Math concpt
 

In fact when we say 'Eratosthenes sieve' which is the math concept:

1- The method of removing all bad values to have the good
2 The method it self: taker p and invalidate p1,p2 p3,p4
The two : how to make the prime list?.
i/e what a new sieve must do to be a new sieve
Thanks
John

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_of_Eratosthenes[/url]

[QUOTE=JohnFullspeed;266012]In fact when we say 'Eratosthenes sieve' which is the math concept:

1- The method of removing all bad values to have the good
[Any program that does this for a large class of "bad" values in an attempt to find a small class of "good" values is referred to as a "sieve", as in NFS, MPQS, Sieve of Aitkin, Sieve of Eratosthenes.]
2 The method it self: taker p and invalidate p1,p2 p3,p4
[This is the sieve of Eratosthenes...eliminating multiples of P from your list of possible prime numbers].

The two : how to make the prime list?.
i/e what a new sieve must do to be a new sieve
Thanks
John[/QUOTE]

The sieve of John Fullspeed must either
1) Do something useful that is different than finding prime numbers (and do it in a way not obviously equivalent to someone else's way of doing it)
or
2) Find prime numbers in a way that is not obviously equivalent to one of the known sieves.

If you want to do either, you will need to carry out Richard Silverman's advice, and not just the part directed to you. That famous professor you mentioned in another thread might also be able to give you some pointers, or help you get a degree in mathematics.

The third, more likely possibility is that you implement eratosthenes sieve better than others. It's still a rough task; begin by studying jasonp's code and others.

John Sieve
 

[QUOTE=Christenson;266030]The sieve of John Fullspeed must either
1) Do something useful that is different than finding prime numbers (and do it in a way not obviously equivalent to someone else's way of doing it)
or
2) Find prime numbers in a way that is not obviously equivalent to one of the known sieves.

If you want to do either, you will need to carry out Richard Silverman's advice, and not just the part directed to you. That famous professor you mentioned in another thread might also be able to give you some pointers, or help you get a degree in mathematics.

The third, more likely possibility is that you implement eratosthenes sieve better than others. It's still a rough task; begin by studying jasonp's code and others.[/QUOTE]


1- Do something new: I begin by creating a List with all the primed
not 2 < x < n

2- I remove composite value of my list not the multiple
n
3- My sieve go speeder that all the actual sieve for a technical reason not because a better implementation..?

My sieve is especial good for twin research and Sophie Germain it gives strong candidates ((not all the primes)
It create a twin mask that you can use starting from arbitrary number

You need less tha1 second to find candidats
and less 1 second to says if is a twin of a SG.

Is It a new sieve ora sppeder version of etastho...
The suestion is tha: well qualify the method

John


PS
I don't understad

[QUOTE]you will need[COLOR=Red] to carry out[/COLOR] Richard Silverman's advice, and not just the[COLOR=DarkRed] part directed to you.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnFullspeed;266066]1- Do something new: I begin by creating a List with all the primed
not 2 < x < n

2- I remove composite value of my list not the multiple
n
3- My sieve go speeder that all the actual sieve for a technical reason not because a better implementation..?

My sieve is especial good for twin research and Sophie Germain it gives strong candidates ((not all the primes)
It create a twin mask that you can use starting from arbitrary number

You need less tha1 second to find candidats
and less 1 second to says if is a twin of a SG.

Is It a new sieve ora sppeder version of etastho...
The suestion is tha: well qualify the method

John


PS
I don't understad[/QUOTE]

Suggestion: Either you have taken too many drugs, or you are in dire need of a new keyboard and/or typing lessons. Please rectify the situation as appropriate before posting again. Thanks.

° p^2

°°:
+2*p

2 ___ (..3-1)=..2 [..5"[B]c[/B]" [B]ignore[/B] ]
4 ___ (..1+3)=..4 [.."[B]c[/B]"]
6 ___ (..9-3)=..6 [.."[B]c[/B]"]
8 ___ (..7+1)=..8 [.."[B]c[/B]"]

:°°

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[QUOTE=NBtarheel_33;266071]Suggestion: Either you have taken too many drugs, or you are in dire need of a new keyboard and/or typing lessons. Please rectify the situation as appropriate before posting again. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[SIZE=5]I give you my ASC(Ataxie), you change the police size to 26 , you post in French . We shall see you do less errors than me[/SIZE]

JOHN

[QUOTE=cmd;266072]° p^2

°°:
+2*p

2 ___ (..3-1)=..2 [..5"[B]c[/B]" [B]ignore[/B] ]
4 ___ (..1+3)=..4 [.."[B]c[/B]"]
6 ___ (..9-3)=..6 [.."[B]c[/B]"]
8 ___ (..7+1)=..8 [.."[B]c[/B]"]

:°°

(?[/QUOTE]≈
It's funny to laugh of handicap but be careful tomorrow it's can be you who choice a wheelchair (with a doc i french size 6)
I ithink that the artificial intelligencer can do nothing for you: try with the
monkeys

You prefer be Blind or Deaf? No problrm for me me I am the two...

