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James Heinrich 2012-02-08 00:59

[QUOTE=c10ck3r;288587]is there a GPU program for P-1, or is it still relegated to CPUs with loads of RAM?[/quote]Currently limited to CPUs. A GPU-based P-1 program is very desirable, but not yet in existence. But perhaps this will be the year it shows up (e.g. [i]flashjh[/i] mentioned an interest on working on the problem a few posts up).

[QUOTE=c10ck3r;288587]On a related note, is it possible to get P-1 with B1 less than 75000?[/QUOTE]A P-1 can be done (with more-or-less) any bounds, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. P-1 assignments in the current range (around 50M) will have bounds in the order of roughly B1=500,000; B2=10,000,000 which is a far cry from B1=75,000. Why that particular number for B1? That would've been selected as a typical B1 when working on assignments in the 5M range.

bcp19 2012-02-08 01:17

Chalsall,
I was wondering, seeing as we are starting to 'knock on the door' of DC exp's to take to ^70, is it possible to set up a check box to get 'default' limits so if there happen to be any ^69 exp's they are picked up as ^69 and the ^70's as ^70's?

oswald 2012-02-08 01:29

[QUOTE=KyleAskine;288581]So much for trying to fight for #3.

One of my PC's (w/ HD5870) was crashed the entire weekend, so I lost around half of my throughput since the last time I updated.

:no:[/QUOTE]
Did you lose your results? If you need data recovery, maybe I can help.

c10ck3r 2012-02-08 02:19

Bad Rationale
 
[QUOTE=James Heinrich;288588] P-1 assignments in the current range (around 50M) will have bounds in the order of roughly B1=500,000; B2=10,000,000 which is a far cry from B1=75,000. Why that particular number for B1? That would've been selected as a typical B1 when working on assignments in the 5M range.[/QUOTE]
I was looking to do short-term P-1 assignments in, say, the 1XXM exponent range, with my...less than desirable memory (2GB installed).
Next question-Would running B1=B2 get rid of stage 2, thus not being so RAM-intensive? If so, what would the ideal B1 be for the 50M range or so?

Dubslow 2012-02-08 02:33

B1=B2 means no stage 2, yes. On the other hand, depending on what OS/programs you're running, if you had only one P-1 worker and gave it like 1200-1500MB, that would be more than enough to do a decent P-1 (much better than B1=B2, even with increased B1).

It is my personal opinion that B1=B2 runs are not worth it. If GIMPS somehow ever pulls ahead of the LL wave with P-1 (yeah right) the next thing I'm doing is going back and redoing all those.

James Heinrich 2012-02-08 02:56

[QUOTE=c10ck3r;288596]I was looking to do short-term P-1 assignments in, say, the 1XXM exponent range, with my...less than desirable memory (2GB installed).[/quote]If I may suggest: don't. If you do it with poor bounds, there's a reasonable chance that someone may either a) waste time running L-L on an exponent that should've already had a factor found; or b) waste time re-running the P-1 with proper bounds. Running P-1 with minimal memory is one thing at the current wavefront, it will inevitably happen; running it years ahead of the wavefront on knowingly suboptimal hardware is unwise.

Running [URL=http://mersenne-aries.sili.net/prob.php?exponent=100000000&guess_saved_tests=2]P-1 on M100,000,000[/URL] should require a minimum of around 900MB of RAM allocated to Prime95 (but would prefer 2GB-20GB).

[quote]Next question-Would running B1=B2 get rid of stage 2, thus not being so RAM-intensive?[/quote]Yes. It will also drop the factor probability from ~5% to ~3% for the same runtime effort (meaning your P-1 factoring is only 60% as efficient as letting it run stage2).

[quote]If so, what would the ideal B1 be for the 50M range or so?[/quote]Whatever Prime95 picks with as much RAM as you can let it have. (Seriously, it's a complex iterative calculation to balance probability vs effort breakevens).
Even 500MB is acceptable for a P-1 in the 50M range, and highly preferable to a B1=B2 run.

For example:
50M with 500MB allocated gets you [URL=http://mersenne-aries.sili.net/prob.php?exponent=50000000&guess_saved_tests=2&factorbits=72]4.21% at 3.37GHz-days[/URL].
but
50M with B1=B2 gets you [URL=http://mersenne-aries.sili.net/prob.php?exponent=50000000&work=3.371327&factorbits=72&b1only=1]2.63% at 3.37GHz-days[/URL] (same effort, lower probability)
or
50M with B1=B2 gets you [URL=http://mersenne-aries.sili.net/prob.php?exponent=50000000&prob=4.212662&factorbits=72&b1only=1]4.21% at 13.80GHz-days[/URL] (same probability, much higher effort)

kladner 2012-02-08 03:48

[QUOTE=KyleAskine;288581]So much for trying to fight for #3.

One of my PC's (w/ HD5870) was crashed the entire weekend, so I lost around half of my throughput since the last time I updated.

:no:[/QUOTE]

I offer sympathy for unexpected occurrences. Just remember, This Too Shall Pass, in the long run. This race (if you want to call it that) is far from over.

flashjh 2012-02-08 04:07

[QUOTE=James Heinrich;288601]
For example:
50M with 500MB allocated gets you [URL="http://mersenne-aries.sili.net/prob.php?exponent=50000000&guess_saved_tests=2&factorbits=72"]4.21% at 3.37GHz-days[/URL].
but
50M with B1=B2 gets you [URL="http://mersenne-aries.sili.net/prob.php?exponent=50000000&work=3.371327&factorbits=72&b1only=1"]2.63% at 3.37GHz-days[/URL] (same effort, lower probability)
or
50M with B1=B2 gets you [URL="http://mersenne-aries.sili.net/prob.php?exponent=50000000&prob=4.212662&factorbits=72&b1only=1"]4.21% at 13.80GHz-days[/URL] (same probability, much higher effort)[/QUOTE]

I don't understand the last one?

Dubslow 2012-02-08 04:20

[QUOTE=flashjh;288606]I don't understand the last one?[/QUOTE]

I don't understand your question?

flashjh 2012-02-08 04:23

[QUOTE=Dubslow;288608]I don't understand your question?[/QUOTE]

I figured it out... I wasn't looking at the links. B1=B1 with two different results, but the links explain it.

KyleAskine 2012-02-08 14:52

[QUOTE=oswald;288591]Did you lose your results? If you need data recovery, maybe I can help.[/QUOTE]

Oh no, it just hard locked (as Linux tends to do when the video driver explodes). All hardware is fine.

I got a touch too aggressive with my O/C, and I didn't watch it long enough to see if it was fine.


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