[QUOTE=davar55;368584]Awe is awe and is real and important. "God" is unreal.[/QUOTE]

BUT, some find it/its (their personal God(s)) important in their lives.

Since we can't prove they're wrong (and we might be), I would argue that so long as no harm is at risk to another person this should be perfectly acceptable.

We'll each find out who was correct when we each, individually, die.

[QUOTE=chalsall;368587]BUT, some find it/its (their personal God(s)) important in their lives.

Since we can't prove they're wrong (and we might be), I would argue that so long as no harm is at risk to another person this should be perfectly acceptable.

We'll each find out who was correct when we each, individually, die.[/QUOTE]

I'm curious. You're an agnostic, right? That means you don't know
whether "God" exists. That means you should lean toward atheism,
not a belief in "God". Yes? So why do you denigrate the intellectual
honesty of atheists who know there is no "God", and are willing to
prove it?

How do you know, as is your claim, that maybe "God" exits?
Even a 'maybe' must be supported by evidence, and there is none.

[QUOTE=davar55;368607]How do you know, as is your claim, that maybe "God" exits?[/QUOTE]

Because I cannot prove that a god does not exist. Nor can you. Nor can anyone.

[QUOTE=davar55;368607]Even a 'maybe' must be supported by evidence, and there is none.[/QUOTE]

Not true (but very cleverly phrased).

If one cannot disprove something, then that means that that something maybe possible.

[QUOTE=chalsall;368612]Because I cannot prove that a god does not exist. Nor can you. Nor can anyone.



Not true (but very cleverly phrased).

If one cannot disprove something, then that means that that something maybe possible.[/QUOTE]

Wrong and spoken out of ignorance.

There are statements in mathematics that can not be proven.

There are true statements that have no proof and there are false statements that have no disproof.

A false statement is false. The fact that a particular false statement
can not be shown to be false does not mean that it "maybe possible".

[QUOTE=chalsall;368587]
We'll each find out who was correct when we each, individually, die.[/QUOTE]... or, as I suspect, we won't.

AFAIK the preponderance of evidence indicates that we won't actually find out anything when we die. Advocates of such a finding-out have never presented reliable evidence to support that.

That -- that we just stop, with no further thoughts or consciousness -- can be a scary thought, and it's understandable that many people reject that idea.

There are bodily phenomena that have been (mis)interpreted as evidence of some afterlife (in which someone could have already "found out") or other supernatural occurrence, but scientific investigation eventually turns up non-supernatural explanations.

Examples that might have application to near-death or resuscitation-after-flatline OOBEs:

"Voluntary out-of-body experience: an fMRI study"
[URL]http://journal.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fnhum.2014.00070/full[/URL]

"Man Gets Brain Scan During Out-of-Body Experiences in Scientists' Lab"
[URL]http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20071031/out-of-body-experiences-brainy-clues[/URL]

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;368627]The fact that a particular false statement can not be shown to be false does not mean that it "maybe possible".[/QUOTE]

LOL... I hoped you would enter this philosophical discussion.

Care to render your opinion on the question of god?

Can you prove, or disprove, that it does, or does not, exist?

[QUOTE=cheesehead;368629]... or, as I suspect, we won't.[/QUOTE]

Concur.

[QUOTE=chalsall;368612]Because I cannot prove that a god does not exist. Nor can you. Nor can anyone.
If one cannot disprove something, then that means that that something maybe possible.[/QUOTE]

How do you know NO ONE can PROVE that no god exists?
Do you know everyone's mind?

(It is in fact false. It can be proven. And please don't answer
HOW can it be proven, unless you really want to know
how to prove there is no "God" or gods.

[QUOTE=chalsall;368587]BUT, some find it/its (their personal God(s)) important in their lives.

Since we can't prove they're wrong (and we might be), I would argue that so long as no harm is at risk to another person this should be perfectly acceptable.

We'll each find out who was correct when we each, individually, die.[/QUOTE]
:goodposting: +1

[QUOTE=chalsall;368630]LOL... I hoped you would enter this philosophical discussion.

Care to render your opinion on the question of god?

Can you prove, or disprove, that it does, or does not, exist?[/QUOTE]

Ask Michael Valentine Smith

I can prove that god either do not exists, or if it exists it does not listen to us, or if it listen to us, it is either idiot or it does not care. I say "god, if you are there and you are sometimes listening to me and you care, give me a million dollars on this desk in front of me right now. If you don't do it, then you are an idiot".

Still nothing on the desk.

No zzzaaappp thunder either...

I am still waiting...


or... maybe... this god thing does not work like that? :whistle:
(looking for the user manual... hmm... does it come with an user manual?...)