[QUOTE=cheesehead;375365]You seem to think that repeating what's already been in plain print somehow makes it more forceful.

... and I've already repeatedly refuted the invalid assertion that that connection means that the discussion of all three must reside in the same thread. (Did my repetition make that any more forceful in your mind? Apparently not.)

Yes, you've been Ernst's toady for quite a while.

Anything Ernst wants seems appropriate to you.[/QUOTE]Richard: please let it drop. I'm quite sure that everyone reading this thread, and several other threads for that matter, are well aware of your views on Ernst's behaviour and are fully capable of assigning blame, if any, on the evidence presented.

One or two other participants, mentioning no names but you can probably guess, are also stuck in the rut of repeating the same old views time after time after time. While I have some sympathy with those views, which may or may not include yours, it does eventually become very tedious --- a response which reduces sympathy regardless of worthiness.

I try hard not to be anyone's toady. You may remember that I slapped down both you and Ernst equally on a previous occasion when the "discussion" had become too heated.


Paul

[STRIKE]I coulda sworn there was a post defending Richard's POV. Was that in another thread?[/STRIKE]OK. There still is. I see where this split off.
I've stated my views, and tried to stay clear since.

However, I must emphasize that I am not in thrall to Ernst. I read with interest many of the articles he links to. I generally occupy a different part of the politico-economic opinion spectrum than Ernst, but don't want to mix it up at the level of discourse on which he plays.

[QUOTE=xilman;375367]Richard: please let it drop.[/QUOTE]I'll be glad to, [I]just as soon as moderators take action that's effective in persuading Ernst to drop his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior.[/I]

[quote]I'm quite sure that everyone reading this thread, and several other threads for that matter, are well aware of your views on Ernst's behaviour and are fully capable of assigning blame, if any, on the evidence presented.[/quote]Yet, [I]no action happens, and so Ernst has no reason to drop his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior.[/I]

[I]Do you really think it was compatible with this forum's Code of Conduct for Ernst to allege that I have a mental illness that interferes with my perception of reality?[/I]

[I]Do you really think it has been, and continues to be, compatible with this forum's Code of Conduct for Ernst to conduct a long-term campaign of character assassination to persuade other forum participants, through the underhanded method of destroying my reputation, to disregard my factually-based criticisms of Ernst?[/I]

(If your answer to either question is "yes", you have a lot of explaining to do!)

If your answer to those two questions is "no", what action will you take to persuade Ernst to drop his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior and when will you take it?

[quote]One or two other participants, mentioning no names but you can probably guess, are also stuck in the rut of repeating the same old views time after time after time.[/quote]Do, they, like Ernst, use that repetition for a long-term campaign to assassinate my character to try (and sometimes succeed) to persuade other participants to disregard my criticism of Ernst, or, worse, persuade a few unwary participants that I actually have a mental illness that interferes with my perception of reality?

[quote]While I have some sympathy with those views, which may or may not include yours, it does eventually become very tedious[/quote] ... precisely because moderators take no action to dissuade Ernst from his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior!

[I]Until you take that action, Ernst has no reason to change, and my complaint will continue, thus the tedium will go on.[/I] You moderators collectively DO have it in your power to stop the tedium by taking action that's effective in persuading Ernst to drop his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior, as demonstrated in the past (see below). When will you take that, or some other effective, action?

[quote] --- a response which reduces sympathy regardless of worthiness.[/quote]I try not to let the tedium reduce my sympathy for the moderators who refuse to take action that's effective in persuading Ernst to drop his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior. But I do wish you'd go ahead and take that action ... because Ernst won't change his behavior until you do. (Oh, he'll lay low for a while now that I've made a fuss, but then as soon as he thinks you're not paying attention, he'll resume, just as he has in the past. Only specific action will persuade him to change more permanently.)

[quote]I try hard not to be anyone's toady.[/quote]... and I've seen no evidence that anyone but Chalsall has been.

[quote]You may remember that I slapped down both you and Ernst equally on a previous occasion when the "discussion" had become too heated.[/quote][I]Do YOU remember that after that, Ernst suspended his Code-of-Coduct-violating behavior for a couple of weeks?[/I] That demonstrates that what I'm asking for -- action that persuades Ernst to drop his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior -- is well within the capability of moderators to achieve.

I'm not asking for anything more extreme than you've already employed against Ernst in the past (unless Ernst demonstrates that what you've employed in the past is no longer effective). Of course, I have no objection to some different course of action ... as long as it also is shown to be effective in persuading Ernst to drop his Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior.

[QUOTE=kladner;375371]However, I must emphasize that I am not in thrall to Ernst.[/QUOTE]... and I've seen no evidence that you are, either.

[QUOTE=cheesehead;375381][i]Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior.[/I]...

[i]Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior.[/I]...

[I]Code of Conduct[/I]...

[I]Code of Conduct[/I]...

Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior...

Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior!

[I]Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior...[/i]

Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior.

[I]Code-of-Coduct-violating behavior... -- Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior...[/i]

Code-of-Conduct-violating behavior.[/QUOTE]

Did I catch them all? Now, I want you to show where, in the discussion leading up to and interspersed in your latest posting tantrum, there were such on my part. Not dredging up old grievances which you clearly have not managed to put behind you, not subjective judgments about what is "on topic" for a particular thread and where you failed to convince most of the "Folks" who commented to your way of thinking - actual clear and present breaches of your 11-times-mentioned-in-one-post code of conduct. Because if you're going to repeat it that many times like a broken record, it must be really plain and really obvious, right?

Also, as you have accused first Paul and now Chris of being my "toadies" - seriously, you think Chris is my "thrall"? He and I bicker almost as much as you and I did back when I still allowed you to waste lots of my time - who is really engaging in character-slurring here? For someone who feels so victimized, you seem to feel awfully free to sling the mud yourself.

WHY did you create a thread with swearing in the title?! You know I hate swearing!

[QUOTE=Stargate38;375521]WHY did you create a thread with swearing in the title?! You know I hate swearing![/QUOTE]

"Bitch" as an insult (or a complement, or a verb) is modern usage. In the past it meant "a female dog in heat".

Please forgive the moderators. We enjoy pushing the envelope of humor....

Yes. I know the part about the dog, but can you please explain why you would title a thread the official "in heat female dog, uriniate, and moan" thread? That doesn't make much sense, unless it's an in heat dog that's constipated. Strange... :huh:

[QUOTE=Stargate38;375523]Yes. I know the part about the dog, but can you please explain why you would title a thread the official "in heat female dog, uriniate, and moan" thread? That doesn't make much sense, unless it's an in heat dog that's constipated. Strange... :huh:[/QUOTE]

I didn't title this thread. But some of "the mods" are currently dealing with a child-like participant.

Being a "non-breeder" myself, I have little patience for those who say things like "if you don't do what I want, I'm going to leave and never come back!

Sounds a bit like the Québécois, or the six year old who stood in front of me yesterday blocking my view while I helped manage a very dangerous situation in a boat.

Let's not inflame the situation unnecessarily.

[QUOTE=Brian-E;375525]Let's not inflame the situation unnecessarily.[/QUOTE]

But what if necessarily? :smile: