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NFS results and reservations
NFS methods allow the full factorization of a given composite. GNFS is much slower but is suitable for numbers of general form. SNFS is faster but is restricted to numbers of special form, e.g. sextic a*b[sup]6[/sup]+c*d[sup]6[/sup] or quintic a*b[sup]5[/sup]+c*d[sup]5[/sup] for Leyland numbers. More information about the polynomial selection is available there:
[url]http://www.mersennewiki.org/index.php/SNFS_Polynomial_Selection[/url] The measure of the difficulty is the decimal length of the polynomial value. GNFS difficulty is usually the same as the composite length, while SNFS difficulty may be much larger. Difficulty up to 165 for GNFS and up to 240 for SNFS is suitable for a single machine. Sextic SNFS polynomial is usually preferable over quintic for difficulty > 220. GNFS on a composite cofactor become faster than SNFS on a full number if GNFS difficulty is less than ~70% of SNFS difficulty. Some ECM pre-factoring is necessary to remove small factors before running an NFS job, stopping when the expected factor size is about 31% of GNFS difficulty or 22% of SNFS difficulty. E.g., t55 is enough for 175-digit GNFS or 250-digit SNFS job. There's an introduction to NFS programs written by Jeff Gilchrist: [url]http://gilchrist.ca/jeff/factoring/nfs_beginners_guide.html[/url] YAFU utility can automatically handle SNFS polynomials for Leyland numbers: [url]http://sourceforge.net/projects/yafu/[/url] You may either take a provided [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19352]SNFS[/url] / [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19353]GNFS[/url] target, or pick up a certain number from [url=http://xyyxf.at.tut.by/cmplist.txt]the list[/url] and perform manual ECM pre-factoring, taking into account the status info: [url]http://www.primefan.ru/xyyxf/status.html#0[/url] Note that your factorization may fit a Top-20: [url]http://www.primefan.ru/xyyxf/records.html#0[/url] In such a case please submit the required information (e.g. wall-clock running time). |
NFS Results
ryanp seems to have factored [url=http://www.factordb.com/index.php?query=111%5E100%2B100%5E111]C197_111_100[/url].
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ryanp has [url=http://factordb.com/index.php?query=110%5E113%2B113%5E110]fully factored the remaining cofactor of 113_110 via GNFS[/url].
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C222_115_98 fully factored
A [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?query=115%5E98%2B98%5E115"]p57 and p58[/URL] were found.
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More ryanp results
99^116+116^99 by SNFS: [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044718140"][COLOR=#0066cc]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044718140[/COLOR][/URL]
and 93^116+116^93 (SNFS) [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044712140"][COLOR=#0066cc]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044712140[/COLOR][/URL] Ryan reports that he has temporarily lost some computing power and is therefore "holding off at the moment". He will let us know when he's back factoring at full capacity. |
Reserving C168_130_71 and C168_134_94 for NFS@Home as GNFS tasks, due to the upcoming BOINC challenge.
At that difficulty, 15e would be more efficient than 14e, but if the 14e queue depletes faster than the 15e queue, they may go through 14e, I guess. |
Ryan has factored another [url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044716140[/url], via SNFS presumably.
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113_78 Factored by SNFS
Ryan nailed another one. See [url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044697137[/url].
Confirmed that the previous factor was also SNFS. |
2 More Results (SNFS)
Ryan reports the following:
101^113+113^101 -- [url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044720137[/url] 110^111+111^110 -- [url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044729135[/url] |
These two will be added as late as the next update :)
[url]http://xyyxf.at.tut.by/results.html#0[/url] |
Reserving C184_120_61
For SNFS. Thanks.
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C160_133_60
Factors by GNFS, 7 weeks.
[code] prp97 = 7082538396843516920199135230943438701049415241033476093557924014144372365566104458277792491883807 prp63 = 478018421476975832068057613522486521348371199183670859015988429 [/code] |
C160_133_47
GNFS, 14 weeks
[code] prp72 = 120048784209828540645280430753347306215307102359630838208442444100533139 prp89 = 14965850008106312445199820343633470771296879449620427859991330582950011515609194211819927 [/code] |
C163_148_50
Reserving C163_148_50 for SNFS (with a bit of preprocessing ECM).
