,8d505,56e7f:379c187,71f,15a6c63,1329007,ed3b3,200c3,20407,bdef
49950488977,2401:4fcee3f,1457081,943,2bfff9,29d7:170fdc3b,3c3f3005,b6f,3f5,12d4c75,26623,32acd9,23f9f5
69230179021,847:1a6e767b,1457081,11c97fb,854d1,4357:17c9a1df,510a949,b4c2db,199f9,17711,13c88b,3cc7
[/code]
Note the rational factor in each of them: 0x1457081, which is 21328001. However the last few lines of the data file contain this:
[code]
10752495169,6957:44857C3,923,6BB,4E1,D2B8F,4957D:C724075,1FA5533B,F7E05B,35DACF,E78B3,3E0FF,142827D
-119542032011,3257:2AA15193,44F9AB3,773,34DA1,10489:2DB23C9,6944EC7,CCCB5,5672B,142827D
50948844409,4119:3C16A2FF,949,96D799,6527CB,258D:1C20ACAB,312DCA93,1C81,8D8749,5ACC17,37FC1F,142827D
[/code]
Here the common factor is in the algebraic set: 0x142827D == 21135997.

In any case, I see that you've reserved this number for post-processing (though I think you posted that in the wrong thread), so I'll be interested to see what you find. Even if the relations were all valid, there don't seem to be nearly enough of them yet.[/QUOTE]

Well I can kill this job and restart it fresh. Not expecting it to actually build, but curious if any valid relations exist in the data file. I’ll download it tomorrow and post the resulting log file. If it’s junk, I’ll delete it and start over.

swellman 2018-11-08 02:45

7_355m2_355 Hopelessly broken
 
Tried downloading this data file and found it totally FUBAR.

Before the job is killed, the poly file currently being sieved on 14e is reproduced here for reference:
[code]
n: 22795329870195321077005339925744314618878566620985708492968838828506288868054836245600917748359472427226420903385921010946757167524879676122623873696521069071
# norm 3.073931e-15 alpha -7.759592 e 1.965e-12 rroots 3
skew: 84683252.00
lss: 0
c0: 356324462563708319026779851750425012404975
c1: 2708627872251538132668667055364341
c2: -236695388794833028236083479
c3: -3835247591175182113
c4: -51781310376
c5: 252
Y0: -9801421806425102632274250332258
Y1: 6297749407119391
rlim: 31800000
alim: 31800000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

I suggest r/alim be raised to 67M. Anything else to be changed?

jyb 2018-11-08 04:24

[QUOTE=swellman;499869]Tried downloading this data file and found it totally FUBAR.

Before the job is killed, the poly file currently being sieved on 14e is reproduced here for reference:
[code]
n: 22795329870195321077005339925744314618878566620985708492968838828506288868054836245600917748359472427226420903385921010946757167524879676122623873696521069071
# norm 3.073931e-15 alpha -7.759592 e 1.965e-12 rroots 3
skew: 84683252.00
lss: 0
c0: 356324462563708319026779851750425012404975
c1: 2708627872251538132668667055364341
c2: -236695388794833028236083479
c3: -3835247591175182113
c4: -51781310376
c5: 252
Y0: -9801421806425102632274250332258
Y1: 6297749407119391
rlim: 31800000
alim: 31800000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

I suggest r/alim be raised to 67M. Anything else to be changed?[/QUOTE]

Looks fine to me.

VBCurtis 2018-11-08 07:42

[QUOTE=swellman;499869]Tried downloading this data file and found it totally FUBAR.

Before the job is killed, the poly file currently being sieved on 14e is reproduced here for reference:
[code]
# norm 3.073931e-15 alpha -7.759592 e 1.965e-12 rroots 3
skew: 84683252.00
.....
c5: 252
...
rlim: 31800000
alim: 31800000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]

I suggest r/alim be raised to 67M. Anything else to be changed?[/QUOTE]

The super-low c5 and super-high skew may contribute to sieving difficulties. I wager this poly sieves quite a bit worse than its score would suggest, but that shouldn't make a rels file useless on its own. I was interested to see what sort of matrix this parameter set produced, and I'm sad the rels file failed us.
Test-sieving was done, and if it wasn't done on different settings we have reason to think this may have been related to the server burp last week, or another bad actor sending faked data for boinc credits (or whatever it is that occasionally causes a few million rels to be bad in these jobs).

jyb 2018-11-08 07:55

[QUOTE=VBCurtis;499880]The super-low c5 and super-high skew may contribute to sieving difficulties. I wager this poly sieves quite a bit worse than its score would suggest, but that shouldn't make a rels file useless on its own. I was interested to see what sort of matrix this parameter set produced, and I'm sad the rels file failed us.
Test-sieving was done, and if it wasn't done on different settings we have reason to think this may have been related to the server burp last week, or another bad actor sending faked data for boinc credits (or whatever it is that occasionally causes a few million rels to be bad in these jobs).[/QUOTE]

