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RichD 2018-05-02 22:11

Here is the corrected one
 
[b]QUEUED AS C205_505xx471_13[/b] C205 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_5(Phi_23(3)/47)/181/1099298734488491)/20420063/3286872312959 ]
[CODE]n: 4162523490517414235416070757031338005103995603020975474083868299260843991005474552044950506822829565255038523518227661496692159082364425915400415333686055204755468318195383897315641655630759908023921707969
# 5056496574263951471^13-1, difficulty: 224.45, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10
# cost: 1.10754e+18, est. time: 527.40 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: -5
c3: -4
c2: 6
c1: 3
c0: -1
Y1: -5056496574263951471
Y0: 25568157605543076893697191087043063842
# Y1: -p
# Y0: p^2 + 1
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 15131
50M 11637
80M 9267[/CODE]

swellman 2018-05-03 20:37

Last 14e from me
 
[b]QUEUED[/b] C229_151_42 is ready for SNFS on 14e. Last 14e in my stores.
[code]
n: 1102417068447110828974330387319614606833947746041503077867648379042331914001941722688011464435548663098126330974444255295476735778999607110151139584098525740184596427948553032403054613968391022558764428920771666069942700842508993
type: snfs
size: 245
skew: 1.86441
c0: 42
c6: 1
Y1: 38126967124946768663101433365298971410432
Y0: -1789940649848551
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=20M 11483
Q=80M 8730
Q=150M 6265
Q=250M 4660
Q=350M 4104
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range of 20M-400M with a target number of relations = 460M.

RichD 2018-05-06 20:40

[b]QUEUED AS C169_262209281_31[/b]
C169 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_31(Phi_5(127))/1684564752571/<p34>/<p39> ]
[CODE]n: 1602344215715486049030337835531675427138273373409637193362650483190941376089947810074224147224185949648428304886141773687524019103522882994167908331021731524505813048177
# 262209281^31-1
lss: 0
Y0: -455859017421824967405961251418475
Y1: 20038982865322747
c0: 86366287499431301553729859592969102555136
c1: 11775432248182883926320953373216136
c2: -4260551025073661327201333442
c3: -220613419722968290875
c4: 14836844554628
c5: 81396
skew: 18236313.51
# skew 18236313.51, size 1.794e-16, alpha -6.907, combined = 4.045e-13 rroots = 5
type: gnfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 9757
60M 9460
100M 9686
150M 7202[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-07 05:20

[b]QUEUED AS C210_559xx877_5[/b] C210 from the OPN t800 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_5( lpf(Phi_7(Phi_7(306517)/7/29/82316396807)) ) ]
P54^5-1
[CODE]n: 326328190676526347076493720003871098178219009324980622542425868264110025881051817592797516470158997250296462681489236635018823336365470995327242595981074697613970555199901924670104832460271075428319813033438431
# 559759551719303749002591523885010741620369806141685877^5-1, difficulty: 214.99, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 1.45
# cost: 5.07671e+17, est. time: 241.75 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 559759551719303749002591523885010741620369806141685877
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 91
mfba: 61
rlambda: 3.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 12245
60M 13528
100M 13493
140M 11438[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-09 14:06

[b]QUEUED AS C222_44611351_31[/b]
C222 from the OPN t600 file.
[CODE]n: 287365028743405824623255863898138689527490593670039131118204482598458927361673845509437257263424964546528010306328200300090560518005630973488670210662174901589176952403223455161841490021892792338544267528241747062790866833
# 44611351^31-1, difficulty: 237
c6: 44611351
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 176696064858085059827538819630533781751
skew: 0.0531
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 10444
60M 7981
100M 7552
140M 6399
180M 5640[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-09 15:00

C169 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_17(29)/59/7193/6088087)/2838104822939/13632106906989216449/196115055169713411799 ]
[CODE]n: 6115835628375776102003377012361407931649309096350121391599163233107317922438162982008536058915657373539056454011820512445301012677401122742125453898735979949335695572959
# 11658852700685942029849^11-1, difficulty: 220.67, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.22
# cost: 8.12766e+17, est. time: 387.03 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: -4
c2: -3
c1: 3
c0: 1
Y1: -11658852700685942029849
Y0: 135928846296291884173967504952913366406962802
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 59
mfba: 59
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 15144
50M 14639
80M 13022[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-09 15:30

[QUOTE=RichD;487281]C169 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_17(29)/59/7193/6088087)/2838104822939/13632106906989216449/196115055169713411799 ][/QUOTE]

Let me retract this one. Something doesn't look quite right with the above poly.
I think I started to perform some testing late last night. When I got up this morning I saw I needed two more regions of sieving and forgot I was still in test mode.

RichD 2018-05-10 02:19

Corrected
 
[b]QUEUED AS C169_116xx849_11[/b]
C169 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_17(29)/59/7193/6088087)/2838104822939/13632106906989216449/196115055169713411799 ]
[CODE]n: 6115835628375776102003377012361407931649309096350121391599163233107317922438162982008536058915657373539056454011820512445301012677401122742125453898735979949335695572959
# 11658852700685942029849^11-1, difficulty: 220.67, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.22
# cost: 8.12766e+17, est. time: 387.03 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: -4
c2: -3
c1: 3
c0: 1
Y1: -11658852700685942029849
Y0: 135928846296291884173967504952913366406962802
type: snfs
rlim: 34000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 8408
20M 8602
40M 8159
50M 7540[/CODE]

swellman 2018-05-10 10:55

[QUOTE=swellman;486865][b]QUEUED[/b] C229_151_42 is ready for SNFS on 14e. Last 14e in my stores.
[code]
n: 1102417068447110828974330387319614606833947746041503077867648379042331914001941722688011464435548663098126330974444255295476735778999607110151139584098525740184596427948553032403054613968391022558764428920771666069942700842508993
type: snfs
size: 245
skew: 1.86441
c0: 42
c6: 1
Y1: 38126967124946768663101433365298971410432
Y0: -1789940649848551
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=20M 11483
Q=80M 8730
Q=150M 6265
Q=250M 4660
Q=350M 4104
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range of 20M-400M with a target number of relations = 460M.[/QUOTE]

C229_151_42 appears to producing at a prodigious yield, far greater than my test sieving results above. So high that I find 14e’s results difficult to believe.

Is there an issue with 14e? Lots of dups? Inspection of the poly file from 14e shows nothing obvious.

fivemack 2018-05-10 12:20

[QUOTE=swellman;487344]C229_151_42 appears to producing at a prodigious yield, far greater than my test sieving results above. So high that I find 14e’s results difficult to believe.

Is there an issue with 14e? Lots of dups? Inspection of the poly file from 14e shows nothing obvious.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure that your test sieving was over 5k rather than 2k ranges?

I have run

[code]
/work/math/gnfs-lasieve4I14e snfs -r -f 150000000 -c 5000
[/code]

and see 6597 relations by Q=150002063

[code]
total yield: 15968, q=150005021 (0.11933 sec/rel)
[/code]

is quite close to 5/2 of the claimed yield

swellman 2018-05-10 19:31

I think I see what may have happened - the previous job I test sieved was C167_M31_k33, a GNFS job. Test sieved on the -a side. May have then immediately used the same scripts to test sieve C229_151_42. Embarrassed apologies.

Thank you for taking this uglier than it should be job.

RichD 2018-05-11 01:42

C241 from the OPN MWRB file with OPN weight nearly 24K.
[CODE]n: 1465198448177965428772026990227075055702727441032985216293696461981941574813770882021969879133562225263889540648065878923236437280161477935898854454731228974338074953129161253134126152495378305301918303763757927109426114532655728650934645831
# 13829^59-1, difficulty: 248.45, skewness: 6.73, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 7.37407e+18, est. time: 3511.46 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 6.732
c5: 1
c0: -13829
Y1: -1
Y0: 48920323413279685134888105908255791411939427791441
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 95
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 6484
60M 7328
100M 8315
150M 7586
200M 7368
300M 6913
400M 6279[/CODE]

swellman 2018-05-11 11:43

[QUOTE=swellman;487376]I think I see what may have happened - the previous job I test sieved was C167_M31_k33, a GNFS job. Test sieved on the -a side. May have then immediately used the same scripts to test sieve C229_151_42. Embarrassed apologies.

Thank you for taking this uglier than it should be job.[/QUOTE]

Confirmed the above did NOT happen. Reran C229_151_42 for 5K with Q=20M on the -r side and got 11483 relations. Odd. Maybe it is machine or siever dependent? I’ll rerun the test sieving this evening on another machine/environment. All my boxes are Win64, if that matters.