Thanks. |
C196_112_89
According to factordb, this number was [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?query=112%5E89%2B89%5E112"]fully factored[/URL] on 9 June. Presumably by Ryan using SNFS, but this is unverified. He must be busy IRL, as he hasn't answered e-mail.
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Hope that was him :-)
[url]http://xyyxf.at.tut.by/results.html#0[/url] |
C184_120_61 Factored (SNFS)
[code]
prp86=64820580267076218837413083123642196952475956337959006868693801579029662809193550215173 prp99=150322207983195825884373262426186186539234540818588731324810662385895186905457233888336722789525031 [/code] Results reported to factordb. |
Ryan is reserving C159_127_81 for factoring by NFS.
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C175_129_50 reservation
Ryan is taking C175_129_50 for factoring with SNFS.
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127_81 factored by SNFS
Ryan's results [url=http://www.factordb.com/index.php?query=127%5E81%2B81%5E127]here[/url].
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C175_129_50 factored by SNFS
Ryan also factored C175_129_50 by SNFS. Results [url=http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044669153]here[/url].
Sorry for the lack of reservation - it took him < 1 day start to finish. |
C183_115_96 factors
Ryan found another - C183_115_96.
Results are [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044715139"]here[/URL]. |
Ryan is working a few numbers
C168_113_88 C192_115_79 C210_115_83 C221_113_100 C161_149_41 |
C192_115_79 Factored
Ryan found it via SNFS. [URL]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044698139[/URL]
p94*p99, a nice split. |
Ryan nailed another one, C210_115_83 by SNFS. See
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044702139[/url] |
C175_126_55
I would like to reserve C175_126_55 for SNFS. Results expected in early October.
Thanks. |
I noticed that there's a neglected very easy SNFS number still sitting in the composite file. (145_80, diff. 176)
I'll do it overnight, unless someone has done it actually. EDIT: done. p82 * p89. In FactorDB. |
[QUOTE=Batalov;382864]I noticed that there's a neglected very easy SNFS number still sitting in the composite file. (145_80, diff. 176)
I'll do it overnight, unless someone has done it actually. EDIT: done. p82 * p89. In FactorDB.[/QUOTE] :shock: According to my test sieving, that job would take me 4-5 weeks on my unremarkable i7. What kind of rig do you have? What poly did you use? Nice job. |
With the x[SUP]4[/SUP] - x[SUP]3[/SUP] + x[SUP]2[/SUP] - x +1 poly, it is a very easy job: 100-core hours (overnight with 12 cores).
[CODE]n: 223338679141350214286564392611794940148102227633364681044488540131751666322287884308052364320927680226370657685408223566750766331340932329490285272461466096761672036508901 c4: 1 c3: -1 c2: 1 c1: -1 c0: 1 Y1: 250246473680347348787521 Y0: -101412048018258352119736256430080000000000000 type: snfs skew: 1[/CODE] There are no more missed reducibles in the list; I've played with some possible, hidden Aurifeuillians and haven't found any. There are some powers in the list like 128_125, many more 128s, a 64, a 32, some 121s and 125s, but they don't help. All reducibles (by 3, by 5, by 7) were done ages ago. I was surprised to see this one. |
C168_113_88
Ryan got another. C168_113_88 is factored by SNFS:
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044707137[/url] |
C221_113_100
Ryan Propper got another one by SNFS - C221_113_100
[URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044719137"][COLOR=#0066cc]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044719137[/COLOR][/URL] |
Another Ryan reservation
C211_132_47
C197_119_67 C188_114_89 C191_111_101 C197_115_104 Thanks. |
[QUOTE=swellman;383080]C197_115_104[/QUOTE]But that's the number reserved by you. Move it to Ryan?
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[QUOTE=XYYXF;383083]But that's the number reserved by you. Move it to Ryan?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can move it to Ryan. I've run over 17k curves on it @B1=110M to no avail. It will finish full t55 tonight - if it does hit I'll alert Ryan but I think he's safe. Sorry for the confusion. |
How much wall-clock time took that C221?
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Ryan says according to his logs it took 28 hours.
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[QUOTE=swellman;381825]Ryan's results [url=http://www.factordb.com/index.php?query=127%5E81%2B81%5E127]here[/url].[/QUOTE]C159_127_81 looks like GNFS job, not SNFS (difficulty 243).