Large skew aside, the test sieving should really be dispositive here. There's no reason this shouldn't have worked fine. After all, the yields were quite high. My money is on a server-side issue of some sort.

swellman 2018-11-08 12:23

7_355m2_355_B
 
I’ve submitted this job afresh, so let’s see what happens. Leaving the old job in queue for the time being, in case further investigation is desired.

jyb 2018-11-09 00:21

[B]QUEUED AS 9p2_574M[/B]

SNFS-235.6 C193 HCN (9+2,574M), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 1015118427762432145585256475977208967931967049001687465117734148301497677430505658136809399398115747470750604265258195157430679812175238530495171963177758998271333376916873964485468552102952297
skew: 2.121320
c6: 8
c5: -24
c4: -180
c3: 540
c2: 648
c1: -1944
c0: 729
Y1: 25496472432792156348874752
Y0: -1330279464729113309844748894056472933961
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 5K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 8056
50M 6333
80M 5301
110M 5190
140M 4232
170M 3985
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 150M.

RichD 2018-11-09 13:46

[B]QUEUED AS 230329301_29m1[/B]

C199 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_29(Phi_5(4933)/11/31/7541)/59/978624547/406534500451/51433290893203 ]
[CODE]n: 1158690572480178273500211173099837719117014526580068453604221599691668416907034643088813970163254526076907140314862581224882803593087176003926408882696904959666870517137449980129350839004533132112941
# 230329301^29-1, difficulty: 250.87, skewness: 24.76, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 8.87422e+18, est. time: 4225.82 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 24.759
c6: 1
c0: -230329301
Y1: -1
Y0: 648255108751911581087513909949143606546501
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 94
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 30M.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 9851
60M 8197
100M 8100
200M 6450
300M 5898
400M 4783[/CODE]

jyb 2018-11-10 17:22

[B]QUEUED AS 6p5_326[/B]

SNFS-253.7 C233 HCN (6+5,326), ECM to t55. For 14e.
[code]
n: 32633890604476722836293726701434167694704684066646631809463792546362103582687969998612491002354698295698993728209564169664603949303016839132198214325880218295524716618364443646835480022496851027673860362151953005253743108182876857233
# 6^326+5^326, difficulty: 253.68, skewness: 0.94, alpha: 0.00
skew: 0.941
c6: 36
c0: 25
Y1: -55511151231257827021181583404541015625
Y0: 1047532535594334222593508922191671036215296
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 2888
60M 2083
100M 1930
140M 1963
180M 1594
220M 1512
260M 1824
300M 1451
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 260M.

jyb 2018-11-10 19:41

[B]QUEUED AS 4p3_1179L[/B]

SNFS-236.6 C203 HCN (4+3,1179L), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 10779550177796147873905569825090259764533041333796337264081062130575637572632598050310184153556025683012110719455296821636788189772661998209306791869478761129353264251639875433282938833406467048777605331
skew: .866
c6: 64
c3: -72
c0: 27
Y1: 10301051460877537453973547267843
Y0: -1361129467683753853853498429727072845824
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 1831
50M 1276
80M 895
110M 906
140M 790
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 140M.

jyb 2018-11-11 18:52

[B]QUEUED AS 4p3_1173M[/B]

SNFS-236.5 C212 HCN (4+3,1173M), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 19376266170646083133166356633932789015207639080512453563268089934137631864600956694384355045443371455874947530855513011000365043497072565453526129111779229658354064355768399025163144644857022482141260319926920491
skew: .95318
c6: 4
c3: 6
c0: 3
Y1: 10301051460877537453973547267843
Y0: -1361129467683753853853498429727072845824
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 5647
50M 4104
80M 3244
110M 3540
140M 2708
170M 2540
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 100M.

richs 2018-11-12 22:21

C177 Aliquot
 
[B]QUEUED AS C177_829332_3673[/B]

GNFS C177 from Aliquot sequence 829332, i3673. ECM to t60+. For 14e.

