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c10ck3r 2012-09-05 19:28

CPU Swap Q?
 
Hey guys! I have an old desktop (~5 y.o.) that has a GTX 460 running mfaktc off and on. I have trouble utilizing the full potential of the GPU due to using my Pentium D 940, which cannot feed it fast enough to make full use of the GPU. Is there any CPU I can upgrade to without having to switch the mobo and all that [B]which would be able to feed the GPU fully[/B]?
Suggestions, comments, and/or bunnies with pancakes accepted!

Dubslow 2012-09-05 20:02

[QUOTE=c10ck3r;310423]Hey guys! I have an old desktop (~5 y.o.) that has a GTX 460 running mfaktc off and on. I have trouble utilizing the full potential of the GPU due to using my Pentium D 940, which cannot feed it fast enough to make full use of the GPU. Is there any CPU I can upgrade to without having to switch the mobo[/QUOTE]

Not even close. The socket in which the CPU sits changes with each architecture, which for Intel has been every two years. [URL="http://ark.intel.com/products/27519/Intel-Pentium-D-Processor-940-(4M-Cache-3_20-GHz-800-MHz-FSB)"]Your socket is PLGA775[/URL]; first generation Core i* processors (Nehalem/Westmere) used LGA1156, and the current generation Sandy/Ivy Bridge processors use LGA1155. (I believe Haswell/Broadwell will use LGA1150.)

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IntelProcessorRoadmap-3.svg[/url]

sdbardwick 2012-09-05 20:10

Going to depend on motherboard (VRM and BIOS versions); some 775 boards will take up to Core2Quad processors.
Whether that is enough of an upgrade to feed a 460 IDK; no nvidia here.

Prime95 2012-09-05 20:18

[QUOTE=c10ck3r;310423]Hey guys! I have an old desktop (~5 y.o.) that has a GTX 460 running mfaktc off and on. I have trouble utilizing the full potential of the GPU due to using my Pentium D 940, which cannot feed it fast enough to make full use of the GPU. Is there any CPU I can upgrade to without having to switch the mobo and all that [B]which would be able to feed the GPU fully[/B]?
Suggestions, comments, and/or bunnies with pancakes accepted![/QUOTE]

Are you willing to work on small Fermat numbers or the double Mersennes (MM61, MM89, MM107, and my favorite MM127)?

If so, I'll have an mfaktc variant that can test those numbers doing all sieving on the GPU. It should be ready for testing within a week.

BTW, MM127 has no factors less than 2^176 (I retested 2^169 to 2^176). I'm 80% done through 2^177. Nineteen days after that I'll have tested through 2^178. Rcv is testing 2^178 to 2^179 at the same time.

kladner 2012-09-05 20:33

A little poking around suggests that Core2 Duo and Quad CPUs use LGA 775.

Quad example:
[URL]http://ark.intel.com/products/35428/Intel-Core2-Quad-Processor-Q9650-12M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB[/URL]

This thread discusses replacing the D940 with a Core 2 Duo E8400:

[URL]http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t286218.html[/URL]

The catch is that you would need to know that your BIOS can be updated to support Core2. It appears that the Core2 would use less power than the D940.

If you search "Pentium D940 replacement" lots of hits come up. I ran across a Tom's Hardware discussion that I can't find my way back to, but it allowed of the possibility on SOME boards.

I do assume that you are already running 2x mfaktc. What is the motherboard make and model?


EDIT: What I've read suggests that the Core2's are substantially faster than the Pentium D's, clock for clock. Some people here are running Core2 Quads. Perhaps they can weigh in on their capabilities.

Dubslow 2012-09-05 20:42

[QUOTE=kladner;310431]What I've read suggests that the Core2's are substantially faster than the Pentium D's, clock for clock. Some people here are running Core2 Quads. Perhaps they can weigh in on their capabilities.[/QUOTE]

And the current Britches are substantially faster than the Core2s, clock for clock... :cmd:

kladner 2012-09-05 20:56

[QUOTE=Dubslow;310432]And the current Britches are substantially faster than the Core2s, clock for clock... :cmd:[/QUOTE]
Huh? :huh:

kracker 2012-09-05 20:58

[QUOTE=kladner;310434]Huh? :huh:[/QUOTE]

Clock speed isn't everything for speed :max:
For the best example look at AMD BD.

Dubslow 2012-09-05 20:59

[QUOTE=kladner;310434]Huh? :huh:[/QUOTE]
Bridges. SB and IB.
[QUOTE=kracker;310435]Clock speed isn't everything for speed :max:
For the best example look at AMD BD.[/QUOTE]
:missingteeth:

c10ck3r 2012-09-05 21:03

Yessir, m'lord
 
[QUOTE=Prime95;310429]Are you willing to work on small Fermat numbers or the double Mersennes (MM61, MM89, MM107, and my favorite MM127)?

If so, I'll have an mfaktc variant that can test those numbers doing all sieving on the GPU. It should be ready for testing within a week.

BTW, MM127 has no factors less than 2^176 (I retested 2^169 to 2^176). I'm 80% done through 2^177. Nineteen days after that I'll have tested through 2^178. Rcv is testing 2^178 to 2^179 at the same time.[/QUOTE]
I would [U]definitely[/U] be interested in the Fermat variant of mfaktc. I ran a couple ranges on CPU in cahoots with fermatsearch.org, and enjoy this kind of work (in addition to P-1 and LLRing riesel and sierpinski(sp).)

kladner 2012-09-05 21:12

[QUOTE=Dubslow;310436]Bridges. SB and IB.

:missingteeth:[/QUOTE]

O.....K. I'm just not quick enough. Of course they are much more powerful. But the OP wants to stick with the current MB.


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