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There's no point in posting the C185 poly, since the composite has been cracked by ECM (a super lucky P64!! B1=15e7).
Here's the C186 poly: [code]n: 125418306344861354009234099530308115054784168571883448806721469548914177231420519441798023737607334329713323208573857202696013549660750242809155498156388725322000613487876897998654482601 # norm 4.533796e-18 alpha -7.809465 e 3.924e-14 rroots 3 skew: 130330238.00 c0: 8339214993797526944993529885793799309294890700 c1: -63561529637263770761265457071882653685 c2: -2951388700503543950513260732195 c3: -1957472655093592217376 c4: 77952353155253 c5: 550788 Y0: -743832744056353011728142095392992537 Y1: 100213462976318491[/code] Edit: -npr was still running when I posted about the 3.86. Seems it wasn't the best of the run! Two good polys suggest more may be in store; when a single poly is 10% better than all the others and the previous record, I'm more inclined to think it's the magic outlier. |
C186
I can't spin the above poly, sorry. But I'd love to see all your results above 3.4e-14, some of them might jump above 4e-14. If you still have the .m or .ms file, I'll process all the suspects today, promise.
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C205 testing:
[QUOTE=VBCurtis;488469]Nice work, Max! I'll test-sieve a few of these sometime this week; if the 2.2 sieves well, I think we have a winner. Once I have some stats on estimated Q-ranges, we can query fivemack and/or frmky to determine if this should be placed on 16e or 15e queue. This would be a record for GGNFS 15e, but such a record comes with a matrix more difficult than it would be on 16e. On the GPU search, I'll complete 20M-36M by 1 June.[/QUOTE] I finally got around to test-sieving on 15e. The results were... impressive (in the "oh, we're not worthy" way). I tested three polys, of scores 2.210, 2.215, and 2.214 (the latter two were brothers, and sieved nearly identically). The 2.210 had the best yield: [code]15e test, sieved -a side; bounds listed r first alim=268M, rlim=536M 33-33/66-96, lambda = 2.7/3.9: poly c: 2.210e-15, dQ=500, skew 230M Q=50M 0.847 sec/rel, 418 rels Q=150M 1.058 sec/rel, 491 rels Q=250M 0.868 sec/rel, 558 rels Q=350M 1.101 sec/rel, 424 rels Q=450M 1.146 sec/rel, 387 rels Q=550M 1.310 sec/rel, 340 rels Q=650M 1.284 sec/rel, 467 rels Q=750M 1.381 sec/rel, 418 rels Q=850M 1.307 sec/rel, 405 rels Q=950M 1.372 sec/rel, 353 rels Q=1050M 2.458 sec/rel, 368 rels Max Q = 1073M, expected relations for 50-1073M = 825M[/code] 825M relations isn't enough, and 15e crashes with a notice that max Q is ~1073M. So, we won't be sending this one to the 15e queue as-is. I tried loosening lim's for better yield: [code]poly c, 33/66-96, alim=536M, rlim=800M Q=150M 0.974 sec/rel, 515 rels Q=250M 0.969 sec/rel, 574 rels Q=1050M 1.898 sec/rel, 398 rels[/code] That's about 7% better yield, but 15e uses 1.3GB memory with bounds that loose! Too much for our BOINCers, and 900M relations isn't sufficient anyway. That leaves a couple of options, listed in order of personal preference: 1. Ask Greg if he's interested in adding this to the 16e queue. A billion relations should take something like Q=50-600M, as 16e yields are usually very close to double 15e yields. Greg prefers lim's of 268M, which would hurt yield just a bit. 2. Run 200m-1073M on 15e queue, with 20-200 done as a forum project on 16f. 3. #2, but with the forum subproject run on CADO. #1 seems best by far, as C205 is just a bit beyond our reach. I'd like to find a C202-203 to try with 15e, though! |
C204?
> I'd like to find a C202-203 to try with 15e, though!
C204 maybe? It's the last cofactor of 10^870+1. [URL]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000000032341587[/URL] |
Well, to be safe we need to be able to get 1B relations. That means 15-20% better yield than the C205 polys I just tested. I doubt a single digit change in size will grant that, though it's certainly possible.
Let's see if frmky accepts the C205 on 16e before we do another 4-6 GPU-month poly select effort. |
[QUOTE=Max0526;492840]I can't spin the above poly, sorry. But I'd love to see all your results above 3.4e-14, some of them might jump above 4e-14. If you still have the .m or .ms file, I'll process all the suspects today, promise.[/QUOTE]
Here is the next-best scoring, a 3.53: [code]n: 125418306344861354009234099530308115054784168571883448806721469548914177231420519441798023737607334329713323208573857202696013549660750242809155498156388725322000613487876897998654482601 # norm 3.864200e-18 alpha -7.296188 e 3.539e-14 rroots 3 skew: 123979954.45 c0: 5824060757220315571138706415403379352377998455 c1: -52903445616385967662787687024298089601 c2: -2939266247742570530676372043885 c3: -2503560777758982355724 c4: 72970010279393 c5: 550788 Y0: -743832744056534314818741498541036516 Y1: 100213462976318491[/code] |
C186 poly
[QUOTE=VBCurtis;492938]Here is the next-best scoring, a 3.53:
[code]n: 125418306344861354009234099530308115054784168571883448806721469548914177231420519441798023737607334329713323208573857202696013549660750242809155498156388725322000613487876897998654482601 # norm 3.864200e-18 alpha -7.296188 e 3.539e-14 rroots 3 skew: 123979954.45 c0: 5824060757220315571138706415403379352377998455 c1: -52903445616385967662787687024298089601 c2: -2939266247742570530676372043885 c3: -2503560777758982355724 c4: 72970010279393 c5: 550788 Y0: -743832744056534314818741498541036516 Y1: 100213462976318491[/code][/QUOTE] This is the same c5/Y1 pair as 3.924e-14, it doesn't grow any higher. If you post your 3.86 (it was a different c5/Y1 poly I assume), we might have a chance to spin it up past 3.92. |
There wasn't a 3.86, alas; I think I noted the norm value rather than the score from this poly when I scanned the screen output.
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C196
[QUOTE=swellman;492801]The C196 cofactor of aliquot sequence 3366 has almost completed a [url=http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/y_status_ecm.php]full ECM to t60 courtesy of Yoyo@Home[/url], as well as a t55 previous to that. It still has about 475 curves remaining as of this post, but it could be a fun next project.
Suggest anyone interested in searching for a poly start claiming search ranges by the weekend. [code] n: 8915368211656556990371631798977588135050731989294422390223244172093242398883796971202480932743367251871592723703242961940017754237147099943136947760081921684863663687415781282804315570869806914839[/code] Taking 2-3M, though I won’t start searching until later this week.[/QUOTE] Bump. I’ve started searching 2-3M. |
[QUOTE=VBCurtis;492868]C205 testing:
That leaves a couple of options, listed in order of personal preference: 1. Ask Greg if he's interested in adding this to the 16e queue. A billion relations should take something like Q=50-600M, as 16e yields are usually very close to double 15e yields. Greg prefers lim's of 268M, which would hurt yield just a bit. 2. Run 200m-1073M on 15e queue, with 20-200 done as a forum project on 16f. 3. #2, but with the forum subproject run on CADO. [/QUOTE] What about raising LPB[AR] to 34? That should raise yield but would also raise the number of relations needed to build a matrix (and would 15e support it?) Another option would be to sieve on both sides. Sieving on the -r side might yield half as many relations as the -a side, a third of which would be duplicates. But that might get enough relations from 15 to build a matrix. Chris |
[QUOTE=chris2be8;493077]What about raising LPB[AR] to 34? That should raise yield but would also raise the number of relations needed to build a matrix (and would 15e support it?)
Another option would be to sieve on both sides. Sieving on the -r side might yield half as many relations as the -a side, a third of which would be duplicates. But that might get enough relations from 15 to build a matrix. Chris[/QUOTE] 15e supports 34+ lpb only with a recompile; henryzz has pointed out it's a simple change in the code, but the BOINC-client version is compiled with the 33-bit max. In principle, we could recompile the current 15e siever as 15f, which provides 3 main benefits: 1. Q to 4G 2. 34+LP 3. Sieving below the factor base, so low-Q yields improve dramatically. To me, NFS@home would be more efficient and more capable with 14e queue having -J 14 permanently enabled (40% better yield, from sieve region 2^14 by 2^14) and 15e turned into 15f. But I don't have any idea how much work either of those would take, and I am in no position to provide the labor. Since that recompile is not happening soon, sieving both sides should provide us enough relations; I'll do a little testing on the "wrong" side for yields. Thanks for the ideas! EDIT: The 15e queue currently has a job scheduled to Q=1200M. If that doesn't cause errors on the clients, I just have a too-old 15e binary and this job could be done with Q of ~50M-1250M and perhaps no sieving on the other side. |
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