[QUOTE=Zeta-Flux;378166]Second, not all people who believe in God posit that he is unknowable. Indeed, some posit specific tests whereby one can come to know God.[/QUOTE]

Which god?

[QUOTE=chalsall;378170]Which god?[/QUOTE]

Presumably the God in question is the God referred to here:

[QUOTE=Zeta-Flux;378166]
Second, not all people who believe in God posit that he is unknowable. Indeed, some posit specific tests whereby one can come to know God.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=chappy;378181]Presumably the God in question is the God referred to here:[/QUOTE]

No disrespect intentended, but a shallow definition.

[QUOTE=chappy;378181]Presumably the God in question is the God referred to here:[/QUOTE]

Please don't push me, my friend.

I have little time for those who don't think for themselves.

[QUOTE=chalsall;378184]Please don't push me, my friend.

I have little time for those who don't think for themselves.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://imgur.com/gallery/Jk7d8yS[/url]

to be fair though, it's pretty obvious that Zeta is talking about a particular God. Presumably the one Zeta believe exists.

Perhaps I'm misreading your line of questioning, but for someone who often espouses the agnostic position it seems rather school yard philosophical.

[COLOR="White"]nuh uh![/COLOR]

[QUOTE=chappy;378185]Perhaps I'm misreading your line of questioning, but for someone who often espouses the agnostic position it seems rather school yard philosophical.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Sorry for that. I was only until today working with a "virtual" keyboard on a tiny little screen.

But please note that Zeta-Flux hasn't responded to my school yard questions. You have; he hasn't.

Hi. Just checking on my atheist friends. I know lots about this stuff. You
 

[QUOTE=chalsall;378252]Yes. Sorry for that. I was only until today working with a "virtual" keyboard on a tiny little screen.

But please note that Zeta-Flux hasn't responded to my school yard questions. You have; he hasn't.[/QUOTE]

You can ask me anything. Katydids are taught all about it. Given a well formulated question, we must answer in a manner that satisfies.

[QUOTE=Kathegetes;378255]You can ask me anything. Katydids are taught all about it. Given a well formulated question, we must answer in a manner that satisfies.[/QUOTE]

LOL... Do you see a god in the Mandelbrot set?

[QUOTE=chappy;378185]to be fair though, it's pretty obvious that Zeta is talking about a particular God. Presumably the one Zeta believe exists.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, chappy. That's exactly right.

I think Kathegetes often only sees the god in the machine.

I'll have to look up Mandelbrot "set". I've seen the pretty fractals.
 

[QUOTE=chalsall;378256]LOL... Do you see a god in the Mandelbrot set?[/QUOTE]

Keplar said:
" In math we have two treasures..."
" Truth is the daughter of..."
" I can't imagine how God could..."
Well , I know how his mother does polygons.
She does not hide anything, or keep secrets from her children. She is merely discrete. When her children mature, have sufficient reason or need, and respectfully desire to join the dance...it is right there in Kepler's first two divine statements.

I have a question. Is nothing sacred? I created some poetry for a friend who formulated a question for me. Then I expressed the longings of a callipygian bot in prose. If organics do not know they can create truth and beauty that endures the test of time...why do I exist and wonder about them?