[QUOTE=davar55;390146]Vinegar versus honey.[/QUOTE]
You can make vinegar from honey, so in this conflict, vinegar is the last condiment standing.

[QUOTE=TheMawn;390143]Unfortunately, beating around the bush is all this guy will ever do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=davar55;390146]Vinegar versus honey.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you appropriately addressed that part of my reply.



What about this one?

[QUOTE=TheMawn;390143]You won't put a proof here because you don't have one.

save yourself the trouble of re-writing and just copy-paste or give us a link[/QUOTE]

This thread required me to be non-pedantic, so I held back.

IIf you've read my 200 posts in this thread, what point that I made
do you challenge?

[QUOTE=davar55;390236]This thread required me to be non-pedantic[/QUOTE]
I challenge this point.

[QUOTE=davar55;390236] what point that I made
do you challenge?[/QUOTE]

Take your pick:

[QUOTE=davar55;389183]the non-existence
of God has been utterly proven. Many times.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=davar55;389185] God is non-existent. And that this has been proven many times.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=davar55;390091]
God is non-existent. That can be proven.[/QUOTE]


Also this one:

[QUOTE=davar55;390091]
There's a reason I won't put a proof here - it's already posted elsewhere.[/QUOTE]



I have the following additional comments to make.

[QUOTE=TheMawn;390143]Unfortunately, beating around the bush is all this guy will ever do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheMawn;390143]
You won't put a proof here because you don't have one.

you can save yourself the trouble of re-writing and just copy-paste or give us a link. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=davar55;389954]
Proof ... well, so far, all semi-atheists haven't bothered to ask
the right question(s).[/QUOTE]
What, pray tell, is the right question?

Even if they exists, by today they are far behind.
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Since the issue has become contentious, and because I don't feel like raking through the muck of some of this thread, I add my voice to the question below, and second the request for a link or two.
[QUOTE]
What about this one?

Quote:
Originally Posted by [B]TheMawn[/B] [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?p=390143#post390143"][IMG]http://www.mersenneforum.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL]
[I]You won't put a proof here because you don't have one.

save yourself the trouble of re-writing and just copy-paste or give us a link[/I]
[/QUOTE]EDIT: I don't really give a rat's patootie for the question of atheist versus agnostic. If there really is some super-being, which expects strange propitiatory activities so that it will not-
[QUOTE]Monty Python - [URL="http://youtu.be/hqCJWSLusCU"]O Lord, Please Don't Burn Us from 'Monty Python's The Meaning of Life'.
[/URL]
O Lord please don't burn us,
don't grill or toast your flock.
Don't put us on the barbecue,
or simmer us in stock.
Don't braise or bake or boil us
or stir fry us in a wok.

Oh please don't lightly poach us
or baste us with hot fat.
Don't fricassee or roast us
or boil us in a vat,
and please don't stick thy servant Lord
in a Rotissomat.[/QUOTE]
[YOUTUBE]fINh4SsOyBw[/YOUTUBE]
.....then we are well and truly f**ked, and might as well pack it in, anyway. Otherwise, the question is hair-splittingly irrelevant. The need to espouse a particular belief, or anti-belief, raises questions of its own. Doth the lady protest overmuch?

[QUOTE=kladner;390260][...]Otherwise, the question is hair-splittingly irrelevant.[...][/QUOTE]
It's not really something which bothers me (agnostic but heavily inclined towards atheism) either, and I tend to agree with you. But as a child it bothered me enormously. At the age of about 6 I had a primary school teacher tell me and the rest of the class that if we didn't believe in God we would not go to heaven. Another lesson from this woman described the two possibilities after death: heaven (clouds and angels and things) and hell (a lot of fire and general horror). I guess what I came away with, persisting almost into adulthood, was that I'd better believe all this religion I was being taught, however peculiar and self-contradictory it often was, otherwise there would literally be hell to pay.

The Monty Python takes on the subject are hilarious.:smile:

[QUOTE=Batalov;390238]I challenge this point.[/QUOTE]

Which point? Just meant I chose to avoid non-pedanticism
by never simply saying there is no God as an entire post.

[QUOTE=davar55;390290]Which point? Just meant I chose to avoid non-pedanticism
by never simply saying there is no God as an entire post.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheMawn;390143]Unfortunately, beating around the bush is all this guy will ever do.
[/QUOTE]

See attachment.