RichD 2018-05-11 13:13

[b]QUEUED AS C212_157xx799_13[/b]
C212 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_31(11)/50159/2428541)/79/<p30> ]
[CODE]n: 28074502122564319908979181531967537616095668707384454473748919573561082001884566015915909261090700889679832915180616153494785635778300687649218819936786961125157204537625400997331224951086304617912441364997580901
# 157571957584602258799^13-1, difficulty: 242.37, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10
# cost: 4.612e+18, est. time: 2196.19 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: -5
c3: -4
c2: 6
c1: 3
c0: -1
Y1: -157571957584602258799
Y0: 24828921817043693312917600278892972922402
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 61
mfba: 61
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 12319
60M 10064
100M 8778
150M 6902[/CODE]

swellman 2018-05-11 18:52

[QUOTE=swellman;487408]Confirmed the above did NOT happen. Reran C229_151_42 for 5K with Q=20M on the -r side and got 11483 relations. Odd. Maybe it is machine or siever dependent? I’ll rerun the test sieving this evening on another machine/environment. All my boxes are Win64, if that matters.[/QUOTE]

Repeated this exercise on another machine with the [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=18043]
newer ggnfs sievers[/url]. Got 23767 relations on a 5K block of Q. I knew the newer sievers were faster but had never noticed such disparity in yield. Mystery solved, and I’ll not use the old sievers again!

RichD 2018-05-12 21:12

[b]QUEUED AS C202_31_173[/b]
C202 from the OPN t600 file.
[CODE]n: 2905727676062406581210143813463355281321549043490114270159566965555133147925016922068597211500273316200934979655112275928267750162727044710845265351725732582843332610215496302023194109196714634798893557
# 31^173-1, difficulty: 259.50, skewness: 1.77, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 1.70111e+19, est. time: 8100.53 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.772
c6: 1
c0: -31
Y1: -1
Y0: 17761887753093897979823770061456102763834271
type: snfs
rlim: 268000000
alim: 536000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 94
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 10818
90M 9676
150M 8316
250M 7390
350M 7003[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-14 04:38

[b]QUEUED AS C191_295xx029_13[/b]
C191 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_3(Phi_29(13)/1973/2843/3539)/3/11959/85093/79236309623407)/<p32> ]
[CODE]n: 12794062033878655457450355776266486437430348094623888074791572090516980553375503615389937683920201291889580924137859987844778415030061375032797695148998297559103483481688024256497772362510753
# 2959025653654433029^13-1, difficulty: 221.65, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10
# cost: 8.81455e+17, est. time: 419.74 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: -5
c3: -4
c2: 6
c1: 3
c0: -1
Y1: -2959025653654433029
Y0: 8755832818985044651391268463446114842
type: snfs
rlim: 17000000
alim: 34000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
6M 9836
10M 8908
20M 7450
40M 5587
50M 5081[/CODE]

kosta 2018-05-16 06:53

The best poly so far, for the C174_M127_k24, at 50% complete with CADO.
Is this good enough? Test sieving with some unoptimized param gave yield 8160 @6M, but i am not sure i did this right :-(

[CODE]
n: 94410615373218704797201510125651849712559525623382519147033843966374414757318643595714477201887765034604269728700950434464990003242159016268314282962617716190928317011619566657
Y0: -7471849389251086201749091300586895
Y1: 708649660173940995547
c0: 2621705914649230171819209755822160165162
c1: -993914513963741328984046025976199
c2: -1358186992798631904082561818
c3: 265509778204990369114
c4: -243054615251784
c5: -12161880
skew: 2530302.065
# lognorm 53.49, E 47.81, alpha -5.68 (proj -2.31), 3 real roots
# MurphyE(Bf=1.00e+07,Bg=5.00e+06,area=1.00e+16)=1.30e-13
# Average exp_E: 47.62, average E: 47.81
[/CODE]

fivemack 2018-05-16 10:48

[QUOTE=kosta;487728]The best poly so far, for the C174_M127_k24, at 50% complete with CADO.
Is this good enough?[/quote]

That looks a perfectly reasonable polynomial.

Test-sieving results are only meaningful if you list the limits and the command line used: with

[code]
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
alambda: 2.6
rlambda: 2.6
alim: 268000000
rlim: 268000000
[/code]

I get

[code]
> ./gnfs-lasieve4I14e -a M127_k24.gnfs -f 268000000 -c 999
total yield: 1638, q=268001011 (0.34965 sec/rel)
> ./gnfs-lasieve4I15e -a M127_k24.gnfs -f 268000000 -c 1000
total yield: 3824, q=268001011 (0.21752 sec/rel)
> ./gnfs-lasieve4I16e -a M127_k24.gnfs -f 268000001 -c 999
total yield: 8517, q=268001011 (0.23832 sec/rel)
[/code]

so, unless you tell me not to in the next day, I will queue this on 14e (it's much less efficient than 15e, but the queue is much shorter so it will get done quicker)

swellman 2018-05-16 10:53

C202_M127_k9 (14e)
 
[b]QUEUED[/b] C202_M127_k9 of the kosta project is ready for SNFS on 14e.
[code]
n: 1078611528011063261665723083308683342509210724018842398825848176141324035248004273162962722908536562883160145477046672970567553111696454307482900305770879880384501598803552964463666446571844148302542621
# 170141183460469231731687303715884105727^9-1, difficulty: 229.38, anorm: 3.00e+36, rnorm: 1.70e+44
# scaled difficulty: 230.68, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.709e-11, alpha = 0.000, combined = 1.314e-12, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 229
skew: 1.0000
c6: 1
c3: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 170141183460469231731687303715884105727
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 10K (using current sievers!):
[code]
Q=15M 26803
Q=25M 24541
Q=40M 21742
Q=65M 17809
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 15M-70M with a target number of relations = 120M.

kosta 2018-05-16 13:49

Much better poly was obtained with the higher root optimization setting in cado, yield is twice as good:
[CODE]
n: 944106153732187047972015101256518497125595256233825191470338439663744147573186435571447720188776503460426972870095043446499000324215901626831428296261771619092831011619566657
Y0: -7471849389251086201749091300586895
Y1: 708649660173940995547
c0: 2621705914649230171819209755822160165162
c1: -993914513963741328984046025976199
c2: -1358186992798631904082561818
c3: 265509778204990369114
c4: -243054615251784
c5: -12161880
skew: 2530302.065
# lognorm 53.49, E 47.81, alpha -5.68 (proj -2.31), 3 real roots
# MurphyE(Bf=1.00e+07,Bg=5.00e+06,area=5.37e+15)=1.93e-13
# Average exp_E: 47.62, average E: 47.81
[/CODE]

fivemack 2018-05-16 14:39

[QUOTE=kosta;487750]Much better poly was obtained with the higher root optimization setting in cado, yield is twice as good:[/quote]

This is exactly the same polynomial as before! The E value appears different because you're integrating over a different area, but all the coefficients and the skew are the same.

fivemack 2018-05-16 14:42

Also I'm a little confused that you call it c174_something when the number is of 176 digits in length

VictordeHolland 2018-05-16 15:23

[QUOTE=fivemack;487761]Also I'm a little confused that you call it c174_something when the number is of 176 digits in length[/QUOTE]
Kosta's poly has a C174 in it:
While [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000001116894880"][COLOR=#002099]((2^127-1)^24-1)/(2^127-2)[/COLOR][/URL]/factors = C176
Probably a copy/paste mistake:

[code]
C174=944106153732187047972015101256518497125595256233825191470338439663744147573186435571447720188776503460426972870095043446499000324215901626831428296261771619092831011619566657
C176=944106153732187047972015101256518497125595256233825191470338439663744147573186435[I][U][B]9[/B][/U][/I]571447720188776503460426972870095043446499000324215901626831428296261771619092831[U][I][B]7[/B][/I][/U]011619566657[/code]

fivemack 2018-05-16 15:51

Kosta's first polynomial (in [url]http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=487728&postcount=1473[/url] ) has the correct 176-digit integer, the second one (in [url]http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=487750&postcount=1476[/url] ) has the two digits missing.

