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[QUOTE=swellman;486865][b]QUEUED[/b] C229_151_42 is ready for SNFS on 14e. Last 14e in my stores.
[code] n: 1102417068447110828974330387319614606833947746041503077867648379042331914001941722688011464435548663098126330974444255295476735778999607110151139584098525740184596427948553032403054613968391022558764428920771666069942700842508993 type: snfs size: 245 skew: 1.86441 c0: 42 c6: 1 Y1: 38126967124946768663101433365298971410432 Y0: -1789940649848551 rlim: 268000000 alim: 268000000 lpbr: 32 lpba: 32 mfbr: 64 mfba: 64 rlambda: 2.8 alambda: 2.8 [/code] Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 5K [code] Q=20M 11483 Q=80M 8730 Q=150M 6265 Q=250M 4660 Q=350M 4104 [/code] Suggesting a sieving range of 20M-400M with a target number of relations = 460M.[/QUOTE] C229_151_42 appears to producing at a prodigious yield, far greater than my test sieving results above. So high that I find 14e’s results difficult to believe. Is there an issue with 14e? Lots of dups? Inspection of the poly file from 14e shows nothing obvious. |
[QUOTE=swellman;487344]C229_151_42 appears to producing at a prodigious yield, far greater than my test sieving results above. So high that I find 14e’s results difficult to believe.
Is there an issue with 14e? Lots of dups? Inspection of the poly file from 14e shows nothing obvious.[/QUOTE] Are you sure that your test sieving was over 5k rather than 2k ranges? I have run [code] /work/math/gnfs-lasieve4I14e snfs -r -f 150000000 -c 5000 [/code] and see 6597 relations by Q=150002063 [code] total yield: 15968, q=150005021 (0.11933 sec/rel) [/code] is quite close to 5/2 of the claimed yield |
I think I see what may have happened - the previous job I test sieved was C167_M31_k33, a GNFS job. Test sieved on the -a side. May have then immediately used the same scripts to test sieve C229_151_42. Embarrassed apologies.
Thank you for taking this uglier than it should be job. |
C241 from the OPN MWRB file with OPN weight nearly 24K.
[CODE]n: 1465198448177965428772026990227075055702727441032985216293696461981941574813770882021969879133562225263889540648065878923236437280161477935898854454731228974338074953129161253134126152495378305301918303763757927109426114532655728650934645831 # 13829^59-1, difficulty: 248.45, skewness: 6.73, alpha: 0.00 # cost: 7.37407e+18, est. time: 3511.46 GHz days (not accurate yet!) skew: 6.732 c5: 1 c0: -13829 Y1: -1 Y0: 48920323413279685134888105908255791411939427791441 type: snfs rlim: 134000000 alim: 268000000 lpbr: 32 lpba: 32 mfbr: 64 mfba: 95 rlambda: 2.7 alambda: 3.6[/CODE] Trial sieving 5K blocks. [CODE] Q Yield 20M 6484 60M 7328 100M 8315 150M 7586 200M 7368 300M 6913 400M 6279[/CODE] |
[QUOTE=swellman;487376]I think I see what may have happened - the previous job I test sieved was C167_M31_k33, a GNFS job. Test sieved on the -a side. May have then immediately used the same scripts to test sieve C229_151_42. Embarrassed apologies.
Thank you for taking this uglier than it should be job.[/QUOTE] Confirmed the above did NOT happen. Reran C229_151_42 for 5K with Q=20M on the -r side and got 11483 relations. Odd. Maybe it is machine or siever dependent? I’ll rerun the test sieving this evening on another machine/environment. All my boxes are Win64, if that matters. |
[b]QUEUED AS C212_157xx799_13[/b]
C212 from the OPN t600 file. [ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_31(11)/50159/2428541)/79/<p30> ] [CODE]n: 28074502122564319908979181531967537616095668707384454473748919573561082001884566015915909261090700889679832915180616153494785635778300687649218819936786961125157204537625400997331224951086304617912441364997580901 # 157571957584602258799^13-1, difficulty: 242.37, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10 # cost: 4.612e+18, est. time: 2196.19 GHz days (not accurate yet!) skew: 1.000 c6: 1 c5: 1 c4: -5 c3: -4 c2: 6 c1: 3 c0: -1 Y1: -157571957584602258799 Y0: 24828921817043693312917600278892972922402 type: snfs rlim: 67000000 alim: 134000000 lpbr: 31 lpba: 31 mfbr: 61 mfba: 61 rlambda: 2.6 alambda: 2.6[/CODE] Trial sieving 5K blocks. [CODE] Q Yield 20M 12319 60M 10064 100M 8778 150M 6902[/CODE] |
