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RichD 2017-10-03 01:05

[b]queued[/b] C192 from the OPN t600 file.
[CODE]n: 414293302092344017554661357329277202485278098895744995614721477118078507284151687520161679071795586391997371495642459917192518894462751183367401397961778517836686348168898838352646064970952651
# 249541^41-1, difficulty: 226.68, skewness: 7.93, alpha: 0.00
# cost: 1.32785e+18, est. time: 632.31 GHz days (not accurate yet!)
skew: 7.935
c6: 1
c0: -249541
Y1: -1
Y0: 60255039831511724428874194299741430381
m: 60255039831511724428874194299741430381
type: snfs
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6[/CODE]
Trial sieving 2K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 8115
50M 6087
80M 4922
110M 4751[/CODE]

RichD 2017-10-03 03:49

Correction to the above post.
Trial sieving [B]5K[/B] blocks.

swellman 2017-10-03 14:49

Another for 15e
 
[b]queued[/b] C222_141_62 is ready for SNFS as a 15e/31 job.
[code]
n: 972321105743081656979376997770755626021809788244648150121626742682893357818356078629936773839300186077348832447590209404560750435134166496197530649467144877594353187819630800027157225839553392840662199269876640383429889629
# 141^62+62^141, difficulty: 254.52, anorm: 2.22e+033, rnorm: 8.64e+055
# scaled difficulty: 258.28, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 8.099e-018, alpha = 0.000, combined = 4.746e-014, rroots = 1
type: snfs
size: 254
skew: 3.1711
c5: 62
c0: 19881
Y1: -61748917974902741368975281
Y0: 153803885110405674678434597293100547399764930461696
rlim: 134000000
alim: 134000000
lpbr: 31
lpba: 31
mfbr: 62
mfba: 62
rlambda: 2.7
alambda: 2.7
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 2K.
[code]
Q=20M rels=2116
Q=80M rels=1958
Q=150M rels=2078
Q=200M rels=2119
Q=250M rels=1904[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 20M-260M with target # rels = 240M.

RichD 2017-10-04 15:30

[b]QUEUED[/b] C161 from the OPN t550 file.
[CODE]n: 18240051261562921058567070311861891715172678007177798917429354382357183300885632657444483979332189347244110527138705974473160994107001905334487636771142410048269
# 3613045528091^17-1 - GNFS-161
lss: 0
Y0: -13937843400604410542946244759611
Y1: 313390996726672401239
c0: -381675828186169124255846117946454368480
c1: 2371909260583519175557816411813204
c2: 39299843186916850157004264
c3: -58080752133083914273
c4: -328301327070
c5: 104040
skew: 11621349.00763
rlim: 67000000
alim: 67000000
lpbr: 30
lpba: 30
mfbr: 60
mfba: 60
rlambda: 2.6
alambda: 2.6
type: gnfs[/CODE]
Trial sieving 5K blocks.
[CODE] Q Yield
20M 10298
50M 10442
80M 8633[/CODE]

swellman 2017-10-05 10:46

C202_137_75 Status
 
[QUOTE=fivemack;468249]Thank you for all the options!

I have put this one in as a 14/33, I think 400M is rather low for 33LP; if you don't mind, could you try post-processing when it hits the Q=400M mark, and we can add more relations if that doesn't work.[/QUOTE]

Attempted to postprocess C202_137_75 @TD=70 with Q=400M and 542M+ raw relations. Didn't even make it through filtering, msieve demands more relations.

How about bumping Q up to 450M? [b]done[/b]

VBCurtis 2017-10-05 17:10

[QUOTE=swellman;469281]Attempted to postprocess C202_137_75 @TD=70 with Q=400M and 542M+ raw relations. Didn't even make it through filtering, msieve demands more relations.