Max0526 2018-05-16 21:28

C176 poly
 
[QUOTE=kosta;487728]The best poly so far, for the C174_M127_k24, at 50% complete with CADO.
Is this good enough? Test sieving with some unoptimized param gave yield 8160 @6M, but i am not sure i did this right :-(

[CODE]
n: 94410615373218704797201510125651849712559525623382519147033843966374414757318643595714477201887765034604269728700950434464990003242159016268314282962617716190928317011619566657
Y0: -7471849389251086201749091300586895
Y1: 708649660173940995547
c0: 2621705914649230171819209755822160165162
c1: -993914513963741328984046025976199
c2: -1358186992798631904082561818
c3: 265509778204990369114
c4: -243054615251784
c5: -12161880
skew: 2530302.065
# lognorm 53.49, E 47.81, alpha -5.68 (proj -2.31), 3 real roots
# MurphyE(Bf=1.00e+07,Bg=5.00e+06,area=1.00e+16)=1.30e-13
# Average exp_E: 47.62, average E: 47.81
[/CODE][/QUOTE]
A poly for this C176 (not C174) could be a tiny bit better. CADO always tries to minimize lognorm, not to maximize Murphy E. Because of that CADO always reports a skew that is slightly off optimal. Notice also that c0-c4 and Y0 in these polys are different.
[code]
Y0: -7471849511262132792537208267896073
Y1: 708649660173940995547
c0: -2751003327759751351756517403283459794420
c1: 497704639125731439235142340892279
c2: 1537938403716029939352710430
c3: -429295265634209413978
c4: 232584817616184
c5: 12161880
skew: 3772784.39
# size 2.703e-17, alpha -5.680, combined = 1.306e-13 rroots = 3
[/code]Also, how urgent is this job? Because currently 1.306 is still below the best C177 score:
[code]
176 1.631e-13
177 1.527e-13
178 1.194e-13
[/code]I see that C176 starts with a 9, but I'll be happy to try to provide a better poly before weekend starts if anybody cares and gives me a shout over PM.

kosta 2018-05-17 07:01

Sorry everyone, its fatigue, wrong number, wrong poly. The number is of course [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000001130270247"]C176 (link to factordb)[/URL].

A much better one was found by Cado in the meantime.
This one is best by yield and lognorm, but only second best by Murphy, maybe Cado is right to optimize lognorm?
I can post the best-by-Murphy too if you like.

[CODE]
n: 94410615373218704797201510125651849712559525623382519147033843966374414757318643595714477201887765034604269728700950434464990003242159016268314282962617716190928317011619566657
Y0: -5793597564486948920768579906535619
Y1: 13485763936313696499041
c0: -3134801263973289945523805141460021973950
c1: -328241658495560667069017204687871
c2: 5518089861502932609489002111
c3: 149447217422652397285
c4: -269239060939490
c5: 14464320
skew: 3029168.962
# lognorm 53.58, E 48.01, alpha -5.57 (proj -2.03), 5 real roots
# MurphyE(Bf=1.00e+07,Bg=5.00e+06,area=5.37e+15)=2.06e-13
# Average exp_E: 47.53, average E: 48.01
[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-17 16:33

[b]QUEUED[/b] C221 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_7(Phi_53(11)/107/351497/6005113)/17669/418719784477597 ]
P40^7-1
[CODE]n: 14817635969842553317499767181753222617352378885962799140982458017181139480565457846779433926290287345504673839512624654983739440587081791455104664046590009000846851133633658973737668384449845891595655077458885903754183277
# 6918082374901313855125397665325977135579^7-1, difficulty: 239.04, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
# cost: 3.55567e+18, est. time: 1693.18 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 6918082374901313855125397665325977135579
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 61
mfba: 61
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 14288
60M 11060
100M 10142
140M 8064[/CODE]

fivemack 2018-05-17 20:33

C176_M127_k24 queued on 14e and already 25% sieved

RichD 2018-05-20 20:40

[b]QUEUED AS C198_756xx781_11[/b] C198 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_3(Phi_41(3)/83/2526913))/848123/1931416338711113 ]
[CODE]n: 372500254331224118772103810598940256964854682914997832866627399888808143684652245163772152225398870893446220034256695586702770224824781632223410075875018678686949031569139347046883808283663975686189
# 7560423642616328727781^11-1, difficulty: 218.79, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.22
# cost: 6.9593e+17, est. time: 331.40 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: -4
c2: -3
c1: 3
c0: 1
Y1: -7560423642616328727781
Y0: 57160005655831956733898370297492146001183962
type: snfs
rlim: 34000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
8M 9512
10M 9436
20M 10105
40M 9227[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-20 20:58

[b]QUEUED AS C242_14831_59[/b]
C242 from the OPN MWRB file.
[CODE]n: 84706065195784682649153855710453419779264245210793092970929242524733608922018600052440147444430635432617532231333263770893919412681954216996939904218284642558819006200423164270347306140382320289715935264803916087073263113400108208468076206289
# 14831^59-1, difficulty: 250.27, skewness: 6.83, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 8.47717e+18, est. time: 4036.75 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 6.827
c5: 1
c0: -14831
Y1: -1
Y0: 113251827510313821840644136829357033210279295175361
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 95
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
30M 6408
60M 6830
100M 7671
200M 6785
300M 6246
400M 5660[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-22 15:16

[b]QUEUED AS C169_203xx091_19[/b]
C169 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_19(Phi_11(2801)/23/1372537/10196539/45437789)/p14/p16/p25 ]
[CODE]n: 1464841734316684457225869408731258284133466740541427562463368508205208037397398009074732890202903386785079786863586869088394960392941563454332984322043329589796090913859
# 2033125998091^19-1
lss: 0
Y0: -689358020085609956133725014112165
Y1: 31354973791779473
c0: -16620086508635275092040663358549139803616
c1: -648378334161026741001524282929056
c2: 2554585747850980214109050050
c3: 321290904756361273975
c4: -18160675252689
c5: 75276
skew: 12520983.05
# size 1.999e-16, alpha -7.285, combined = 4.300e-13 rroots = 5
type: gnfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 9713
60M 9765
100M 9621
150M 7798[/CODE]

richs 2018-05-23 16:12

[b]QUEUED AS C152_230916_5622 [/b]
C152 from Aliquot 230916, term 5622. ECMed to t47.

[CODE]n: 42320923789812166870718259370208700842368321751087545550097344633678452069299924877529375332650643953753226099086627175150831962789619983579691207434151
# norm 1.233336e-014 alpha -6.595529 e 4.411e-012 rroots 5
skew: 15112296.55
c0: -4346696705962333627336242328250419568
c1: 13698773426940093382292055604100
c2: 14462266812193249427452256
c3: 167373329455103485
c4: -53131423440
c5: 252
Y0: -699891929274462419130194288379
Y1: 2517803241374713
rlim: 27800000
alim: 27800000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]

Trial sieving 5K blocks.

[CODE] Q Yield
14M 7410
20M 6500
50M 4340
80M 3126[/CODE]

I will post-process this number.

Many thanks to RichD for answering my questions.

VBCurtis 2018-05-24 16:26

[b]QUEUED AS 13_2_852m1[/b]
13*2^852-1 is ready for SNFS:
[code]n: 2083088855636710074611556899555269967545773796051083964992348741867490506220970462864860362862363115504861846383520323612523782816736486953221823258388630612171335944025445082320745916921763794345543037574318469595422552717819
skew: 0.65
type: snfs
size: 258
c6: 13
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 5575186299632655785383929568162090376495104
rlim: 134000000
alim: 200000000
lpbr: 33
lpba: 33
mfbr: 66
mfba: 66
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/code]
Q from 20M to 260M should yield ~660M raw relations:
[code]Q=20M 0.075 sec/rel, 4235 rels
Q=50M 0.088 sec/rel, 3269 rels
Q=80M 0.096 sec/rel, 2822 rels
Q=110M 0.105 sec/rel, 3108 rels
Q=140M 0.108 sec/rel, 2673 rels
Q=170M 0.122 sec/rel, 2041 rels
Q=200M 0.120 sec/rel, 2467 rels
Q=230M 0.137 sec/rel, 2168 rels
Q=260M 0.135 sec/rel, 2302 rels[/code]
Q-ranges of 1000 were tested.
I'll handle the matrix.