[QUOTE=swellman;487408]Confirmed the above did NOT happen. Reran C229_151_42 for 5K with Q=20M on the -r side and got 11483 relations. Odd. Maybe it is machine or siever dependent? I’ll rerun the test sieving this evening on another machine/environment. All my boxes are Win64, if that matters.[/QUOTE]
Repeated this exercise on another machine with the [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=18043] newer ggnfs sievers[/url]. Got 23767 relations on a 5K block of Q. I knew the newer sievers were faster but had never noticed such disparity in yield. Mystery solved, and I’ll not use the old sievers again! |
[b]QUEUED AS C202_31_173[/b]
C202 from the OPN t600 file. [CODE]n: 2905727676062406581210143813463355281321549043490114270159566965555133147925016922068597211500273316200934979655112275928267750162727044710845265351725732582843332610215496302023194109196714634798893557 # 31^173-1, difficulty: 259.50, skewness: 1.77, alpha: 0.00 # cost: 1.70111e+19, est. time: 8100.53 GHz days (not accurate yet!) skew: 1.772 c6: 1 c0: -31 Y1: -1 Y0: 17761887753093897979823770061456102763834271 type: snfs rlim: 268000000 alim: 536000000 lpbr: 32 lpba: 32 mfbr: 64 mfba: 94 rlambda: 2.6 alambda: 3.6[/CODE] Trial sieving 5K blocks. [CODE] Q Yield 30M 10818 90M 9676 150M 8316 250M 7390 350M 7003[/CODE] |
[b]QUEUED AS C191_295xx029_13[/b]
C191 from the OPN t600 file. [ a.k.a. Phi_13(Phi_3(Phi_29(13)/1973/2843/3539)/3/11959/85093/79236309623407)/<p32> ] [CODE]n: 12794062033878655457450355776266486437430348094623888074791572090516980553375503615389937683920201291889580924137859987844778415030061375032797695148998297559103483481688024256497772362510753 # 2959025653654433029^13-1, difficulty: 221.65, skewness: 1.00, alpha: 3.10 # cost: 8.81455e+17, est. time: 419.74 GHz days (not accurate yet!) skew: 1.000 c6: 1 c5: 1 c4: -5 c3: -4 c2: 6 c1: 3 c0: -1 Y1: -2959025653654433029 Y0: 8755832818985044651391268463446114842 type: snfs rlim: 17000000 alim: 34000000 lpbr: 29 lpba: 29 mfbr: 58 mfba: 58 rlambda: 2.5 alambda: 2.5[/CODE] Trial sieving 5K blocks. [CODE] Q Yield 6M 9836 10M 8908 20M 7450 40M 5587 50M 5081[/CODE] |
The best poly so far, for the C174_M127_k24, at 50% complete with CADO.
Is this good enough? Test sieving with some unoptimized param gave yield 8160 @6M, but i am not sure i did this right :-( [CODE] n: 94410615373218704797201510125651849712559525623382519147033843966374414757318643595714477201887765034604269728700950434464990003242159016268314282962617716190928317011619566657 Y0: -7471849389251086201749091300586895 Y1: 708649660173940995547 c0: 2621705914649230171819209755822160165162 c1: -993914513963741328984046025976199 c2: -1358186992798631904082561818 c3: 265509778204990369114 c4: -243054615251784 c5: -12161880 skew: 2530302.065 # lognorm 53.49, E 47.81, alpha -5.68 (proj -2.31), 3 real roots # MurphyE(Bf=1.00e+07,Bg=5.00e+06,area=1.00e+16)=1.30e-13 # Average exp_E: 47.62, average E: 47.81 [/CODE] |
[QUOTE=kosta;487728]The best poly so far, for the C174_M127_k24, at 50% complete with CADO.
Is this good enough?[/quote] That looks a perfectly reasonable polynomial. Test-sieving results are only meaningful if you list the limits and the command line used: with [code] lpbr: 32 lpba: 32 mfbr: 64 mfba: 64 alambda: 2.6 rlambda: 2.6 alim: 268000000 rlim: 268000000 [/code] I get [code] > ./gnfs-lasieve4I14e -a M127_k24.gnfs -f 268000000 -c 999 total yield: 1638, q=268001011 (0.34965 sec/rel) > ./gnfs-lasieve4I15e -a M127_k24.gnfs -f 268000000 -c 1000 total yield: 3824, q=268001011 (0.21752 sec/rel) > ./gnfs-lasieve4I16e -a M127_k24.gnfs -f 268000001 -c 999 total yield: 8517, q=268001011 (0.23832 sec/rel) [/code] so, unless you tell me not to in the next day, I will queue this on 14e (it's much less efficient than 15e, but the queue is much shorter so it will get done quicker) |
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