[QUOTE=kladner;356331]Those are not corresponding categories. Partisan implies some opposition. Opposition to criminality or racism does not mean "same as."[/QUOTE]

Ok, but for me to call a Tea Partier a "partisan extremist" does not automatically imply that I affiliate with the Democrats. Or does it, and "I'm just in denial about it?"

[QUOTE=kladner;356293]I would point out, that calling another a "partisan" really implies a corresponding partisanship in the caller, even if the intent is to suggest some higher, non-partisan logic.[/QUOTE]I think Ernst is right to object to that one particular statement.

It's quite possible for a neutral, impartial observer to correctly label someone else as "partisan" without exhibiting partisanship himself.

It's even possible for a partisan observer to correctly and objectively label someone else as "partisan" without that act's necessarily proving that the labeler is partisan for that reason alone. (This doesn't absolve Ernst from being correctly labeled "partisan"; that just requires different evidence. :-)

If this is true, could a murderer refer to a mass murderer as a partisan extremist?

[QUOTE=cheesehead;356345](This doesn't absolve Ernst from being correctly labeled "partisan"; that just requires different evidence. :-)[/QUOTE]

Uh-oh, evidence of humor - my whole worldview is tottering ... "help me, Sarah Palin, you and your wonderfully binary [i]Weltanschauung[/i] are my only hope!"

[QUOTE=Fusion_power;356348]If this is true, could a murderer refer to a mass murderer as an extremist?[/QUOTE]

We prefer the kinder label "prolific".

[QUOTE=cheesehead;356345]I think Ernst is right to object to that one particular statement......

......(This doesn't absolve Ernst from being correctly labeled "partisan"; that just requires different evidence. :-)[/QUOTE]

Heh! I think my work here is done. I got Richard to defend Ernst! Who'd a thunk it? :wink:

[QUOTE]Ok, but for me to call a Tea Partier a "partisan extremist" does not automatically imply that I affiliate with the Democrats.[/QUOTE]
Nope. It doesn't. Not only that, but I didn't say it. Those aren't automatic correspondences, either.

[QUOTE]If this is true, could a murderer refer to a mass murderer as an extremist? [/QUOTE]
:rofl::bow: Excellent riposte, Sir!

[QUOTE=kladner;356351]Heh! I think my work here is done. I got Richard to defend Ernst! Who'd a thunk it? :wink:

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The end is nigh!

[QUOTE=kladner;356351]Heh! I think my work here is done. I got Richard to defend Ernst! Who'd a thunk it? :wink:[/QUOTE]
No, mate, your work is not done. You still need to get Ernst to defend Richard. Now there's a challenge for you...

[QUOTE=Brian-E;356384]No, mate, your work is not done. You still need to get Ernst to defend Richard. Now there's a challenge for you...[/QUOTE]

Sigh. The gentle voice of reality. :hello:

[QUOTE=kladner;356406]Sigh. The gentle voice of reality. :hello:[/QUOTE]
You'll soon have the two of them both :pals:
I know you can do it.:smile:

Robertson: Tea Party Politicians Need To 'Grow Up'
 

[URL]http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/robertson-tea-party-politicians-need-grow[/URL]
[QUOTE]When [I]Pat Robertson[/I] thinks you’ve moved too far to the right, you know you’re in trouble.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brian-E;356433][URL]http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/robertson-tea-party-politicians-need-grow[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the encouragement; and thanks for the link going to a page on which I could read about, without having to listen to, Robertson.