RichD 2018-05-24 21:57

[b]QUEUED AS C217_69655517_29[/b]

C217 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_29(Phi_7(4733)/7/70001/329422297)/523 ]
[CODE]n: 7660425224220300452199603398023936346867288264325673149795445858458901847791380656190099032230634537623632227009717779117423326630967327029820874262141541098328786358195090634031674238764883609498586617994897943096847
# 69655517^29-1, difficulty: 235.29, skewness: 20.28, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 2.64559e+18, est. time: 1259.80 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 20.284
c6: 1
c0: -69655517
Y1: -1
Y0: 1639749850771434978413554768710418997357
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 92
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 8399
60M 6461
100M 5751
150M 4433
200M 4241
250M 3636[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-25 18:13

[b]QUEUED AS C193_194xx723_13[/b] C193 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_13(911)/13/53/937/260670715787)/13/157/p24 ]
[CODE]n: 2390404626422208630003102939687940614349820019338741430424865457365020423790387147527550970450519550380071191741917837853251742365127305780015400665515465327159428300277175646515473982763379729
# 1943777054011345723^13-1, difficulty: 219.46, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10
# cost: 7.36052e+17, est. time: 350.50 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: -5
c3: -4
c2: 6
c1: 3
c0: -1
Y1: -1943777054011345723
Y0: 3778269235701026028057008809430392730
type: snfs
rlim: 17000000
alim: 34000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 57
mfba: 57
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
6M 11367
10M 10336
20M 8452
40M 6246[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-27 18:20

[b]QUEUED AS C172_115xx057_17[/b]
C172 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_17(Phi_17(127)/527532101/75755912653)/17/p13/p40 ]
[CODE]n: 2894179461175151041262711268634046191281740014199611508948071267003263646415841141875858797232166438793384756670787079364361389316718471031192454736349235970484214214895141
Y0: -1105041091843606765998261329264241
Y1: 39518089521739961
c0: -18265800465489456613048092588793576771760
c1: 9517534018016392198849731950246890
c2: 9582278338639954895390117201
c3: -421094252743829364199
c4: -141795751129911
c5: 1756440
skew: 8335519.24
# skew 8335519.24, size 8.471e-17, alpha -6.975, combined = 2.580e-13 rroots = 5
# expecting poly E from 2.53e-13 to 2.91e-13
type: gnfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
14M 12292
20M 11085
60M 8571
100M 8280
150M 7686[/CODE]

RichD 2018-05-30 15:46

[b]QUEUED AS C176_672xx549_11[/b]
C176 from the OPN t600 file.
a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_2(Phi_3(Phi_7(2801)/7/71/211/1597)/619)/2)/23/2927/24971/231529/423259/11777921/p16 ]
[CODE]n: 10636145469860685205784133309721486090642973238074757193105798464821742928181199532929624686772990294408439857608009016839232914516238054243745690536904561205780235185470418903
# 6721393100152677634549^11-1, difficulty: 218.27, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.22
# cost: 6.67115e+17, est. time: 317.67 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: -4
c2: -3
c1: 3
c0: 1
Y1: -6721393100152677634549
Y0: 45177125206780022798787250883891477998433402
type: snfs
rlim: 34000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 9673
20M 10631
40M 9939[/CODE]

unconnected 2018-05-31 22:52

[b]QUEUED ON 14e AS C172_11040_10080[/b]
C172 from alq sequence 11040:i10080 is ready for GNFS (thx Max for improved poly).

[CODE]n: 1773609810640326137506048934005720326001842445891839878160657321987999204446671681151317000989104105836960808112036515218167435411817552189170383677070033522690218104145549
Y0: -4402426848615032495132095407159777
Y1: 636233426236388287
c0: 7499278599755456072846498246043017639000
c1: 243678138160327513477951960683064050
c2: 5198777109439165101215954033
c3: -260652287897646985710
c4: 5406756433943
c5: 8580
skew: 37182427.774
# lognorm 53.75, E 46.02, alpha -7.73 (proj -1.63), 3 real roots
# MurphyE = 2.79e-13
rlim: 63400000
alim: 63400000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs
[/CODE]Suggested sieve range is 20-200M.

VBCurtis 2018-05-31 23:47

A C172 is on the border of 14e and 15e- which queue did you mean this for? If 14e, you really should test-sieve those parameters to see how low the yield is. Something like 134M and/or 200M on 32LP would work much much better.
Edit- you suggested a sieve range, so you did test-sieve? Can you share yields? Perhaps there's value in low lim's that I haven't explored.

debrouxl 2018-06-01 06:54

Well, the 14e queue is starving, while the 15e queue is lengthy, so I'd target 14e :smile:

unconnected 2018-06-01 07:00

I prefer 14e queue because 15e very big ATM and the number is suitable for 14e. My estimates based on previous tasks and of course I did test-sieve.
[CODE]
total yield: 2605, q=20002007 (0.23488 sec/rel)
total yield: 2388, q=60002003 (0.24639 sec/rel)
total yield: 2108, q=100002011 (0.25450 sec/rel)
total yield: 2124, q=140002019 (0.30660 sec/rel)
total yield: 1861, q=180002021 (0.31807 sec/rel)[/CODE]

So, 20-200M should give us ~200M raw relations.

pinhodecarlos 2018-06-01 11:08

By looking at FreeDC stats the majority of the 14e/15e wus are done by the gridcoin pools and Syracuse University, which I think they have selected all types of wu's on the preferences page. If the 14e dries they will crunch 15e but I suppose Syracuse University has a few cores only dedicated to 14e but only Greg can help us there.


To clear my point, let the 14e queue dry and the long 15e queue will be picked up with 30k wu's/day.

fivemack 2018-06-01 12:27

swellman: I notice you've been submitting a number of polynomials with rlim=34000000. I've generally been changing this to 33500000, because that's just under a power of two whilst 34000000 is just over, and I have a vague belief that just under a power of two makes some bit of the sieving process slightly faster.

RichD 2018-06-01 13:06

[QUOTE=fivemack;488834]swellman: I notice you've been submitting a number of polynomials with rlim=34000000. I've generally been changing this to 33500000, because that's just under a power of two whilst 34000000 is just over, and I have a vague belief that just under a power of two makes some bit of the sieving process slightly faster.[/QUOTE]

That was probably me. I was under the impression lim should be just over a power of two.

Hmm, 2^25 = 33554432.

RichD 2018-06-02 01:17

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;488828]To clear my point, let the 14e queue dry and the long 15e queue will be picked up with 30k wu's/day.[/QUOTE]

Sounds good. I will hold my numbers until a later date. Most are GNFS which needs a poly. This will give me time to be better prepared.

Max0526 2018-06-02 17:44

GNFS numbers
 
[QUOTE=RichD;488908]Sounds good. I will hold my numbers until a later date. Most are GNFS which needs a poly. This will give me time to be better prepared.[/QUOTE]
What are your numbers, out of curiosity? I might run GNFS CADO poly search during the week.

richs 2018-06-08 01:16

[b]QUEUED AS C160_434040_3072[/b]
C160 from Aliquot 434040, term 3072. Poly found with Max0526's advice. ECMed to about t55 with yoyo's assistance.

[CODE]n: 1224646482548344358576400380790583410943465922638464289108994846647113215124988455487691511716330769987686156554720156346666007214038900411765308697896001834719
# norm 2.231371e-015 alpha -6.776440 e 1.654e-012 rroots 3
skew: 26644281.65
c0: -6839184280589617471336885267924784917175
c1: -1118366783300932206509070942129961
c2: 50380457149913327106821717
c3: 4255677336256600897
c4: -69215843118
c5: 888
Y0: -16901279753934742199146631859198
Y1: 88925162596211033
rlim: 40000000
alim: 40000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/CODE]

Trial sieving 5k blocks:

[CODE] Q Yield
14M 8277
20M 7635
50M 5144
80M 3908
110M 3937[/CODE]

I will post-process this number. Thanks to Max0526 and yoyo.

RichD 2018-06-11 12:27

[b]QUEUED AS C173_542xx041_3[/b]

C173 from the OPN t550 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_3(Phi_19(306517)/191/55026737)//3/7/1789 ]
P89^3-1 54272081997719936694932737782603739858367553756705713569128530720565556404525135777737041^3-1
Thanks to [B]Max0526[/B] for help with the poly.
[CODE]n: 78401311836014704535377458743087410722999955874229035164587299954570150821395445533408671453192521999771961540343976343785574791748698463276963183735072439557534654931212467
lss: 0
Y0: -4572290429579024282084207070688940
Y1: 715595744168869
c0: 56874500374783717471143529342052977684404
c1: 79865919650436970300832128360522771
c2: -20968806607775583829303475987
c3: -2682678136669048198013
c4: 48232878391359
c5: 313866
skew: 20097092.14
# size 6.317e-17, alpha -7.730, combined = 2.158e-13 rroots = 5
# expecting poly E from 2.07e-13 to > 2.38e-13
type: gnfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
14M 10254
20M 10271
60M 7773
100M 7752
150M 6393[/CODE]

RichD 2018-06-18 21:47

[b]QUEUED AS C172_289xx619^19[/b]

C172 from the OPN t600 file.
Sieve on the ALGEBRAIC side.
[ a.k.a. Phi_19(Phi_7(292561)/2^8/3^2/5^2/23^2/53^2/911/75013/180307/17551493)/457/1559/342343/p18/p25 ]
[CODE]n: 1938158881239909020613091165706000142441095010443064261676133053220503322014633508587737933920835373942981614449873689899353326392699772377222322024693874146434534377352391
# 2899469274619^19-1 (C172)
lss: 0
Y0: -2136328165660671334099379801443030
Y1: 3018337560141376741579
c0: -6359898483822275712375979261404932353245936
c1: 808585104072346712778280012268251307
c2: 17524784671989557061487133628
c3: -1559950021636723838783
c4: -16322372500776
c5: 261360
skew: 41088906.38
# size 9.917e-17, alpha -8.307, combined = 2.877e-13 rroots = 5
alim: 67000000
rlim: 134000000
lpba: 31
lpbr: 31
mfba: 62
mfbr: 92
alambda: 2.6
rlambda: 3.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 7774
60M 9109
100M 7194
150M 6056
200M 5279[/CODE]

RichD 2018-06-19 03:07

[b]QUEUED AS C161_969xx841_13[/b]
C161 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_5(2180921)/5/4666801)/79/443/p52 ]
[CODE]n: 15340024592600302079858615615544685528507303335059904836038647742182917682884815876705116333891798950660713275540582199806852493422178165118152986036727706268953
# 969550980294955841^13-1, difficulty: 215.84, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10
# cost: 5.44862e+17, est. time: 259.46 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: -5
c3: -4
c2: 6
c1: 3
c0: -1
Y1: -969550980294955841
Y0: 940029103390909849483547308140017282
# Y1: -p
# Y0: p^2 + 1
type: snfs
rlim: 16500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 57
mfba: 57
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
6M 13542
10M 12206
20M 9833
26M 8934
32M 7650[/CODE]

RichD 2018-06-19 03:31

[b]QUEUED AS C181_14821_53[/b]
C181 from the OPN MWRB file with an OPN weight of 4620.
[CODE]n: 1134365794485986087142528566953510524497411950371518352399244358174373903562901940018276402417015180070327126278814473168783545859880507576985466286645432450286058272172205284297551
# 14821^53-1, difficulty: 225.23, skewness: 4.96, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 1.18023e+18, est. time: 562.01 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 4.956
c6: 1
c0: -14821
Y1: -1
Y0: 34506234188424580044285170807377971781
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 16842
14M 16153
20M 15277
60M 10174[/CODE]

VBCurtis 2018-06-19 22:09

[b]QUEUED AS 13_2_853_m1 [/b] 13*2^853-1 is ready for SNFS on 14e:
[code]n: 1984133939536354589303027747642021045122874173930740553315832970989684622609088659408935332189382042605741754839878732182271389575259718698134313541375575590360240175803193730105980774511023348271960042886569755527009
skew: 0.59
type: snfs
size: 258
c6: 26
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 5575186299632655785383929568162090376495104
rlim: 134000000
alim: 200000000
lpbr: 33
lpba: 33
mfbr: 66
mfba: 66
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/code]
Test-sieving indicates Q range from 15-220M should yield ~650M relations:
[code]Q=20M 0.061 sec/rel, 4806 rels
Q=40M 0.067 sec/rel, 4119 rels
Q=60M 0.075 sec/rel, 3542 rels
Q=80M 0.080 sec/rel, 3236 rels
Q=110M 0.089 sec/rel, 3501 rels
Q=140M 0.100 sec/rel, 3101 rels
Q=170M 0.107 sec/rel, 2287 rels[/code]

Alternately, 32/64 on the rational side and 33/66 alg side should yield 510M relations from Q=15-240M; the expected sieve time is marginally longer, but this saves a bit of disk space and server bandwidth.
I'll handle the matrix, please.

RichD 2018-06-24 14:26

[b]QUEUED AS C211_489xx557_7 [/b]
C211 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_7(Phi_107(3)/50077/229837)/29^3/421/1183130111050331755535790133 ]
P41^7-1
[CODE]n: 1134507765851880429458844611888849057481057995993265356102247938222166493299410915234943047650414750697262672370564877482295777735351545028439738178770336398834518224057361962994790504373390782080479803905762391
# 48965028505045123993421250406516036571557^7-1, difficulty: 244.14, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
# cost: 5.2911e+18, est. time: 2519.57 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 48965028505045123993421250406516036571557
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 11537
20M 11016
60M 9077
100M 8091
150M 6551
200M 6175[/CODE]
P.S. A couple numbers in the 14e queue could use a few more relations.

swellman 2018-06-26 17:47

[b]QUEUED AS C146_M17_k41[/b]
C146_M17_k41 from the kosta project is ready for SNFS on 14e. Straightforward factorization job for someone weary of month long efforts. I don't have the bandwidth to take it right now.
[code]
n: 77903135045855861025050652113274924325407202154171862626516078860295928679456030006176995935281081075944596887305592953648760569199090515319652081
# 131071^41-1, difficulty: 214.94, anorm: -1.93e+27, rnorm: 2.83e+47
# scaled difficulty: 218.30, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 6.654e-15, alpha = 0.959, combined = 3.841e-12, rroots = 1
type: snfs
size: 214
skew: 0.0947
c5: 131071
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 87106969161751807834285455088687393013761
rlim: 33000000
alim: 33000000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 10K:
[code]
Q=10M 23266
Q=18M 22066
Q=25M 23229
Q=32M 21362
Q=40M 20389
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 10M-38M with a target number of relations = 60M. This many relations may be a touch high for a 29-bit run, but not overly so.

pinhodecarlos 2018-06-26 17:57

I'll do it swellman.

pinhodecarlos 2018-06-27 14:15

1 Attachment(s)
Just to warn that C173_542xx041_3 needs more relations since it can't produce a matrix with td set to 70. Check msieve log attached.

debrouxl 2018-06-27 14:20

Alright, I've just increased the upper end of the range from 150M to 164M.

pinhodecarlos 2018-06-27 14:23

[QUOTE=debrouxl;490703]Alright, I've just increased the upper end of the range from 150M to 164M.[/QUOTE]


Please divide by 10. I’m seing set to 1640M.

debrouxl 2018-06-27 14:26

Oops. And sure enough, the WU generation job ran in the meantime, so there are now WUs for a very large range of q values :'(

Protection, or at least warning, against a likely extra zero was on the wish list for the crunching management page rework, but nobody had and has time to do that.

RichD 2018-06-27 18:33

[b]QUEUED ON 14e AS C212_440xx141_11 [/b]
C212 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_11(Phi_5(Phi_3(Phi_5(3169)/61)/78049/1577431459)/1404522989938741)/23/2531 ]
[CODE]n: 47611450180055498439349968637913730559592127942397433610100631457738318371226970404553635953161927868566132382127172643984212820961263599481210316485929317381842743175765020672013193446142690072278493537763013947
# 4408320270589390433141^11-1, difficulty: 216.44, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.22
# cost: 5.72978e+17, est. time: 272.85 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: -4
c2: -3
c1: 3
c0: 1
Y1: -4408320270589390433141
Y0: 19433287608089316487066481218818135591125882
type: snfs
rlim: 16700000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 10712
20M 10702
40M 8568[/CODE]

pinhodecarlos 2018-06-28 10:26

[QUOTE=pinhodecarlos;488828]By looking at FreeDC stats the majority of the 14e/15e wus are done by the gridcoin pools and Syracuse University, which I think they have selected all types of wu's on the preferences page. If the 14e dries they will crunch 15e but I suppose Syracuse University has a few cores only dedicated to 14e but only Greg can help us there.


To clear my point, let the 14e queue dry and the long 15e queue will be picked up with 30k wu's/day.[/QUOTE]


Picking up an old message by posting an interesting stats. By letting 16e queue dry (I've stopped chasing Greg) it's clear the majority of the clients can run and process the 15e wus at a rate of 90k-100k per day. There was a peak of 120k when some friends were running Formula Boinc.

swellman 2018-07-02 11:08

C184_137_92 (GNFS)
 
[b]QUEUED AS C184_137_92[/b]
C184_137_92 is ready for GNFS on 15e after much ECM and a record setting poly search (thanks to the entire group of searchers).
[code]
n: 9940228815572729974479805041160093457799465836723047107028814844367343645759844924667871218783311382744144475849662072771372543751420348902351458832811698585316610540775038942091519187
skew: 20968860.16210
c0: -865964752445816537631964846743050291670210
c1: 2293270893548037775327647434630690295
c2: 88595020171690595578726729681
c3: -15580674710447975645942
c4: 131206418303040
c5: 10151856
Y0: -287326832813287728566182014605586743
Y1: 1176988226526859937
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
mfbr: 64
mfba: 96
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.4
[/code]


Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 10k:
[code]
Q=30M 27964
Q=60M 32007
Q=100M 32019
Q=150M 32243
Q=200M 27700
Q=250M 26018
[/code]
Which suggests a sieving range of 40-190M with a target number of relations = 470M.

RichD 2018-07-06 01:04

[b]QUEUED AS C181_255xx161_3[/b]
C181 from the OPN t550 file.
P91^3-1 - 2559748633561915802707442930459223465566261478367639818017337979434186929768942720172398161^3-1
Thanks to [B]Max0526[/B] (with his spinning magic wand) this just fits into the 14e queue.
[ a.k.a. Phi_3(Phi_13(Phi_3(Phi_17(7)/14009)/3/7^3/109/751/2659))/3 ]
[CODE]n: 2184104355674031701666232949889790861408815281367584761650200578273244685637684861126850447382741596497054664683555671939656815597830422962024614498614646839996363161113228696193361
lss: 0
Y0: -116393977351596504512610421296072089
Y1: 2891839222643445722
c0: 288735979816870354735984591458533979420573000
c1: 11109739611757125295711738247260489794
c2: 22572443617731077936379864267
c3: -4684754118803936903939
c4: -16835838677492
c5: 408960
skew: 79701611.87
# size 1.304e-17, alpha -7.788, combined = 8.476e-14 rroots = 3
type: gnfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 94
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 11806
60M 11452
100M 10101
200M 8864
250M 7297[/CODE]

RichD 2018-07-11 21:34

15e Candidate
 
[b]QUEUED AS C265_4703_73[/b]
C265 from the OPN MWRB file, with an OPN weight of 93,721, is ready for the 15e queue.
[CODE]n: 2576859997429492147226788816226038983087069574562441316045271301051009421474600303015958653846779330984172803410041964216940201960195395875753384167157070567412779641683621750116982215960764022565771928291869873104940978126241058940686600655585214843017413053164161
# 4703^73-1, difficulty: 268.08, skewness: 0.24, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.20984e+19, est. time: 15284.93 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 0.244
c6: 4703
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 117084591472025534123197243677156493370682241
m: 117084591472025534123197243677156493370682241
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 94
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 9967
60M 8849
100M 9003
150M 7741
200M 7194
250M 6476
300M 6205
350M 5926[/CODE]

swellman 2018-07-14 12:57

[b]QUEUED AS C181_145_89[/b]
C181_145_89 is ready for GNFS. Thanks to all who helped find quality polys for this job using msieve and CADO. Sieve on 15e.
[code]
n: 1390160871520339900134144829682239956053981060629674505539153055566066062265576410743902307455059552340491922450846460125887893770031528799225841648600692992642720678051400911671421
skew: 27838064.04
c0: -31412192938054082008074893660742808411751092
c1: -1351091624670306641837465550189650496
c2: 187197771601835975109616288823
c3: 3551882305387564420071
c4: -212937619014946
c5: 3218280
Y0: -61276547523950057213420823588322875
Y1: 449085128997858177349
# norm 1.883864e-17 alpha -8.303459 e 9.460787e-14 rroots 3
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 10K
[code]
Q=40M 29620
Q=70M 29432
Q=100M 32126
Q=150M 29102
Q=200M 31010
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range of 40M-195M with a target number of relations = 470M

VBCurtis 2018-07-16 23:21

[b]QUEUED AS 13_2_854_m1[/b]
13*2^854-1 has had over a t55 and is ready for SNFS on 15e:
[code]n: 789527735910944595695761136118546290767947057990476317843573529855718851750107760582082761046406967543535075365187348725427283134712110154502161636885321905438472182835983032207073656729624686074087702723181711
skew: 0.52
type: snfs
size: 259
c6: 52
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 5575186299632655785383929568162090376495104
rlim: 67000000
alim: 100000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 92
mfba: 64
rlambda: 3.9
alambda: 2.7[/code]
I've sent previous candidates in this list to 14e; since 15e is close to empty, it's a nice time to see how matrix size changes from 14e to 15e on similar jobs.
Test-sieving indicates Q-range of 10-95M to yield 420M raw relations: (1k ranges tested)
[code]Q=10M 0.084 sec/rel, 7271 rels
Q=20M 0.098 sec/rel, 7565 rels
Q=40M 0.115 sec/rel, 5349 rels
Q=60M 0.132 sec/rel, 4216 rels
Q=80M 0.132 sec/rel, 3730 rels[/code]

Edit: I'd like to do the matrix.

fivemack 2018-07-17 08:00

I apologise for not having pushed any of these to the queue for the last three weeks.

I think they're all pushed now.

RichD 2018-07-18 02:10

[b]QUEUED AS C206_63877469_31[/b]
C206 from the OPN t600 file.
Sieve on ALGEBRAIC side.
[CODE]n: 69405435936968401278976803579112078018352517371124391415709922720117969960353814898436448572141334064811267075254893339905836023730194122434412306867039040179858432379048732782767855169277527175436065364269
# 63877469^31-1, difficulty: 242
lss: 0
c6: 63877469
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 1063502461347443891056690249655347258349
skew: 0.05
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 8172
20M 10339
60M 6001
100M 6079
150M 5212
200M 3703
250M 4302[/CODE]

swellman 2018-07-19 13:57

[b]QUEUED AS C171_M17_k43[/b]

C171_M17_k43 of the kosta project, aka the C171 cofactor of 131071^43-1, is ready for SNFS after a solid amount of ECM. All test sieving was performed on 14e.

[code]
n: 843308661350139867210413039441444200641032201621151330634928489651106457899444292018975358586718054746368080996439147596339794186101098121535151045884223767286924049386961
# 131071^43-1, difficulty: 225.17, anorm: -3.38e+031, rnorm: 1.77e+042
# scaled difficulty: 226.96, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.214e-011, alpha = 1.690, combined = 1.156e-012, rroots = 2
type: snfs
size: 225
skew: 0.1403
c6: 131071
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 664578504488039366711823783206715391
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 10K
[code]
Q=15M 23954
Q=30M 19726
Q=50M 15645
Q=75M 14235
Q=100M 12885
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 15-85M with a target number of relations = 120M.

RichD 2018-07-20 02:11

[b]QUEUED AS C176_552xx829_7[/b]
C176 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_7(Phi_43(13)/119627)/4182863203/p28/p38 ]
P42^7-1
[CODE]n: 69332660877922082537767530768489028323351021382491370365774125187128061567786015233280919959574623253603839347499710319156551450042423660032291852446972210215342161358825636053
# 552781743698966779174737704265497702530829^7-1, difficulty: 250.46, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 2.24
# cost: 8.59773e+18, est. time: 4094.16 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 552781743698966779174737704265497702530829
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
14M 8655
20M 9097
60M 7547
100M 6819
150M 5675
200M 5289[/CODE]

fivemack 2018-07-20 13:18

Fellow people with access to the nfs@home queues: if you have updated the range on a number which is marked as 'check range', could you remove the mark?

RichD 2018-07-22 20:35

[b]QUEUED AS C226_21377_53 [/b]
C226 from the OPN MWRB file with an OPN weight of 9175.
[CODE]n: 1436321604340152589083512138406810324756408198515695524641134444419607542566287890876803806509435703564816435488310198615047557182183408325105744996737768988868873736257864298247070361431016160988563989079539997997332543698741
# 21377^53-1, difficulty: 233.82, skewness: 5.27, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 2.35407e+18, est. time: 1120.98 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.268
c6: 1
c0: -21377
Y1: -1
Y0: 932225149593696946303265412332864139137
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 12562
60M 9558
100M 8664
150M 6624
200M 6554[/CODE]

debrouxl 2018-07-22 20:55

It had been a little while since I last updated a range on 14e. I have just fixed the number of bits to match the polynomial, and expanded the ranges for the three last numbers :smile:

RichD 2018-07-22 21:58

[b]QUEUED AS C176_628xx943_3[/b]
C176 from the OPN t600 file.
[ a.k.a. Phi_3(Phi_7(Phi_3(Phi_3(Phi_2(Phi_5(1009))/2/3)/3/13/167017549)/3/3523057633)/535741/1868261)/3/97/229/5011 ]
P92^3-1 - 62818938916943713724293329489477630385792505500459422757805502240535452147851295164091552943^3-1
[CODE]n: 11817573680377412836638632860989734534122871678823492195403235269655979005933118060307829076932649917304985855842648318632629528764253759881956068556160252701423136424140701317
lss: 0
Y0: -10945003540020221256540143306425414
Y1: 5724562817425357
c0: 1340103580218924232182567818952782473639164447
c1: 85017093137267155348529414010090702797
c2: 304981113552615979136336661351
c3: -17082141345003713474637
c4: -1361121917278
c5: 75240
skew: 166974791.84
type: gnfs
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
40M 9006
60M 9269
100M 10246
150M 9826
200M 9110
250M 9634
300M 10404[/CODE]
As info, my next two are GNFS-159 (30-bit?) & GNFS-172 (31-bit?).

swellman 2018-07-22 23:37

[QUOTE=debrouxl;492326]It had been a little while since I last updated a range on 14e. I have just fixed the number of bits to match the polynomial, and expanded the ranges for the three last numbers :smile:[/QUOTE]

Something looks wrong - the bit size for my C171_M17_k43 job increased from 30 to 31, at least that’s [url=https://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/crunching.php]what is displayed on the 14e status page[/url]. Further, the poly that [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=492119&postcount=1525]I proposed for this job[/url] is not on the NFS server, rather it appears to be that [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=492119&postcount=1525]proposed by RichD one post later[/url].