[CODE]n: 639111216358462045637168830728405128749985350094829375210689250206054960606354216550069158398935019911265433918994329538741608563810754728407214426139578313402397468065625568789
skew: 170956290.61
c0: -39055932406289100622744897384943641120487496
c1: 398311238184438913392391141505351166
c2: 7986264442571293629213532509
c3: -149813793285782376446
c4: -274743467312
c5: 1704
Y0: -51858669483073091346656614633835963
Y1: 938918903038993937
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8[/CODE]

Trial sieving 5k blocks:

[CODE] Q Yield
---- -----
15M 8749
20M 9103
60M 7947
100M 7394
140M 6334
180M 5617
220M 5531[/CODE]

jyb 2018-11-13 04:52

[B]QUEUED AS 4p3_1179M[/B]

SNFS-236.6 C228 HCN (4+3,1179M), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 159085957338898920728077660487439481394300398699377531400055338811418836600267650922789009132277935405514042252123922775141833613528241799290182947634462698245337255088276767769299078836089673885958483599973612072847674262255809
skew: .866
c6: 64
c3: 72
c0: 27
Y1: 10301051460877537453973547267843
Y0: -1361129467683753853853498429727072845824
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 1K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 1771
50M 1323
80M 902
110M 949
140M 829
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 140M.

VBCurtis 2018-11-14 02:29

[B]QUEUED AS 13_2_869m[/B]

13*2^869-1 is ready for 14e queue: (suggested name 13_2_869m)
[code]n: 520279287310556715182665070653669803874096318187510955279305263665663629586019027043718502895915160788575321963072010030060296197255989023612103256320736641547334641732383222459304234928007472178116860160143680574240265325494225937
skew: 0.73
type: snfs
size: 264
c6: 13
c0: -2
Y1: -1
Y0: 44601490397061246283071436545296723011960832
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 33
mfbr: 93
mfba: 65
rlambda: 3.9
alambda: 2.7[/code]
Suggested Q-range is 20-275M to yield ~630M relations: (Q-ranges of 1k tested)
[code]Q=20M 0.106 sec/rel, 5191 rels
Q=50M 0.136 sec/rel, 3460 rels
Q=80M 0.151 sec/rel, 2680 rels
Q=110M 0.175 sec/rel, 2586 rels
Q=140M 0.192 sec/rel, 2222 rels
Q=170M 0.202 sec/rel, 1689 rels
Q=200M 0.204 sec/rel, 2108 rels
Q=230M 0.208 sec/rel, 1984 rels
Q=260M 0.228 sec/rel, 2011 rels[/code]
I would like to handle the post-processing.

RichD 2018-11-14 14:50

[B]QUEUED AS 40253_47m1[/B]

C221 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 2998.
[CODE]n: 66180560318325995375778416377844011366559998343812672320229596024996252477892611134464981630226075423885261204544787910510791182534449351664859357218221133567412014957639809892685073711895469988760408424603827643
# 40253^47-1, difficulty: 221.03, skewness: 5.85, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 8.3745e+17, est. time: 398.79 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.854
c6: 1
c0: -40253
Y1: -1
Y0: 6892646826590552814288956902982470561
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 12791
60M 8043
90M 7245[/CODE]

swellman 2018-11-15 12:01

[B]QUEUED[/B]

C249_127_117 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 207636992011460225440264451373318985570062771162520338779363406390447935542488128440098855144651740848698669987941314566368204948380520415098954475635548527215793150794439666077835667166944297972581777106478283503871054385381605270780834918004776473
# 127^117+117^127, difficulty: 264.73, anorm: 3.10e+040, rnorm: 1.20e+049
# scaled difficulty: 266.16, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 1.126e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 2.479e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 264
skew: 5.0957
c6: 117
c0: 2048383
Y1: -9381465766970461872264625493558368225663
Y0: 27033551021470087806679878288841875415489317
rlim: 268000000
alim: 400000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]

Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 9368
Q=90M 8339
Q=150M 7286
Q=250M 6084
Q=350M 5919
Q=420M 5394
[/code]
Suggesting a range for Q of 40-380M.

jyb 2018-11-15 15:55

[B]QUEUED AS 5p2_392[/B]

SNFS-234.9 C201 HCN (5+2,392), ECM to t52+. For 14e.
[code]
n: 371202420955127570749140712092346141301794784062153761525426663252044867721758414366766645514127009762082464179231853270051777298719615503038434651826272498074405965884397246662378536059848300876584609
# 5^392+2^392, difficulty: 234.85, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: -1
c4: 1
c3: -1
c2: 1
c1: -1
c0: 1
Y1: -72057594037927936
Y0: 1387778780781445675529539585113525390625
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]
Trial sieving 3K blocks:
[code]
Q Yield
--- -----
20M 5145
50M 3788
80M 3195
110M 3402
140M 2648
170M 2362
[/code]
Recommend sieving special Q on rational side, 20M - 120M.

