Radovan Karadzic found guilty (but will appeal).
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Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic has been convicted of genocide and war crimes in the 1992-95 Bosnian war, and sentenced to 40 years in jail.
UN judges in The Hague found him guilty of 10 of 11 charges, including genocide over the 1995 Srebrenica massacre.
Karadzic, 70, is the most senior political figure to face judgement over the violent collapse of Yugoslavia.
His case is being seen as one of the most important war crimes trials since World War Two.
He had denied the charges, saying that any atrocities committed were the actions of rogue individuals, not the forces under his command.
The trial, in which he represented himself, lasted eight years.
The current president of the Bosnian Serb Republic, Milorad Dodik, condemned the verdict.
[/QUOTE]Press article (in English): [URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35893804[/URL]

[B]Ex-CIA agent loses extradition appeal in Portuguese court[/B]

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De Sousa was among 26 Americans convicted in absentia in Italy for the 2003 kidnapping of an Egyptian cleric in Milan, when she was working in the country under diplomatic cover...
A lower court ruled in January that De Sousa should be turned over to Italy following her arrest at Lisbon airport in October on a European warrant.
De Sousa, who was born in India and holds both US and Portuguese passports, was on her way to visit her elderly mother in India with a round-trip ticket when she was detained.
[/QUOTE]Press article: [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/11/ex-cia-agent-sabrina-de-sousa-loses-extradition-appeal-portugal-italy[/URL]

[B]MI5 chief’s complaint over MI6 role in ‘war on terror’ abductions caused prolonged breakdown in relations[/B]
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British involvement in controversial and clandestine rendition operations provoked an unprecedented row between the UK’s domestic and foreign intelligence services, MI5 and MI6, at the height of the “war on terror”, the Guardian can reveal.
The head of MI5, Eliza Manningham-Buller, was so incensed when she discovered the role played by MI6 in abductions that led to suspected extremists being tortured, she threw out a number of her sister agency’s staff and banned them from working at MI5’s headquarters, Thames House.

According to Whitehall sources, she also wrote to the then prime minister, Tony Blair, to complain about the conduct of MI6 officers, saying their actions had threatened Britain’s intelligence gathering and may have compromised the security and safety of MI5 officers and their informants.

The letter caused a serious and prolonged breakdown of trust between Britain’s domestic and foreign spy agencies provoked by the Blair government’s support for rendition.
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Press article: [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/31/revealed-britain-rendition-policy-rift-between-spy-agencies-mi6-mi5[/URL]

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/politics/cia-documents-torture/[/url]

[QUOTE]In one heavily redacted communique sent out on August 12, 2002, the author discourages CIA employees from using "speculative language as to the legality of given activities" and from making "judgment calls as to their legality." The note concluded by saying "such language is not helpful."[/QUOTE]

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[B]"Would Turkey be justified in kidnapping or drone-killing the Turkish cleric in Pennsylvania?[/B]"

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U.S. drone kills of terror [I]suspects[/I] (including its own citizens) are extremely popular among Americans, including (in the age of Obama) those who self-identify as liberal Democrats. Yet it’s virtually certain that Americans across the ideological spectrum would explode in nationalistic outrage if Turkey actually did the same thing in Pennsylvania; indeed, the consequences for Turkey if it dared to do so are hard to overstate.
[/QUOTE]Glenn Greenwald article: [URL]https://theintercept.com/2016/07/18/would-turkey-be-justified-in-kidnapping-or-drone-killing-the-turkish-cleric-in-pennsylvania/[/URL]

[url]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/08/05/guantanamo-parole-board-clears-34th-detainee.html[/url]

[QUOTE]…who has never been charged with a crime…[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=garo;310073]But you did excuse his inaction by talking about the complicated relationship between the legislature and the executive. I may not be American but I spent most of my twenties in the US and am well versed with the political and legislative process in the US. < snip > So stop making assumptions about my knowledge or lack thereof.[/QUOTE]

Well, garo, if I had assumed that you _did_ know all the intricacies of the relationship between Congress and the president, then I would have therefore to have assumed that you _did_ know why provisions such as the following, in this year's military authorization bill, constitute a barrier to Obama's simply closing the Guantanamo Bay prison by executive fiat, as you claimed that he could if he really wanted to.

[quote=https://www.gop.gov/bill/h-r-5293-department-defense-appropriations-act-2017/]. . .

Section 8097 prohibits funding to transfer or release any individual detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba into the United States, its territories, or possessions.[URL="https://www.gop.gov/bill/h-r-5293-department-defense-appropriations-act-2017/#_ftn15"][U][15][/U][/URL]

Section 8098 prohibits funding to modify any United States facility (other than the facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba) to house any individual detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. This language is identical to language enacted in Public Law 112–74.[URL="https://www.gop.gov/bill/h-r-5293-department-defense-appropriations-act-2017/#_ftn16"][U][16][/U][/URL]

. . .

Section 8130 prohibits the use of funds to close facilities at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay.[URL="https://www.gop.gov/bill/h-r-5293-department-defense-appropriations-act-2017/#_ftn21"][U][21][/U][/URL]

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There have also been similar provisions in the defense appropriations bills passed by a Republican-controlled Congress in preceding years of the Obama administration.

Now, if you really have understood such a thing all along, don't you think you need to modify your prior accusations? It's been Republicans standing in the way, not Obama.

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(Folks, let's see whether Garo responds to this _without_ dragging in strawmen or making ad hominem attacks on me.)

[QUOTE=ch4;439707]......
Now, if you do understand such a thing, you need to retract your prior slander that Obama could just close the Guantanamo Bay prison if he really wanted to.[/QUOTE]
Could you check the date of Garo's post? Tell us what it is. I looked back several pages in this thread, and did not find a post from Garo. I would like to see what you are answering. :smile: