[url]https://nbcchicago.com/news/local/Assembly-Eliminates-Wisconsins-Minimum-Hunting-Age-Allowing-Even-Toddlers-to-Hunt-454933193.html[/url]

What could [I]possibly[/I] go wrong?

[QUOTE=ixfd64;471060][url]https://nbcchicago.com/news/local/Assembly-Eliminates-Wisconsins-Minimum-Hunting-Age-Allowing-Even-Toddlers-to-Hunt-454933193.html[/url]

What could [I]possibly[/I] go wrong?[/QUOTE]Maybe something like [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfMzK7QwfrU]9-year-old girl accidentally kills shooting instructor with Uzi[/url] (Don't worry, the video goes black and ends ends just before it actually happens.)

In one of the episodes of the old TV series about the young Indiana Jones, he is in a hot air balloon with a machine gun and a German officer he captured. The officer warns him about the gun "walking up" if he fires it. Indy asks, "What is `walking up'?" When he fires the gun full auto, he finds out as the gun points higher with each round fired, and he winds up shooting a bunch of holes in the balloon above him. The German officer says, "[i]That[/i] is `walking up'!"

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;471066]In one of the episodes of the old TV series about the young Indiana Jones, he is in a hot air balloon with a machine gun and a German officer he captured. The officer warns him about the gun "walking up" if he fires it. Indy asks, "What is `walking up'?" When he fires the gun full auto, he finds out as the gun points higher with each round fired, and he winds up shooting a bunch of holes in the balloon above him. The German officer says, "[i]That[/i] is `walking up'!"[/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvK018OhiI&t=1h18m12s[/url]

[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;471071][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvK018OhiI&t=1h18m12s[/url][/QUOTE]Fascinating. The info at the link says a little over 93 minutes. The [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0394999/]IMDB description[/url] says 45 minutes, but my guess is that's only half. The original airing was in a 2-hour time slot. In the UK it was aired in 2 parts.

Back in the 1960's and early 1970's, 10 minutes of every program hour was commercials. It seems that by 1993, it was up to 15. Nowadays, it's more like 20. Ad segments are now as long as program segments. Program continuity? What's that?

When old TV shows are run in syndication, they do stuff to make room for more commercials. They may "time compress" the program by carefully editing out little bits here and there. Or they might chop out whole scenes. The opening and closing credits are butchered into meaninglessness.

Sometimes, they remake old TV movie features rather than try to rerun the old ones, because the old ones would no longer fit into the original time slot.

[b]BBC America[/b] shows 1960's episodes of [i]Star Trek[/i], which had runtimes of 50 minutes, and showed in 1-hour time slots. They had been showing them in 70-minute time slots, but recently have begun showing them in 75-minute time slots.

It's enough to drive ya to buying a friggin' [i]arsenal[/i], I tell ya. It brings to mind [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvp97SMZc6M]Bill Hicks on the Evils of Marketing[/url].

[QUOTE=Dr Sardonicus;471100]
It's enough to drive ya to buying a friggin' [I]arsenal[/I],[/QUOTE]
What you need is regulation! :smile:
Here in the Netherlands, for example, TV advertising is limited to approximately 12 minutes per hour, and programs on the public broadcasting channels are never interrupted for advertisments.

[url=http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/02/shoppers-pulled-weapons-walmart-shooting/]Man with a gun! -- and another, and another,... (Thornton, CO 11/01/2017)[/url][quote]When a gunman opened fire inside a Walmart in Thornton Wednesday night, shoppers screamed and ran for cover — and others pulled out their own handguns.

But those who drew weapons during the shootings ultimately delayed the investigation as authorities pored over surveillance videotape trying to identify the assailant who killed three people, police said Thursday.

Although authorities said “a few” individuals drew handguns, they posed no physical hazard to officers. But their presence “absolutely” slowed the process of determining who, and how many, suspects were involved in the shootings, said Thornton police spokesman Victor Avila.

It took more than five hours to identify the suspect, 47-year-old Scott Ostrem, who is accused in the seemingly random shootings. The problem for investigators came when they reviewed the surveillance footage and had to follow each individual with a firearm until they could eliminate them as a suspect.[/quote]

[url]http://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/01/why-was-joshua-tree-hiker-carrying-a-gun/[/url]
[quote]a loaded handgun typically weighs a little over two pounds. That’s equal to an extra quart of water.[/quote]
It doesn't say much if you choose to carry a gun into a National Park. Besides protection, it can be used for signalling if you get lost (fire 3 successive shots into the ground).

