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Mark Rose 2014-08-28 04:59

The Pomegranate Me thread
 
Someone talk me out of spending $300 on getting another GTX 580 and a better power supply.

fivemack 2014-08-28 07:31

It's not $300, it's $300 + $200 per year for as long as you keep the card.

And in hot summers the system will sometimes hang with two GPUs when it would have kept on trucking with one.

TheMawn 2014-08-28 07:49

$300 would look much better in your savings account and someone else would be thrilled to find your factors.

xilman 2014-08-28 08:17

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;381606]Someone talk me out of spending $300 on getting another GTX 580 and a better power supply.[/QUOTE]You should not be spending all that money. Some of it should be reclaimed by selling-on the old PSU.

kladner 2014-08-28 08:26

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;381606]Someone talk me out of spending $300 on getting another GTX 580 and a better power supply.[/QUOTE]

If you are going to run two 580s, make that supply at least a 1050 W, better still a 1200 W. What are you running now?

Sorry. I am no help with your request regarding temperance.

fivemack 2014-08-28 08:49

I'm not seeing more than 600W at the plug for i7/4930K and two GTX580s; I'm using a 1kW modular PSU ([url]http://www.scan.co.uk/search.aspx?q=RSA00-AFBAG1[/url]), and monitoring power with a Kill-A-Watt-equivalent plug-through widget from Maplin.

xilman was unable to get the same GTX580 card that I'm using (literally the same one - I bought a pair, then thought two was excessive and tried to sell him one) to work with the PSU he had; on the other hand I think that PSU exploded a few months later.

xilman 2014-08-28 12:33

[QUOTE=fivemack;381638]xilman was unable to get the same GTX580 card that I'm using (literally the same one - I bought a pair, then thought two was excessive and tried to sell him one) to work with the PSU he had; on the other hand I think that PSU exploded a few months later.[/QUOTE]The PSUs of both systems in which I tried the 580 are still working just fine. Each PSU should be capable of powering the card with ease and I've still no idea why it didn't work in either system. Very odd.

Perhaps there are BIOS inadequacies in my boxes, though that proposal is very much clutching at straws. It's consistent with my now vague memories that the 580 wasn't recognized and/or initialized by the BIOS in at least one system.


Paul

Mark Rose 2014-08-28 14:31

In the system I'd consider adding the second GTX 580, has a Haswell 4770 with three cores used for mprime, on-board Intel for driving the display, and a GTX 580 and a GT 430 used solely for trial factoring. It's got a [url=http://www.corsair.com/en/cx-series-cx500m-modular-atx-power-supply-500-watt-80-plus-bronze-certified-modular-psu]Corsair CX500m[/url] 500 watt power supply that's drawing 465 watts at the wall as measured by a Kill-o-watt (assuming 83% efficiency, it's supplying 385 watts) . When I added the GTX 580 doing TF it added about 250 watts of at-the-wall consumption (50 watts when doing nothing). I figure a 750 watt power supply would handle the second GTX 580 fine, and fivemack's measurements would seem to confirm that.

kladner 2014-08-28 14:36

[QUOTE=fivemack;381638]I'm not seeing more than 600W at the plug for i7/4930K and two GTX580s; I'm using a 1kW modular PSU ([URL]http://www.scan.co.uk/search.aspx?q=RSA00-AFBAG1[/URL]), and monitoring power with a Kill-A-Watt-equivalent plug-through widget from Maplin.

xilman was unable to get the same GTX580 card that I'm using (literally the same one - I bought a pair, then thought two was excessive and tried to sell him one) to work with the PSU he had; on the other hand I think that PSU exploded a few months later.[/QUOTE]

I have to acknowledge that my comment above is based on an AMD FX-8350 system. It may also relate to a suspect OCZ 1 KW PSU. I was having stability issues when there was a 580 and a 570 in the system.

The Kill a Watt says that it is drawing 550 W with a single 580. It reads 365 W with the GPU at idle.

Mark Rose 2014-09-02 23:42

Well.... I ended up spending $240 :banana:

I got a Corsair CX750m power supply on sale, and it's now drawing 760 watts from the wall running two GTX 580's and a 4770 (so internal draw is about 640 watts, about 85% of capacity). I'm going to need more air into and through the case though.

TheMawn 2014-09-03 00:29

760 Watts for a CPU and two GTX 580's? Wow.

Mark Rose 2014-09-03 00:33

[QUOTE=TheMawn;381966]760 Watts for a CPU and two GTX 580's? Wow.[/QUOTE]

Without the GTX 580's, the system draws 30 watts idle and 120 watts with 3 cores running mprime (I've only got 1600 MHz RAM, so running more than 3 cores makes no sense).

Mark Rose 2014-09-25 21:56

And now the GTX 580's have really gone on sale. Seeing them as cheap as $125.

Mark Rose 2015-01-23 20:49

Tempted to pick up another GTX 580 for $100...

Xyzzy 2015-01-23 21:16

What do you pay per kWh?

Mark Rose 2015-01-23 22:43

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;393360]What do you pay per kWh?[/QUOTE]

At home, $0.15. I have the GTX 760 and a GT 430 there. Tempted to get a 970 or 980, because the 760 has trouble keeping up with the games I play.

At work, $0.00. It's included in the rent. There I have two GTX 580's, two GT 520's, and a GT 430.

Xyzzy 2015-01-24 00:01

[QUOTE=Mark Rose;393371]At work, $0.00. It's included in the rent. There I have two GTX 580's, two GT 520's, and a GT 430.[/QUOTE]:ttu:


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