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[QUOTE=XYYXF;383114]C159_127_81 looks like GNFS job, not SNFS (difficulty 243).[/QUOTE]
No he says it was specifically a SNFS job. Ryan used the "snfspoly helper program" in the xyyxf yahoo group to generate the poly for this number. He even overseived the job the first time and then had to rerun LA with less relations. Which is kind of scary... |
Updated: [url]http://xyyxf.at.tut.by/status.html[/url]
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:)
Updated: [url]http://xyyxf.at.tut.by/results.html#0[/url] |
[QUOTE=swellman;383118]No he says it was specifically a SNFS job. Ryan used the "snfspoly
helper program" in the xyyxf yahoo group to generate the poly for this number. He even overseived the job the first time and then had to rerun LA with less relations. Which is kind of scary...[/QUOTE] Any idea what parameters to feed that program? I just compiled it and am looking at the source code, but I've no idea. |
One feeds snfspoly the degree of the polynomial on the command line (optionaly, by default 5, I usually use 6), then one enters Cnnn_X_Y interactively.
For instance: [code]$ ~/snfspoly/snfspoly C159_127_81 Original C159_127_81 contains 243 digits Y^X=3^508 X^Y=127^81 Y^X=3^508 Poly file: ******** n: <copy from file> name: C159_127_81 #X^Y=(127^1)*(127^16)^5 #Y^X=(3^3)*(3^101)^5 deg: 5 c5: 27 c0: 127 Y1: 4579937329576774398276408998492161 Y0: -1546132562196033993109383389296863818106322566003 type: snfs skew: <vary from 1 to 10 and check secs/rel number> ******** 1.528302 ratio : C159_127_81 with 243 digits[/code] [code]$ ~/snfspoly/snfspoly 6 C159_127_81 Original C159_127_81 contains 243 digits Y^X=3^508 X^Y=127^81 Y^X=3^508 Poly file: ******** n: <copy from file> name: C159_127_81 #X^Y=(127^3)*(127^13)^6 #Y^X=(3^4)*(3^84)^6 deg: 6 c6: 81 c0: 2048383 Y1: 2235879388560037062539773567 Y0: -11972515182562019788602740026717047105681 type: snfs skew: <vary from 1 to 10 and check secs/rel number> ******** 1.528302 ratio : C159_127_81 with 243 digits[/code] |
Nifty! Thanks!
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I had a request for a Windows version of snfspoly, so I'm uploading it here. It's 64-bit (built in MinGW-64) compiled with GMP 6.0.0.
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[QUOTE=wombatman;383216]I had a request for a Windows version of snfspoly, so I'm uploading it here. It's 64-bit (built in MinGW-64) compiled with GMP 6.0.0.[/QUOTE]
Needs the gmp library dll, or compile gmp statically? |
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Not sure if I did it right (but it compiled and runs fine), but try this one.
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C161_149_41
It has been [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044660173"]factored[/URL] by GNFS, courtesy of Ryan P.
[code] p79: 5254652404574501306652832473719273172694314626914965256618619243605730989842289 p82: 7245027671189122787015008209172851099700830390545655251779716558827050360389135031 [/code] |
[QUOTE=wombatman;383240]Not sure if I did it right (but it compiled and runs fine), but try this one.[/QUOTE]
:tu: |
[QUOTE=swellman;383249]It has been [URL="http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044660173"]factored[/URL] by GNFS[/QUOTE]Wall-clock time? :)
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[QUOTE=XYYXF;383564]Wall-clock time? :)[/QUOTE]
The email announcing he was starting to look at the C161 and the email with the factors found are separated by 47 hours. Slow for Ryan but that includes a poly search. Call it two days. |
Jesus. What kind of firepower is he working with? It would take me a few weeks at best for a C161 by GNFS.
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I don't know but it is [url=http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=377767&postcount=17]considerable[/url].
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[QUOTE=wombatman;383571]Jesus. What kind of firepower is he working with? It would take me a few weeks at best for a C161 by GNFS.[/QUOTE]
Hints I've picked up around the forum indicate something like a handful of academic computer labs, perhaps 100 machines. I think the more interesting curiosity concerns the scripts he has created to harness all that power! He's tackled GNFS190+ on his own... |
Man, that must be nice...I'm rocking a solid 3 computer setup--2 desktops (one pieced together from old parts) and a laptop! WOOOO! :smile:
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C211_132_47 factored
Ryan factored another, this time by SNFS.