But there is something fishy going on if you bother to carry a gun but fail to carry other protections (water, food, clothes, etc) that you'll almost certainly need:
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/joshua-tree-hikers-died-sympathetic-murder-suicide-article-1.3580665[/url]

And again: [url]https://nytimes.com/2017/11/05/us/church-shooting-texas.html[/url]

This shooting in Texas is especially tragic. It seems that Our Hero had been kicked out of the Air Force after being convicted at court-martial for assaulting his wife and kid. Twelve months confinement, demotion to lowest rand (E-1), and a bad-conduct discharge.

Now, a bad conduct discharge from the Armed Forces doesn't automatically prohibit you from owning a gun (though a [i]dishonorable[/i] discharge does, thanks to the a provision in the Gun Control Act of 1968, put in because Lee Harvey Oswald had been dishonorably discharged from the Marines). However, the nature of the offense he was convicted of (domestic violence) should have pegged him as someone who shouldn't own firearms. A conviction under civilian law would have this effect, but I don't know whether a [i]military[/i] conviction for domestic violence does this. If not, something tells me it soon might.

There seem to be some really heroic actions after the massacre. Some guy nearby saw the shooter outside the church, got a rifle, and took him on. When the shooter drove off, the guy flagged down another man who was driving by, and got him to pursue the gunman.

Headline [i]des Tages[/i]: "Texas church shooting: Donald Trump says massacre at church is ‘not a gun situation’ | Independent"

So the shooter was targeting the in-laws … perhaps the Dear Cheetoh is right that the weapon of choice was secondary, it was really all about those annoying in-laws. The obvious solution is a nationwide law banning in-law-dom, but I can hear the NRA nutters’ sloganeering against that now, e.g. “when in-laws are outlawed, only outlaws will have in-laws”, and “you can have my annoying mother-in-law when you pry her from my cold, dead fingers”.

[QUOTE=ewmayer;471214]Headline [i]des Tages[/i]: "Texas church shooting: Donald Trump says massacre at church is ‘not a gun situation’ | Independent"[/QUOTE]

Sad to say, it's more a "failure of law enforcement" situation.

This just gets better and better.

My puzzlement over why his court martial conviction for assaulting his wife and child didn't disqualify him from buying a gun was of short duration:

[url=http://abcnews.go.com/US/air-force-failed-report-texas-suspects-convictions-fbi/story?id=50969640]Air Force didn't share info that would have blocked Texas shooter from gun buys[/url]
[quote]The Air Force failed to submit information about Texas church shooting suspect Devin Kelley's convictions to the FBI, the Air Force said today.

The failure was a result of what one law enforcement source described to ABC News as an administrative error. Had the conviction information been entered into the NCIC, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System should have prevented the sale of the firearms Kelley purchased, law enforcement sources said.[/quote]

It seems that Our Hero was a real winner.

[url=http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/06/texas-shooting-devin-patrick-kelley-colorado-arrest/]Gunman who killed 26 people in Texas cited for cruelty to animals in Colorado[/url]
[quote]On Aug. 1, 2014, El Paso County Sheriff’s deputies cited Kelley for misdemeanor cruelty to animals.

Numerous witnesses said they saw him beat a dog with his fists.

Jennifer Jones told deputies she saw a young brown and white Husky running loose near the back of her camping space. A heavyset man later identified as Kelley – with shaggy, dirty blond hair – ran up to the dog and jumped on top of it.

“She stated the white male then began punching the dog with a closed fist near the head and neck area. She stated she witnessed four to five punches and then the male suspect grabbed the dog by the neck and drug him away,” an El Paso County deputy report says.

Charles Harolds told deputies that Kelley was yelling at the dog to come to him and when it didn’t he tackled the dog and held it down with his knees and punched the dog.

Brent Moody told deputies he saw the dog run away from Kelley. When Kelley caught up with it, he grabbed the dog and threw it to the ground.

“He could hear the suspect yelling at the dog and while he was striking it, the dog was yelping and whining. The suspect then picked up the dog by the neck into the air and threw it onto the ground and then drug him away to lot 60,” Moody told the deputy.

When El Paso County Sheriff’s Sgt. Ronald Mitchell convinced Kelley to open the door of his trailer home, he could tell the dog was undernourished. When he touched the dog he could feel the dog’s ribs.[/quote]

[url=https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2017/11/05/reported-shooting-baptist-church-town-near-san-antonio]Sutherland Springs church shooter didn't have gun license, threatened mother-in-law[/url]. So, the Great State of Texas denied this guy a gun license. And yet,
[quote]The Texas Department of Public Safety issued Kelley a private security license this year.[/quote]
Texas Governor Greg Abbot said,
[quote]"By all the facts that we seem to know, he was not supposed to have access to a gun, so how did this happen?"[/quote]