Is this a cut and paste error? Or am I totally misunderstanding what happens behind the curtain?

RichD 2018-07-22 23:49

[QUOTE=swellman;492337]Something looks wrong - the bit size for my C171_M17_k43 job increased from 30 to 31, at least that’s [url=https://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/crunching.php]what is displayed on the 14e status page[/url]. Further, the poly that [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=492119&postcount=1525]I proposed for this job[/url] is not on the NFS server, rather it appears to be that [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=492119&postcount=1525]proposed by RichD one post later[/url].

Is this a cut and paste error? Or am I totally misunderstanding what happens behind the curtain?[/QUOTE]

I concur. This appears to be a duplication. C171_M17_k43 should be re-queued.

debrouxl 2018-07-23 05:26

I set the number of bits to 31 because the polynomial which appears in the Web interface is
[code]n: 69332660877922082537767530768489028323351021382491370365774125187128061567786015233280919959574623253603839347499710319156551450042423660032291852446972210215342161358825636053
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 552781743698966779174737704265497702530829
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6[/code]

But you're saying that the number should be set to COMPLETED, and a new entry should be created ?

swellman 2018-07-23 12:13

[QUOTE=debrouxl;492345]I set the number of bits to 31 because the polynomial which appears in the Web interface is
[code]n: 69332660877922082537767530768489028323351021382491370365774125187128061567786015233280919959574623253603839347499710319156551450042423660032291852446972210215342161358825636053
skew: 1.000
c6: 1
c5: 1
c4: 1
c3: 1
c2: 1
c1: 1
c0: 1
Y1: -1
Y0: 552781743698966779174737704265497702530829
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 91
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 3.6[/code]

But you're saying that the number should be set to COMPLETED, and a new entry should be created ?[/QUOTE]

I’m saying that the poly now loaded on the NFS server does not match my posted poly [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=492119&postcount=1525]in post 1525 of this thread[/url]:

[QUOTE=swellman;492119][b]QUEUED AS C171_M17_k43[/b]

C171_M17_k43 of the kosta project, aka the C171 cofactor of 131071^43-1, is ready for SNFS after a solid amount of ECM. All test sieving was performed on 14e.

[code]
n: 843308661350139867210413039441444200641032201621151330634928489651106457899444292018975358586718054746368080996439147596339794186101098121535151045884223767286924049386961
# 131071^43-1, difficulty: 225.17, anorm: -3.38e+031, rnorm: 1.77e+042
# scaled difficulty: 226.96, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.214e-011, alpha = 1.690, combined = 1.156e-012, rroots = 2
type: snfs
size: 225
skew: 0.1403
c6: 131071
c0: -1
Y1: -1
Y0: 664578504488039366711823783206715391
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 10K
[code]
Q=15M 23954
Q=30M 19726
Q=50M 15645
Q=75M 14235
Q=100M 12885
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 15-85M with a target number of relations = 120M.[/QUOTE]

RichD 2018-07-23 14:54

[b]QUEUED AS C159_263_107[/b]
C159 from the OPN t600 file.
[CODE]n: 259776346083546969466320225817961898406440221920026347491935590061977972255301038052036439600512075464093736406833989483903155116904758440261578222105494382373
lss: 0
Y0: -3834032504130238294671921280380
Y1: 1498053917007461
c0: -252397344998732106673264360798653146627
c1: 110055336589357426246055597844635
c2: 97568629096915648815812737
c3: -19573683027556982771
c4: -7336231649534
c5: 313560
skew: 4144149.36
alim: 67000000
rlim: 67000000
lpba: 30
lpbr: 30
mfba: 60
mfbr: 60
alambda: 2.5
rlambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
10M 9997
20M 11194
40M 11537
50M 12245[/CODE]

swellman 2018-07-24 11:14

C178_147_59 (14e)
 
[b]QUEUED[/b]
C178_147_59 from the xyyx project is ready for GNFS on 14e. Thanks to all searchers for their efforts in finding the polynomial.

[code]
n: 2251429707018528934457041813481601032569889257418265821908991741003115888404619021770539605531307738047511371147680734871485977769067616896803379307999889414717811965124412699937
skew: 22569497.42
c0: -770158217923678746589019391570692069224240
c1: 21167187760821188321017024831964069
c2: 25080062790864989010014579176
c3: 108383008056854100986
c4: -59554330931240
c5: 103500
Y0: -29342939680389557477137925469049763
Y1: 7267117519804674977
# norm 2.825666e-17 alpha -6.356324 e 1.193e-13 rroots 5
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 96
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 3.7
[/code]

Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 10k.
[code]
Q=40M 27364
Q=70M 23885
Q=100M 23011
Q=150M 21383
Q=200M 17529
Q=250M 17099[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range of 30M-250M with a target number of relations = 460M.

fivemack 2018-07-24 14:08

[QUOTE=RichD;492356]C159 from the OPN t600 file.[/QUOTE]

But what's the underlying phi_n(p) ?

fivemack 2018-07-24 14:12

I've requeued C171_M17_k43 as C171_M17_k43b (display name M17^43-1) with the correct polynomial

RichD 2018-07-24 15:06

[QUOTE=fivemack;492393]But what's the underlying phi_n(p) ?[/QUOTE]

I thought something was missing.
Phi_107(263)/2141/9631/p16/p26/p50.

swellman 2018-07-24 17:50

[QUOTE=fivemack;492394]I've requeued C171_M17_k43 as C171_M17_k43b (display name M17^43-1) with the correct polynomial[/QUOTE]

Thank you.

Not sure what happened but it’s a relatively small job. No worries.

RichD 2018-07-27 02:21

[b]QUEUED AS C216_49852639_29[/b]
C216 from the OPN MWRB file with OPN weight of 5661.
[ a.k.a. Phi_29(Phi_3(25457)/13)) ]
[CODE]n: 342979604182615255258693254421748108228322604383289993800565370414344839359283788981547172276819546740023979366342120920148747230565238271359993792909152771442330156630035414193369265772093168266608867254556175688641
# 49852639^29-1, difficulty: 230.93, skewness: 19.18, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 1.86984e+18, est. time: 890.40 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 19.184
c6: 1
c0: -49852639
Y1: -1
Y0: 307922032948643297482606520455058607199
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 12157
60M 8724
100M 7662
150M 6143
200M 5781[/CODE]

RichD 2018-07-30 02:22

[b]QUEUED AS C173_386xx483_19[/b]
C173 from the OPN t600 file.
3867675755483^19-1
[ a.k.a. Phi_19(Phi_11(571)/419/2277499309493)/1559/1203689/p17/p29 ]
[CODE]n: 17091144404057182526808435052712333380560284935301487306675211495551817989135893565600385540258585226003866292895782708444388831056595759837645167391205220793744645983786599
lss: 0
Y0: -1619121272013358595378455472009581
Y1: 19673607520425629
c0: -51746507260284830003952304704720236217360
c1: 33638379090035788565523931883203484
c2: 2508601890567450534849189180
c3: -688238768371918957227
c4: -22967109342062
c5: 1535940
skew: 11663713.92
alim: 134000000
rlim: 134000000
lpba: 31
lpbr: 31
mfba: 91
mfbr: 62
alambda: 3.7
rlambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
16M 12331
20M 13967
60M 10251
100M 8553
150M 7071[/CODE]

RichD 2018-08-03 04:28

[b]QUEUED AS C209_34939_47[/b]
C209 from the OPN MWRB file.
[CODE]n: 98241296356084241168465133942857655218108719499892028963843575639947634153532790082339484776012645540154633301616671788679252980954603143610382231030892059409649271581721911881081892203568018552709101405348781
# 34939^47-1, difficulty: 218.08, skewness: 5.72, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 6.56386e+17, est. time: 312.56 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.718
c6: 1
c0: -34939
Y1: -1
Y0: 2220668672819138726094113295527117281
type: snfs
rlim: 16500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 95
mfba: 58
rlambda: 3.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 11775
20M 10083
30M 8457
40M 7659
50M 6564[/CODE]