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044666156[/url] |
C197_119_67 factored (SNFS)
Another found by Ryan, this time it took three days. p73*p124
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044686143[/url] |
C162_134_71 factored
[URL]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000000032298190[/URL]
p69*p94 I got this with GNFS in about 7 weeks of noncontinuous runtime. |
C162_131_88 (GNFS)
8 weeks
[url]http://www.factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000000639298928[/url] [code] prp77 = 28887625366182981990573317865436832821531637749406045585618871037303719459083 prp86 = 31311184739975754982559405371019664358764342048608451965565238531041064582692047501909 [/code] |
Here we are: [url]http://xyyxf.at.tut.by/results.html#0[/url]
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114^89+89^114 fully factored
Ryan accomplished it by SNFS. Results are found at
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044708138[/url] |
C175_126_55 factored
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044674150[/url]
p64*p112 Factored using SNFS (4 weeks). |
C197_115_104 Factored
Ryan nailed another one by SNFS.
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044723139[/url] |
Ryan Reservation
All by SNFS
C177_126_61 C190_120_67 C160_119_73 C169_138_47 C176_127_63 And Ryan already finished 126_61! [url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044680150[/url] Thanks. |
Ryan factored 120_67
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044686144[/url]
P85*P105 |
Ryan factorization of C160_119_73
Also by SNFS. P54*P107
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044692143[/url] |
C175_123_73 factored by SNFS
Factored by the NFS@Home, details are [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=386379&postcount=1630"]here[/URL].
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C185_125_53 (SNFS)
Reserving C185_125_53 for SNFS. Should be factored by mid January.
Thanks. |
There are 3 polys for it: [url]http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19352[/url]
Which one did you take? :-) |
[QUOTE=XYYXF;391063]There are 3 polys for it: [url]http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=19352[/url]
Which one did you take? :-)[/QUOTE] Quintic (difficulty 216): (53^25)^5 + 625*(5^31)^5 = 10941755890309490995358069318266 * C185 It should finish by late next week. |
C191_111_101 factored by SNFS
Ryan factored this composite in approximately 30 hours.
[code] prp80 factor: 13064010457564812414809614954538949379779118936205595590340753333117145375704311 prp112 factor: 4696921666891217524559822022117808836501821800945939947147358909847327620378952929835719285271171508437515297327 [/code] |
C163_148_50 factored (SNFS)
[code]
p69=239102935769593138043447185027994610471963415568392873284244864973921 p95=33905859348467028584287255086642845840073598363470179613214271566223333735650253824603982131457[/code] |
(repost) 123^71+71^123 factored
[code]
Mon Jan 5 12:31:00 2015 prp95 factor: 39498752734489753640606804099420441711111818064254367734291658571564113545613506752975967738933 Mon Jan 5 12:31:00 2015 prp126 factor: 433404930066465544464380820740481161819446165283251704628991926549573405714251507232025681505727209612829234418336257551027983 [/code] Log at [url]http://pastebin.com/NqVyqEEx[/url] |
129^58+58^129 done
[code]
Wed Jan 7 15:03:20 2015 prp60 factor: 946130503006880858461265763819139579348511562271560842276269 Wed Jan 7 15:03:20 2015 prp143 factor: 43026707346855415440117787296935125633951150680004091249139978911676313884204791278928001761454869163345731964093014837943018004160134211242153 [/code] NFS@home sieved; 50 hours for 9.4M matrix of weight 1006009712 on four threads of i7/4770K |
C169_138_47 Factored (SNFS)
Ryan factored another
[code] prp69 factor: 668618062003586667557863170796505963556898654819502232801140119818809 prp100 factor: 9181697938923608941825240988112796344430180212715865638060236324583338888470549876700111484644531101 [/code] |
[QUOTE=swellman;390942]Reserving C185_125_53 for SNFS. Should be factored by mid January.
