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swl551 2013-11-12 21:57

[QUOTE=Mini-Geek;359129]With Prime95, you can add "PauseWhileRunning=cooloff.exe" to prime.txt, and if you use the MfaktX controller, you can have the equivalent in its .config:
[CODE]<add key="PauseWhileRunning" value="cooloff" />[/CODE]
So, it's not that the processes magically know that "cooloff.exe" is anything special, it's that you can tell them both that it's special.[/QUOTE]

this is good.


thx

NBtarheel_33 2013-11-12 22:21

I have been in Maine for the last seven weeks. The weather definitely likes to change suddenly around here, doesn't it? Two weeks ago it was near 70° during the day, and we could still have brunch out on the deck. Now we're lucky to break 40° for a high. Not to mention being in pitch darkness at 5PM! Atlantic time zone, anyone? Seriously, I think it makes just a wee bit more sense here in the mid-sixties longitude to align our clocks with New Brunswick, as opposed to Indiana for Heaven's sake.

Using computers as heaters up here got me to thinking...maybe the answer to the sluggish economy in this region would be for a data center or a cloud provider (or two) to relocate to northern New England. They would pay far less for cooling in the summer (if in fact they needed it that much at all) and the waste heat would not be nearly as noticeable in the winter. In fact, if you linked the computing facility to nearby office buildings or to part of a college campus, I bet you could use the waste heat to partially keep those buildings warm. Besides being closer to carbon neutral, you'd also have the extremely desirable side effect of bringing new jobs (and increased population) to an extremely economically-depressed region.

Of course, maybe they already have enough hot air in these parts; as far as I can tell, the current governor is a top producer.

ewmayer 2013-11-13 00:33

[QUOTE=swl551;359116]It is cold here in New Hampshire, and I have placed a PC in each bedroom to act as a space heater...

As we know GPUs/CPUs create a lot of heat and I am harnessing the heat in a positive way. The problem is that there is no thermostat in the PC and the rooms end up overheating.[/QUOTE]

If your concern is less with your utility bill than your room temperature, consider opening a window when the room gets too warm.

Or if the excess heat could be put to good use in a more-distant section of the house, some simple playing-with-airflow might do the trick.

I know, I know - why do something simple when you go all high-tech and economically stimulate your local gizmo vendor? ;)

swl551 2013-11-13 00:49

[QUOTE=ewmayer;359136]If your concern is less with your utility bill than your room temperature, consider opening a window when the room gets too warm.

Or if the excess heat could be put to good use in a more-distant section of the house, some simple playing-with-airflow might do the trick.

I know, I know - why do something simple when you go all high-tech and economically stimulate your local gizmo vendor? ;)[/QUOTE]
Opening a window at 3:00 am because my bedroom has become too warm is not an option as it is below freezing at night. This is about using the pc's heat to my advantage and managing oil and electric bills all while contributing to science.

NBtarheel_33 2013-11-13 01:01

[QUOTE=swl551;359138]Opening a window at 3:00 am because my bedroom has become too warm is not an option as it is below freezing at night. This is about using the pc's heat to my advantage and managing oil and electric bills all while contributing to science.[/QUOTE]

Could you turn down the thermostat for that region of the house? If you run at, say, 65° and it becomes too hot with the computer running, dial back to 60° or 62° and see what happens.

We have radiant (in-floor) heating in our house here in Maine, so there are several thermostats throughout the house that we can dial up or down as needed. The only problem is that while the floor is quite warm, getting that heat up around face level can be a bit of a challenge. Our room temperatures often top out at 64°-67°; to get them to 70° would require us to first buy an oil well.

Can't you just see Bob Vila and Norm Abrams restoring some old house in Boston so that it is heated by P4 Prescotts, all of which are of course hooked up to GIMPS, LOL. Better living through mathematics!

LaurV 2013-11-13 02:06

I would let the computers run at max speed, and take the advice and open the windows! :razz:

Joking apart, we are producing here a couple of such devices. If you look for a really cheap solution, buy any dev board from Atmel, ST, or TI, and I may be able to send you a piece of software. For example, you can look for "STM32 Discovery" boards, they are between $3 and $8 (then M3 and M4 are a bit high, up to $20, but you don't need that). They offer lots of software and dev tools directly downloadable from ST web page, demo sources for ADC acquisition, I think there is even a thermometer software sample somewhere. You can do your USB thermometer in just few hours, and it is a lot of fun.

swl551 2013-11-13 02:18

[QUOTE=LaurV;359146]I would let the computers run at max speed, and take the advice and open the windows! :razz:

Joking apart, we are producing here a couple of such devices. If you look for a really cheap solution, buy any dev board from Atmel, ST, or TI, and I may be able to send you a piece of software. For example, you can look for "STM32 Discovery" boards, they are between $3 and $8 (then M3 and M4 are a bit high, up to $20, but you don't need that). They offer lots of software and dev tools directly downloadable from ST web page, demo sources for ADC acquisition, I think there is even a thermometer software sample somewhere. You can do your USB thermometer in just few hours, and it is a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Laurv as this is useful in achieving my project goals.

TheMawn 2013-11-13 05:04

If I am not mistaken, your GPU temperatures should be roughly indicative of your room temperature as long as your case airflow isn't completely mediocre. The GPU temperature should steady out at some number of degrees higher than your room temperature regardless of what the room temperature actually is. Most of the heat transfer mechanics are roughly linear around such mild temperatures.

You could test that out. There will be some fluctuation of course, but see if you can plot the GPU temperature over fifteen minutes or something and take the average (bonus points if you simultaneously do it for ambient temperature also).

Room temperature around here goes from 18 during the day or at night to 22-ish during the morning and evening. I can see my temperatures fluctuate by about 4 degrees as well.

You could use this to tell your GPU to slow down when it reaches a certain temperature which relates to a desired ambient temperature, though this is admittedly less fun.

petrw1 2013-11-13 16:45

All PCs (5-6) in one room in the basement with window open and heat register closed in the winter keeps the room in the 50-65F range most days in the winter. Register open for A/C in the summer but still in the low - mid 70s.


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