[QUOTE=S485122;390980]This is obviously a false analogy : it has been proven that the there are infinitely many primes. This means that a proof of the contrary cannot exist.

In the case of whatever mythological entity most of the time one cannot prove its in-existence*. F.I. the FSM or flying spaghetti monster cannot be disproved, there are no proofs of its existence, but one cannot prove its in-existence.

Knowing in-existence cannot be disproved does not make one an agnostic. In my opinion an agnostic is willing to apprehend a possibility of existence, even if it is remote. An atheist, on the other hand, is reasonably sure of in-existence : "since I cannot prove in-existence, there is a possibility the entity exists, but the chances of that are negligible, therefore I act as if in-existence where a fact." And to restate the obvious, the number of supernatural entities invented by mankind is so huge that the atheist's position is reinforced, most of those entities are mutually exclusive (in the mind of the believers).

I would conclude by saying that only theists believe they can prove the in-existence of supernatural entities, i.e. al those not part of their own faith ;-)

Jacob

* The exceptions are entities that allegedly have proprieties that are obviously false, f.i. "there is ghost that destroyed every building in London to rubble in August this year." Perhaps not the best example but I do not want to put more energy in this : I do believe : in laziness.[/QUOTE]

Your atheism Is a bit different from mine.

I personally think I have proven, at least to myself, with absolute certainty, there is no God.
And includes everyone else's personal God or "possible candidate" for existence.

I acknowledge one can still be an atheist without such a proof, and I respect that.

Here's the [B]World Challenge Proof[/B]

[code]
Proof of the Fact that There is No God:

Step 1: If you're an atheist, skip step 2.

Step 2: Accept the fact that there is no God.

Step 3: Try to disprove the fact that there is no God.

Step 4: Answer the question: "Is there a God?" (yes or no)

Step 5: If NO, skip step 6.

Step 6: If YES, go to step 2.

Step 7: Answer the question: "Are you an atheist?" (yes or no)

Step 8: If NO, go to step 1.

Step 9: If YES, go to step 10.

Step 10: Accept the fact that you are an atheist.

Step 11: Go to step 1 or step 12.

Step 12: Stop reading this proof.
[/code]:smile:

Grrr.. very inefficient! You could for example eliminate steps 5/6 (by reordering) and 9 (redundant) and there are cases for which the algorithm is undecided (never finishes). :smile:

Step 4 has insufficient answer space. You need to add options "maybe" and/or "undecided" and/or "unsure" and/or "don't know".

Ah so grasshoppers, very insightful. But there is a purpose
to all things in this epistemological proof. As your
programming proficiency just proved, there's a pedagogical
value for non-programmer non-believers, in providing
just the right amount of redundancy and repetition.

[QUOTE=retina;391000]Step 4 has insufficient answer space. You need to add options "maybe" and/or "undecided" and/or "unsure" and/or "don't know".[/QUOTE]

No, if not yes or no, just fall through to step 7.

[QUOTE=davar55;390992]I personally think I have proven, [I][B]at least to myself[/B][/I], with absolute certainty, there is no God.
And includes everyone else's personal God or "possible candidate" for existence.
[/QUOTE]
“Donc, l’atheisme c’est votre religion!” (as quoted by Karl Marx)

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Funny. But this promo will never make the airwaves. :smile:

'God and country' recruit poster axed from Army office
 

From The Army Times:
[QUOTE]A poster with the phrase [URL="http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/01/16/-phoenix-mikey-weinstein-recruiting/21873217/"]"On a mission for both God and country"[/URL] on display outside a Phoenix recruiting station was removed Friday morning, an Army Recruiting Command spokesman said, hours after the unapproved display was brought to the command's attention.[/QUOTE]Now I picked up this story from DKos, and the vitriolic "it's obviously fake" comments are, shall we say, lengthy. Then this one turns up:
[QUOTE]
Just to clear this up:
I, too, did NOT think this was a real photo. There's NO WAY the army would have let this pass muster, must have been faked, etc.
HOWEVER: It IS indeed real.
(same link as above)
The Army gives recruiting offices blank templates so they can recruit with a local bent (i.e. Fight for the freedom of Peoria!)
This recruiting office decided they would use the blank template for a little proselytizing and did not go through the proper channels to get it approved. Needless to say, someone who read this diary talked to someone in the Army and the Army brass understandably told the recruiting station to stop it immediately.
So, yes, I thought it had to be fake, but it is in fact real and it's a good thing Mikey brought it up because it's now being taken down.

by justheretoclearthisup on Fri Jan 16, 2015 at [/QUOTE][URL="http://kos.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=a4r7KHusEuQ36AfuTgsmtLQHbL7HPgv0"]
[/URL][URL="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/15/1358006/-STOP-READ-LOOK-AT-SHOCKING-PHOTO-U-S-Army-Official-Recruitment-for-Mission-for-God?"]The Kos diary[/URL] is by [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_L._Weinstein"]Mikey Weinstein[/URL] of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

For God and Country, doesn't bother this atheist so much. After all the job of an Army Ranger is to kill people and religious types do seem to be better at that than atheists.