RichD 2018-08-03 04:30

[b]QUEUED AS C172_480xx101_19[/b]
C172 from the OPN t600 file
4803254465101^19-1
[ a.k.a. Phi_19(Phi_5(Phi_13(13)/53/264031)/41/53738676221)/191/229/571/647/p14/p16/p18 ]
[CODE]n: 8245431342914464023882827935494086187821878748058975298095515171766807453757181718262089511955741262519519122612538524772998015646496281807715779842794381343825847653605133
lss: 0
Y0: -1500434184009980038595371361170385
Y1: 23809464692332303
c0: -105405614055385218855588236802168464707824
c1: 89357342365588305212738197964151534
c2: -3543433465302039830331554514
c3: -2626275133912673124997
c4: 3287054877958
c5: 1084248
skew: 15341897.20
alim: 134000000
rlim: 134000000
lpba: 31
lpbr: 31
mfba: 91
mfbr: 62
alambda: 3.7
rlambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 12928
60M 8756
100M 8654
150M 8085[/CODE]

VBCurtis 2018-08-03 05:34

[QUOTE=RichD;493030]C209 from the OPN MWRB file.
[CODE]
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 95
mfba: 58
rlambda: 3.5
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
[/QUOTE]
mfbr of 95 on a 29LP task? 3.3 large primes? If this isn't a typo or two, I am very curious how these settings came about.

RichD 2018-08-03 14:45

Corrected
 
C209 from the OPN MWRB file.
[CODE]n: 98241296356084241168465133942857655218108719499892028963843575639947634153532790082339484776012645540154633301616671788679252980954603143610382231030892059409649271581721911881081892203568018552709101405348781
# 34939^47-1, difficulty: 218.08, skewness: 5.72, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 6.56386e+17, est. time: 312.56 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.718
c6: 1
c5: 0
c4: 0
c3: 0
c2: 0
c1: 0
c0: -34939
Y1: -1
Y0: 2220668672819138726094113295527117281
m: 2220668672819138726094113295527117281
type: snfs
rlim: 16500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 85
mfba: 58
rlambda: 3.6
alambda: 2.5[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
12M 12046
20M 10134
30M 8515
40M 7703
50M 6592[/CODE]

swellman 2018-08-06 11:39

[b]QUEUED AS C243_149_53[/b]
C243_149_53 is ready for SNFS on 15e.
[code]
n: 748995589879561846375212636726920309814480837316761441042249690745990335428226270431061137780447681421280504079631456771057518667163753646445855702585507839791216254182671308797860294592280551078384053790004252622570970587847362768578828595477
# 149^53+53^149, difficulty: 260.37, anorm: 1.78e+038, rnorm: -1.39e+049
# scaled difficulty: 262.18, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 4.033e-013, alpha = 0.882, combined = 6.112e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 260
skew: 1.1880
c6: 53
c0: 149
Y1: -12790771483610519443342791266451996229460693
Y0: 36197319879620191349
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5k:
[code]
Q=40M 15466
Q=70M 13667
Q=120M 13006
Q=180M 11048
Q=250M 10519
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 40-230M with a target number of relations = 470M

swellman 2018-08-06 11:40

[b]QUEUED AS C154_M31_k78[/b]
C154_M31_k78 from the kosta project is ready for GNFS, if it is not too simple a task for 14e. Just trying to feed the hungry grid.
[code]
n: 7082204369817702280087195885920892869283015272680507742430103692549231128957198054316157199151149816547329382712403410413479451917483027673558041543802819
skew: 5460952.45
c0: 23263486785403880872099456862879599243
c1: 47787450085421484375544215073451
c2: -20886381511901308960931369
c3: -2150488533789039467
c4: 664792614286
c5: 48336
Y0: -681050864955612674664313859370
Y1: 324652063903483
# size 5.661e-15, alpha -6.633, combined = 3.143e-12 rroots = 5
rlim: 33500000
alim: 33500000
lpbr: 29
lpba: 29
mfbr: 58
mfba: 58
rlambda: 2.5
alambda: 2.5
[/code]


Test sieving on the -a side with Q in blocks of 10K
[code]
Q=15M 19856
Q=30M 18054
Q=50M 14671
[/code]
Which fell out nicely, suggesting a range for Q of 15-50M with a target number of relations = 60M.

RichD 2018-08-06 15:48

[b]QUEUED AS C194_599182669_23[/b]
C194 from the MWRB file with OPN weight of 4536.
[ a.k.a. Phi_23(Phi_3(42397)/3) ]
[CODE]n: 12773307000250161043341422327008947461002549083473770090304844716449457701893441571183676983273731326221672466234139051006232922584747470324720732635765553494441500814788207683476842440733562531
# 599182669^23-1, difficulty: 210.66, skewness: 29.04, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 3.52714e+17, est. time: 167.96 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 29.035
c6: 1
c0: -599182669
Y1: -1
Y0: 128895267650763720238753652587800721
type: snfs
rlim: 33500000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
16M 17141
20M 16772
60M 10986[/CODE]

swellman 2018-08-07 15:08

Odd Sieving Behavior
 
[B]Ignore post - see updated poly[/B] [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=493485&postcount=1552]here[/url]
[b]IGNORED AS INSTRUCTED[/b]

C243_139_70 seems ready to sieve on 15e, but I had a crash using the more recent ggnfs sievers on a Window 7 machine. Using the older sievers worked flawlessly. I do not understand why this is happening, maybe it's only a problem with Windows? The original crash happened using Yafu, but it was a ggnfs-arg(sp?) crash. Attempting to sieve it directly with the ggnfs executable quickly (< 1 minute) resulted in exit with zero yield though there was no crash reported.

Experienced the same behavior with the related polynomial c5/c1 = 16/35.

Obviously if this is going to be a problem with BOINC or NFS@Home, then it should not be queued.

I can attempt to find another polynomial entirely, say a sextic, though they be kind of ugly for this composite.

[code]
n: 174560496051579384039709377914520269677588995197425947455510105846472367794264794419625632372286184806030043728872665589817371631402925079825795745875213473370580158374288173855002701184132755506635657731564443345486569072217529816451128946571
# 139^70+70^139, difficulty: 259.22, anorm: 4.73e+031, rnorm: 2.13e+057
# scaled difficulty: 263.49, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 9.275e-018, alpha = 0.000, combined = 4.511e-014, rroots = 1
type: snfs
size: 259
skew: 2.339
c5: 1
c0: 70
Y1: -1005095210669462420559310325641
Y0: 4599865365447399609768010000000000000000000000000000
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K with the older sievers:
[code]
Q=40M 10583
Q=70M 11363
Q=120M 12671
Q=180M 11768
Q=250M 12099
[/code]
Shifting the range upward a bit, the suggested sieving range for Q is 50M-245M with the target number of relations = 465M.

RichD 2018-08-08 01:21

[b]QUEUED AS C228_23827_53[/b]
C228 from the MWRB file with an OPN weight of 6020.
[CODE]n: 405158727069586612066451362861616351788202754107454976650042519513176468103143244292632262898001176374717182265003039291783889940323576544729014274699183636507724244717427232606476324809111302453739895130462222978479110970987641
# 23827^53-1, difficulty: 236.36, skewness: 5.36, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 2.87989e+18, est. time: 1371.38 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 5.364
c6: 1
c0: -23827
Y1: -1
Y0: 2475279718335771100812217009015247235187
type: snfs
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
18M 11760
20M 11935
60M 8987
100M 8301
150M 6654[/CODE]

swellman 2018-08-09 10:14

[b]QUEUED AS C234_139_70[/b]
A better, siever-friendly alternative to [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=493366&postcount=1550]the poly in post 1550 for C243_139_70[/url] (i.e. no crashes). Ready for 15e.

[code]
n: 174560496051579384039709377914520269677588995197425947455510105846472367794264794419625632372286184806030043728872665589817371631402925079825795745875213473370580158374288173855002701184132755506635657731564443345486569072217529816451128946571
# 139^70+70^139, difficulty: 256.47, anorm: 2.33e+039, rnorm: -8.88e+048
# scaled difficulty: 258.07, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 2.867e-013, alpha = -0.044, combined = 4.835e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 256
skew: 10.5161
c6: 1
c0: 1352470
Y1: -2736874734008091634300000000000000000000000
Y0: 52020869037289085480011921
rlim: 268000000
alim: 268000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K
[code]
Q=40M 13384
Q=70M 11680
Q=120M 10857
Q=180M 9465
Q=250M 8921
Q=350M 8364
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 40-270M with a target number of relations = 470M.


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