VBCurtis 2018-11-16 06:06

[B]QUEUED AS 13_2_870m1[/B]

13*2^870-1 is ready for 15e queue:
[code]n: 29654244361968776510343597929878620614568565488392364027044983656654605290410079317183710342672221296580343330205305810700328990144331411272353452550162896479162065651867991705687127234398045076512506541863892377929862397427
skew: 0.65
type: snfs
c6: 13
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 44601490397061246283071436545296723011960832
rlim: 134000000
alim: 200000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 93
mfba: 64
rlambda: 3.9
alambda: 2.7[/code]

Suggested Q-range of 20M-133M for ~435M rels:
[code]Q=20M 0.132 sec/rel, 6541 rels
Q=40M 0.155 sec/rel, 4776 rels
Q=60M 0.163 sec/rel, 3783 rels
Q=80M 0.170 sec/rel, 3408 rels
Q=100M 0.183 sec/rel, 3356 rels
Q=120M 0.210 sec/rel, 3007 rels[/code]
I would like to handle the matrix.

RichD 2018-11-16 07:29

[B]QUEUED AS C174_4788_12516[/B]

C174 from AS 4788:i12516 for 14e.
[CODE]n: 432054057707546289745745850509961246895462293038630183477632760475717205695339416569916789360524301370143054612854797829090829816051175921481941940556514625531219342513676569
lss: 0
Y0: -5282339853996656000799945169572411
Y1: 41027611631674261
c0: -9030191800256244823254102410923452635332532
c1: 1423791830265528524703623617571742509
c2: 65952472879170808520938423229
c3: -2754956346725120046821
c4: -44427692793819
c5: 420210
skew: 41062699.33
type: gnfs
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
Note: Request starting Q0 @ 30M.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 11890
60M 10379
100M 11125
200M 11775
250M 10935[/CODE]

RichD 2018-11-16 20:29

[B]QUEUED AS 39103_53m1[/B]

C209 from the OPN t600 file.
[CODE]n: 92654134913360491523576511576097831300932452556068062363424898163503183135707637215109727269696425458160561097384117420665603419049415912476435761479399347325090318375000671301450141773804729961210361893033443
# 39103^53-1, difficulty: 247.98, skewness: 5.83, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.11403e+18, est. time: 3387.64 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.826
c6: 1
c0: -39103
Y1: -1
Y0: 213742409823321724903524694332356533755583
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 11781
60M 9381
100M 8319
150M 6824
200M 6339[/CODE]

RichD 2018-11-17 11:15

[B]QUEUED AS 19441_53m1[/B]

C218 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3061.
[CODE]n: 47390658491352432980630666760313608257645026965538634981289424085279583256181066771197441148134242910125480828061426993620476118548225661749504869536960978655626071231897605827112047307824957971217882109445017802368567
# 19441^53-1, difficulty: 231.59, skewness: 5.19, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 1.97126e+18, est. time: 938.69 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.185
c6: 1
c0: -19441
Y1: -1
Y0: 396704751653385563686166481020948680561
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 9933
60M 6721
100M 5693[/CODE]

unconnected 2018-11-17 14:10

C159 from aliquot sequence 159978:i10277 for 14e queue


[CODE]n: 392212928451893112422395514054291197456796380387871750407642680992335674617798450428961319743893530522130688209072398674153942627140332918326023258435461289201
skew: 15672272.77
c0: -1870980917894567131545998747335089085695
c1: 53177363035187336715122030853062
c2: -464537550388389835332274367
c3: -93022555118174912580
c4: 2963491069464
c5: 31320
Y0: -6599940235846599006681131546404
Y1: 22036247870799209
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs

[/CODE]


Suggesting sieve range 10M-70M.

debrouxl 2018-11-17 16:09

Queued as C159_159978_10277, though not yet started.

pinhodecarlos 2018-11-18 17:29

Can you please increase the sieve upper bound of 5p2_392 to 130M. Thank you.

debrouxl 2018-11-18 17:40

Why not, but with an upper bound of 120M, the forecast is already 125M raw relations :smile:

pinhodecarlos 2018-11-18 18:10

[QUOTE=debrouxl;500456]Why not, but with an upper bound of 120M, the forecast is already 125M raw relations :smile:[/QUOTE]

Don’t forget about the rate of duplicates. Thank you.

RichD 2018-11-20 01:06

[B]QUEUED AS 28051_53m1[/B]

C232 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 3964.
[CODE]n: 1964850846213427570725573830781619110817487853359166420265659666059804506017677719878365119488677847445509141551525133730707024033260173550042027665567734219751740827590654964951993828309240135652838306792562851337810590107058392953
# 28051^53-1, difficulty: 240.19, skewness: 5.51, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.89062e+18, est. time: 1852.68 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.512
c6: 1
c0: -28051
Y1: -1
Y0: 10753135878746888741493157318231538142451
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 13778
60M 10581
100M 9215
150M 7885[/CODE]


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