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Algebra problem that I've been trying to solve
Does anyone have an equation for the value of x in this equation?
x^5+16*x^6+243*x^7=1 I have an approximation for the real root, but I want an exact formula for it, even if it includes an infinite series: [code]0.446223522318958869779779205880610165343221619229686782382108709788[/code] |
[QUOTE=Stargate38;374632]Does anyone have an equation for the value of x in this equation?
x^5+16*x^6+243*x^7=1[/QUOTE] Wolfram Alpha? [url]http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x%5E5%2B16*x%5E6%2B243*x%5E7%3D1[/url] |
Offhand I would guess !∃ a closed-form expression for the single real root, but perhaps it will be of use to note that the expression can be rewritten as
x^4*(x + 2^4*x^2 + 3^5*x^3) = 1 , or alternatively x^2*(1^3*x^3 + 2^4*x^4 + 3^5*x^5) = 1 . (This is unhelpful in terms of directly leading to a closed-form for the real root, but perhaps this kind of equation has been previously studied in some particular mathematical context.) |
[QUOTE=Stargate38;374632]Does anyone have an equation for the value of x in this equation?
x^5+16*x^6+243*x^7=1 I have an approximation for the real root, but I want an exact formula for it, even if it includes an infinite series: [code]0.446223522318958869779779205880610165343221619229686782382108709788[/code][/QUOTE] best I can think of is: x^5+16*x^6+243*x^7 = 1; x^5+16*(x^5)^1.2+243*(x^5)^1.4 = 1; 1+16*(x^5)^0.2 + 243*(x^5)^0.4 = 1/(x^5); 16*(x^5)^0.2+243*(x^5)^0.4 = (1-x^5)/(x^5); |
[QUOTE=ewmayer;374649]Offhand I would guess !∃ a closed-form expression for the single real root, but perhaps it will be of use to note that the expression can be rewritten as
x^4*(x + 2^4*x^2 + 3^5*x^3) = 1 , or alternatively x^2*(1^3*x^3 + 2^4*x^4 + 3^5*x^5) = 1 . (This is unhelpful in terms of directly leading to a closed-form for the real root, but perhaps this kind of equation has been previously studied in some particular mathematical context.)[/QUOTE] Sigh. People herein still refuse to learn math or use Google. It is nauseating. How hard can it be to look up "septic equation"????? Hint: It is an irreducible Septic. Yes, there is a closed form solution. But it is not algebraic and it is not elementary. It can be solved in terms of Theta functions. |
[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;374714]Sigh. People herein still refuse to learn math or use Google.
It is nauseating. Hint: It is an irreducible Septic. Yes, there is a closed form solution. But it is not algebraic and it is not elementary. It can be solved in terms of Theta functions.[/QUOTE] Oh. It is very bad form to present a polynomial this way. |
[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;374714]Sigh. People herein still refuse to learn math or use Google.
It is nauseating. How hard can it be to look up "septic equation"?????[/QUOTE] I did, but got a raft of links to antibiotic creams and iodine compounds. My google search history must differ from yours, for the results we see to be so wildly different. |
[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;374714]Hint: It is an irreducible Septic.
Yes, there is a closed form solution. But it is not algebraic and it is not elementary. It can be solved in terms of Theta functions.[/QUOTE] Not all irreducible septics are unsolvable, of course, but you're right that this one is. Its Galois group is [TEX]S_7.[/TEX] |
[QUOTE=ewmayer;374725]I did, but got a raft of links to antibiotic creams and iodine compounds. My google search history must differ from yours, for the results we see to be so wildly different.[/QUOTE]
:snicker: |
[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;374727]Not all irreducible septics are unsolvable, of course, but you're right that this one is. Its Galois group is [TEX]S_7.[/TEX][/QUOTE]
C7 would have been nicer........ |
[QUOTE=TheMawn;374733]:snicker:[/QUOTE]
Uh, huh huh huh, uh [URL=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beavis and Butthead]Beavis[/URL], you said "septic", uh huh huh huh... Whoa! They're like talking about poop in math class! Yeah! Yeah! Galois theory *kicks ass*! |
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