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bsquared 2013-03-22 16:47

[QUOTE=xilman;334499]
Surely that's how anyone would factor something that small and that well known these days? Perhaps you may not have the luxury of a local file but it wouldn't take either factordb or Google much longer.

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It would have taken me longer to look up online than it did to type it into an already open csh.

For the record, I was looking it up in parallel... but yafu beat me to the results.

Dubslow 2013-03-22 17:03

[QUOTE=bsquared;334519]It would have taken me longer to look up online than it did to type it into an already open csh.[/quote]
csh? :shock:

That's the first time i've actually heard of anyone using it. :smile:

[quote]
For the record, I was looking it up in parallel... but yafu beat me to the results.[/QUOTE]

You of all people certainly know it's good stuff. :smile:

Mr. P-1 2013-03-22 18:55

[QUOTE=Dubslow;334526]csh? :shock:

That's the first time i've actually heard of anyone using it. :smile:[/QUOTE]

I remember using it when I was at uni in the early 80s.

henryzz 2013-03-22 19:04

Apart from the poor implementation issues(which surely could now be corrected?) it looks quite useful. The syntax doesn't look as criptic as perl at first glance.

storflyt32 2013-04-03 16:30

Which number could be prime for 2^n+1?
 
If you check out [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_prime[/URL], it is known from this list that there are a total of 48 known Mersenne primes on the form 2^n-1.

The largest one being the recent discovery of 2^57,885,161-1 .

But when adding 1 to 2^n, apparently 65537 is still the largest known Fermat prime. The list at [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat_prime[/URL] gives the factors for F0 through F11.

My question is then as follows. If using a LLR algorithm or a Genefer specific equivalent to this, how far or high up has this been tested right now when it comes to the possible primality of numbers when it comes to adding 1 when compared to the similar subtraction of 1?

Meaning - testing out whether 2^n + 1 is a prime (n being a very big number, possibly similar to n=57,885,161 mentioned above).

jasonp 2013-04-03 16:39

For 2^n+1 it's easy to prove that only Fermat numbers (with n=2^k for some k) have a chance of being prime. These numbers grow very quickly in size; the first such number that might be prime is n=2^33, and short of trial division (which a lot of people have done) there's just no telling. Look up the Pepin test for a deterministic primality test for Fermat numbers. Definitely do [i]not[/i] try it on F33 though.


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