How about bumping Q up to 450M? [b]done[/b][/QUOTE]

I'm afraid that won't be enough; 400M was set as a checkpoint for us to estimate how much Q would be needed to reach 720-750M rels. I'm filtering the other 14e/33 job tonight/tomorrow, so I'll have data on how many rels will be needed for this. Q=450M won't be enough, as you're gonna need 700M rels at minimum; 750M is likely necessary to get a tractable matrix. My rule of thumb is that for same-difficulty jobs, increasing LP by 1 increases raw relations needed by 70%. 32 -> 33 is a region I haven't yet explored, but we would want 450M(?) 32LP relations for this job; this suggests we'll want 750-760M 33LP rels. We'll find out soon how accurate the 70% estimate is!

swellman 2017-10-05 17:12

FYI, [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=468918&postcount=1173]C215_147_53 is ready for SNFS on 15e[/url]. Just pointing it out before it gets lost in the rear view.

I will avoid proposing anymore 15e jobs for a while. We seem to have enough. Thanks.

VBCurtis 2017-10-06 14:41

C226_143_57 update
 
Our first 14e/33 job was filtered last night. 729M raw relations produced 592M unique via remdups4. Filtering with target_density=140 produced a matrix with density 83, so the number is quite oversieved.

So, C202_137_75 might be good to go with just 700-720M raw relations. I'm re-running filtering today with 560M unique relations to see if I get a smaller matrix.

VBCurtis 2017-10-07 18:30

580M unique relations produced 23.5M matrix with density 95.
560M unique relations produced 22.6M matrix with density 111.
540M unique relations produced 21.9M matrix with density 136.
Each density is as reported during filtering phase; I began LA on the first matrix, and the log reports sparse part has density 72. So, I'm running a 23.5M matrix of density 72, with ETA around 600 hours (I use the machine for other tasks, so ETA isn't very accurate anyway).

swellman 2017-10-08 16:15

[QUOTE=swellman;469281]Attempted to postprocess C202_137_75 @TD=70 with Q=400M and 542M+ raw relations. Didn't even make it through filtering, msieve demands more relations.

How about bumping Q up to 450M? [b]done[/b][/QUOTE]

Well, adding 50M additional Q is projected to add ~55M relations for a total of 596M raw relations. And from the recent findings of VBCurtis that won’t be near enough for a 14e/33 job. Suggest Q be bumped up to 550M. From there we can bump it up in smaller increments until the matrix builds successfully at TD=70.

Or just bump Q up to 500M if there’s a risk of overshooting the minimum number of relations. I’ll keep at it until we build a good matrix. But 596M raw relations isn’t going to do it I think.

swellman 2017-10-09 00:52

[b]QUEUED[/b] C228_137_69 is ready for SNFS as a 14e/32 job. Uses [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=469061&postcount=1176]a tip suggested by VBCurtis[/url]. Thanks!
[code]
n: 288586883064120353283752244127022318083321958689563012149474062888848914428054547248965781086918169929312487672089154962646543872755426023525435015307429819367951025596622808788595557023408258148610859799175375821689424729570031
# 137^69+69^137, difficulty: 253.76, anorm: 2.66e+040, rnorm: 4.04e+047
# scaled difficulty: 254.96, suggest sieving rational side
# size = 3.595e-013, alpha = 0.000, combined = 5.871e-014, rroots = 0
type: snfs
size: 253
skew: 23.7047
c6: 1
c0: 177423357
Y1: -319099584516184696444313
Y0: 1965753632901132991452851230906979378964909
rlim: 268000000
alim: 450000000
lpbr: 32
lpba: 32
mfbr: 64
mfba: 64
rlambda: 2.8
alambda: 2.8
[/code]


Test sieving on the -r side with Q in blocks of 2K
[code]
Q=20M rels=3491
Q=80M rels=2462
Q=150M rels=2249
Q=250M rels=2227
Q=350M rels=1687
Q=450M rels=1667
[/code]
Suggesting a sieving range for Q of 20M-470M with a target # rels=480M.


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