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kladner 2014-09-25 15:23

Holder to resign?
 
[URL]http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/eric-holder-to-resign[/URL]

There have been mixed messages on this.

EDIT: FWIW, NYT is running the story.
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/us/politics/eric-holder-resigning-as-attorney-general.html[/url]

science_man_88 2014-09-25 17:26

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/eric-holder-to-resign--set-up-confirmation-battle-151530949.html"]Eric Holder to resign, set up confirmation battle[/URL]

[QUOTE]After a stormy 5½-year tenure, Attorney General Eric Holder will formally announce Thursday that he plans to resign as the nation’s top law enforcement officer, two sources told Yahoo News.[/QUOTE]

ewmayer 2014-09-25 19:47

So, most useless AG ever, or merely Top-5?

Actually, if you are/were an exec of a crooked TBTF bank, Holder was very useful, in a decline-to-prosecute kind of way.

The word "bank" appears not once in the mostly-fawning NYT piece.

kladner 2014-09-25 21:16

[QUOTE=ewmayer;383844].....
The word "bank" appears not once in the mostly-fawning NYT piece.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that. I don't have much access to the Times. That is a key point of his tenure: no bankers in jail.

Brian-E 2014-09-25 22:32

Here's a positive assessment of Eric Holder's tenure, highlighting the effective way he upheld the need for equal treatment for all citizens:

[URL]http://www.pfaw.org/press-releases/2014/09/pfaw-foundation-statement-resignation-attorney-general-holder[/URL]

[QUOTE][...]Perhaps most importantly, Eric Holder has taken meaningful action to address systems of racial discrimination that have caused our nation to fall far short of the promises of our founding documents. We applaud his willingness to confront and challenge laws that threaten the right of all citizens to cast a vote and have it count.[...][/QUOTE]

ewmayer 2014-09-25 22:35

It seems one must look [url=http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/09/200pm-water-cooler-92514.html]outside the MSM[/url] for commentary on Holder's kid-gloves treatment of the TBTF sector:

[url]http://blogs.seattletimes.com/jontalton/2014/09/25/the-touchable-holder-and-the-rackets/[/url]

NBtarheel_33 2014-09-26 03:46

Let's not forget "Fast and Furious" and the associated backfire on our own border patrol agents.

I wonder if Holder just wants out of Dodge before the next racially-entwined police peccadillo goes down somewhere.

CRGreathouse 2014-09-26 13:21

[QUOTE=NBtarheel_33;383866]Let's not forget "Fast and Furious" and the associated backfire on our own border patrol agents.

I wonder if Holder just wants out of Dodge before the next racially-entwined police peccadillo goes down somewhere.[/QUOTE]

That an ill-advised operation happened on his watch doesn't bother me. We hope for competence in our AGs, not perfection. But that he apparently failed to oversee it at all was a bit of a sore spot, and the fact that he refused to turn over subpoenaed documents to Congress seems, well... it makes it look like he was covering something up.

He did a lot of good work, like on the VRA. His choice not to enforce DOMA was probably the best way to defuse the situation (ok, not that much, but compared to the political fight if any other route was taken) while getting us where we had to go. But I don't think these achievements will be remembered; people will instead think of banks, Fast and Furious, and surveillance of journalists.

R.D. Silverman 2014-09-26 13:55

[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;383883]That an ill-advised operation happened on his watch doesn't bother me. We hope for competence in our AGs, not perfection. But that he apparently failed to oversee it at all was a bit of a sore spot, and the fact that he refused to turn over subpoenaed documents to Congress seems, well... it makes it look like he was covering something up.

He did a lot of good work, like on the VRA. His choice not to enforce DOMA was probably the best way to defuse the situation (ok, not that much, but compared to the political fight if any other route was taken) while getting us where we had to go. But I don't think these achievements will be remembered; people will instead think of banks, Fast and Furious, and surveillance of journalists.[/QUOTE]

What about a failure to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice
for torturing prisoners? What about failure to turn over these people
to the Intl. Court in the Hague to be tried for war crimes?

I will certainly remember him for his TOTAL failure to prosecute anyone
for the fraud that caused the financial meltdown in 2007/2008.

CRGreathouse 2014-09-26 13:56

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;383884]What about a failure to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice
for torturing prisoners? What about failure to turn over these people
to the Intl. Court in the Hague to be tried for war crimes?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if I want to hold him responsible here. Probably his boss had the final call on each of these.

kladner 2014-09-26 15:27

[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;383885]I'm not sure if I want to hold him responsible here. Probably his boss had the final call on each of these.[/QUOTE]

Where the banks are concerned, he had stated his position years before this administration. That probably had something to do with his selection. Certainly, in any of these areas, the President would have set the standards, such as they are.
[QUOTE]I wonder if Holder just wants out of Dodge before the next racially-entwined police peccadillo goes down somewhere. [/QUOTE]
He is already coming up on being the third-longest-serving AG. It is hardly surprising that he might move on.
[QUOTE]What about a failure to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice for torturing prisoners?[/QUOTE]
.....and Yoo, and Bybee, and a host of other evil minions.


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