Thanks.[/QUOTE] [code] p80=58707778038162323062145039886164681487902625220828337623661497335628973865158521 p105=532967878211077634004602529587841136191525360987694054859582314761989447195693751648664919095479881938213 [/code] |
The pages are updated, please check: [url]http://xyyxf.at.tut.by/results.html#0[/url]
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C176_127_63 factored (SNFS)
[code]
prp80 factor: 76469951543970116186970789663991981548758097184142072060572847850659844093100729 prp96 factor: 149486439662355245619419376924635884377938730293644593808470901192273827386679456228793950454363 [/code] |
C171_111_107 factored
Ryan got another one using SNFS
[code] prp69: 321691477600410878975266657260840766238264466541483668567219248893723 prp102: 883391217235268796684060457195562761816709303301511707609280378514557548640447010023513281845554228651 [/code] |
C198_113_105 Fully factored
Factored by Ryan using SNFS
[code] prp95=30579713868843130922376802571679579603798827862954272732953102997438317875881872680886264263737 prp104=27151358698096457288178129530819453088147528794968500725477161693011614960505045369148326295414176287873 [/code] Please reserve C175_118_87 and C164_133_53 for Ryan. Thanks. |
C165_134_120 done
[code]
Thu Jan 29 22:00:49 2015 prp66 factor: 678695271492416308463140856340124524236269302537468243607698233153 Thu Jan 29 22:00:49 2015 prp99 factor: 676943041070359955358770894680544804069579305572092726364132773451378892151787361432118976453454337 [/code] 22 hours on i7/4770 -t4 for 6.4M matrix |
C175_118_87 factored
Ryan has fully factored this number using SNFS.
[code] prp71 factor: 11506460527447779180291864810319418170985076729937819257789302885989093 prp105 factor: 209812548218779873490830821649826523407854085127385847980551888435064018472428190182198550246380059293893 [/code] |
C223_113_112 Factored
NFS@Home (SNFS)
[code] prp63 factor: 259658816888575649802364504342298325136540174409150990503369367 prp71 factor: 11188521920618318874883608032543130205629249885943692412562942988595487 prp91 factor: 1564623699533884537827608582007255523107226027576742546555545462115829022694350139433043319 [/code] |
C164_133_53 Factored
Ryan factored this with SNFS.
[code] prp64= 1792665021985421057219160908693268114800243411800199889846838559 prp101= 50884560175258852148075640051109028877168200541264414149229476587907302306234848659086921077046137659 [/code] |
Thanks for these NFS efforts :-)
Hope I listed them correctly there: [url]http://www.primefan.ru/xyyxf/results.html#0[/url] |
Please reserve the following for Ryan:
C226_115_97 C177_115_99 C164_133_55 Thanks. |
Done. Note a C170 GNFS record :)
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C226_115_97 Factored
Ryan factored it in two days using SNFS.
[url=http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044716139]p107*p119[/url] |
Finally a p100+! Excellent :)
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C177_115_99 Factored
Ryan again, and with SNFS.
[code] prp77 factor: 57482138743270224754001796870172321008426990774257569646368733836123244722087 prp100 factor: 5341387392899652002209255393703604238157000032618341547619619930884078373829044947201073623984558107 [/code] |
C199_113_92 factored
Ryan, using SNFS
[url=http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044711137]p86*p114[/url] |
С137 is needed to update the pages :)
[url]http://mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=394923[/url] |
[B]C185_113_82[/B] was factored by NFS@home.
[QUOTE=VictordeHolland;395543][code]prp77 factor: 58789541719310794464028451002607656177871970917892687975610948256126119656061 prp108 factor: 374323217276353022223811948834396954110231084098624184434102662550773803838656988732904473217686359002099431[/code]matrix is 6753906 x 6754132 (3147.7 MB) with weight 816313694 (120.86/col) 30 hours on a 3770k[/QUOTE] |
C164_133_55 factored
Ryan got another, using SNFS.
[url=http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044674157]p66*p98[/url] Please reserve C204_115_88 and C188_115_93 for Ryan. |
Reserving C196_122_59 for factoring by SNFS.
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C204_115_88 Factored
Another composite fully factored by Ryan.
[url=http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044707139]p65*p139[/url] |
C188_115_93 Factored
Ryan factored another.
[url=http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044712139]p61*p127[/url] |
C197_115_87
Ryan factored another.
[url=http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1000000000044706139]p76*p121[/url] Please reserve C211_119_94 for Ryan. Thanks. |
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