I think that a guy who can kill that beautiful animal without being in extreme situation (like self defense, life threatening, whatever) without any remorse, to take its horn, would kill a human being with even less remorse (i.e. less than "no remorse!"), with or without prison term. OTOH, it is no need to kill them. Shot their wheels, their hat, like in western movies, whatever. They will get the message. If not, then shot their legs. Are we talking about real snipers, or a bunch of LaurVs with glasses on the nose, and compressed air guns? If they are real snipers, shot the poacher's dicks. No joke. :smile:

Spread the news that ground poacher's penis causes longer sustained erections than rhino horn ever did.

[QUOTE=kladner;425558]So what do people think?[/QUOTE]

Humans are plentiful. Endangered animals are (by definition) limited.

Shoot to kill any human who are anywhere near an endangered animal without authorization who might do them harm.

Let us not forget Cecil the Lion, killed by Walter Palmer, a dentist who enjoyed "recreational big-game hunting".

[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/argentina-soccer-player-kills-referee_us_56c31bb8e4b08ffac1266711"]Referee Dies After Soccer Player Shoots Him During Game[/URL]
[QUOTE]A soccer player is on the lam in Argentina after he allegedly shot and killed a referee who sent him off.

The man was reportedly shown a red card for hitting another player during an amateur league match in Cordoba on Sunday.

Police say he walked off the pitch and grabbed a gun from his backpack.

He then ran back onto the field of play as the game continued, and allegedly shot 48-year-old official Cesar Flores in the head, chest and neck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=chalsall;425662]Humans are plentiful. Endangered animals are (by definition) limited.
Shoot to kill any human who are anywhere near an endangered animal without authorization who might do them harm.
Let us not forget Cecil the Lion, killed by Walter Palmer, a dentist who enjoyed "recreational big-game hunting".[/QUOTE]

I didn't see an emoji. You are kidding, right?

[url]http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/gun-violence-graphics/[/url] [quote]Gun violence kills far more Americans than terrorism

During his presidency, Barack Obama has had to deliver statements on gun violence regularly. After a shooting at Oregon's Umpqua Community College in October, he asked news organizations to tally up the number of Americans killed by terrorist attacks in the last decade and compare it with the number of Americans who have died in gun violence.[/quote]The huge focus on (the fallacy of) stopping terrorism by slurping up ever more personal data is grossly misplaced effort if the real goal is to [strike]save[/strike] extend lives.

[QUOTE=retina;426781][URL]http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/gun-violence-graphics/[/URL] The huge focus on (the fallacy of) stopping terrorism by slurping up ever more personal data is grossly misplaced effort if the real goal is to [strike]save[/strike] extend lives.[/QUOTE]

Terrorists are just the latest in a long line of boogeymen used to scare people into accepting the loss of privacy. Not, it seems, that we have any say in the matter. The camel's nose is too far under the tent already. I again applaud Apple for loudly opposing the court order to create a way to hack an encrypted phone.
I am seeing a lot of this kind of stuff:
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[/COLOR][/SIZE][/INDENT][LEFT][SIZE=4]Be afraid.[/SIZE] [COLOR=Gray]Be very afraid.[/COLOR][COLOR=Silver] [SIZE=1]Give us your passwords and we'll [I]try [/I]to get some lenience for you.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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The basic issue is how do we stamp out violent terrorism.

[QUOTE=davar55;426805]The basic issue is how do we stamp out violent terrorism.[/QUOTE]Easy. Don't give people a reason to terrorise you.

OK, Retina, I'll try. Of course, I wasn't referring to
forumites as terrorists nor me as victim, but there
may have appeared to be an analogous situation
here a few times. I may have been considered on
the other side at times. But we're all ultimately
reasonable, aren't we? Discussion is a good thing...

[QUOTE=davar55;426834]... Of course, I wasn't referring to forumites as terrorists nor me as victim ...[/QUOTE]Neither was I actually. My usage of "you" was meant in the plural form as in: "all of you that are affected by it".

Perhaps I should spell it out more clearly: Stop interfering in other people's business and perhaps, just perhaps, the others will stop terrorising you (the collective you).