John

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iI'm happy
 

[SIZE=4]To [/SIZE][SIZE=4]see what nice picture you give and the forum also of USA
[/SIZE][SIZE=4]Be quiet you don't give the desir to go to USA
Begin by learn what is respect and after you perhaps stop to make stupid war. CMD you are not in Baghdad to die for Coca or Texan ?


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[SIZE=6][SIZE=4]May God [/SIZE][SIZE=4]save America : it needs.[/SIZE]
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[QUOTE=NBtarheel_33;266071]Suggestion: Either you have taken too many drugs, or you are in dire need of a new keyboard and/or typing lessons. Please rectify the situation as appropriate before posting again. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Please keep in mind that English is not his first language; His English
is about on a par with my French........:smile:

[QUOTE=JohnFullspeed;266066]
PS
I don't understad[/QUOTE]

John:

Richard Silverman's advice is to get a good book on number theory and learn it. It will help you tremendously in making any programs for this forum. I agree with his advice.

The posts you write don't make sense, because your typing is inaccurate even in French, and the message deteriorates badly through your broken English. This deterioration has lead many to conclude that you have no idea what you are talking about. I'm willing to practice my French translating you, but you really do need someone else to read over what you write before posting.

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[QUOTE=JohnFullspeed;266108][SIZE=4]To [/SIZE][SIZE=4]see what nice picture you give and the forum also of USA
[/SIZE][SIZE=4]Be quiet you don't give the desir to go to USA
Begin by learn what is respect and after you perhaps stop to make stupid war. CMD you are not in Baghdad to die for Coca or Texan ?


[/SIZE]
[SIZE=6][SIZE=4]May God [/SIZE][SIZE=4]save America : it needs.[/SIZE]
[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

nous ne sont pas :

c(m)d_([URL="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metatrons_cube.svg"]M[/URL])etatrons
cm(d)_ du traction
cm(d) deducions

nous sommes cmd-x&y-free : °2468=aeiou [y bdpq x] (c

[URL="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragramma_biblico"]AEIOU[/URL] is ...




[COLOR="LemonChiffon"]au course du sauveteur[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Christenson;266030]The sieve of John Fullspeed must either
1) Do something useful that is different than finding prime numbers (and do it in a way not obviously equivalent to someone else's way of doing it)
or
2) Find prime numbers in a way that is not obviously equivalent to one of the known sieves.

If you want to do either, you will need to carry out Richard Silverman's advice, and not just the part directed to you. That famous professor you mentioned in another thread might also be able to give you some pointers, or help you get a degree in mathematics.

The third, more likely possibility is that you implement eratosthenes sieve better than others. It's still a rough task; begin by studying jasonp's code and others.[/QUOTE]

C'est claire que Mr Fullspeed pas comprende, donc j'ecris en Francais, traduisant avec quelques libertes:

Si vous voulez une "nouvelle" sieve de "John Fullspeed", il faut faire au moins un de trois choses:

1) Le sieve Faire quelque chose utile mais ce chose n'est pas trouve des nombres premiers, et ce chose n'est pas tres evident le meme q'un autre methode...

2) Le sieve trouver les nombre premiers, mais ce methode n'est pas tres evident le meme q'un seive deja connu.

3) Faire une sieve connu mieux que autres ici, comme Jasonp.

Pour Numero un et numero deux il faut etudier le theorie des nombres comme Richard Silverman a dit quelques fois; ce professeur fameux (d'ont vous avez parlee) peut aider votre etudes.

Pour numero trois il faut etudier le code de Jasonp, parce que il fait ses sieves tres bien, et il faut monter nous que vous comprendez les optimizations nous a deja discutee. C'est dur....mais jasonp a travaille quelques annes sur son sieves; c'est pas possible de le surmont sans travaille.

***********
Corriger la Francais, s'il vous plait, mais faire cela en francais.

*get translator hat*
Le programe de Jhon Fullspeed doit, soi
1) Faire qqchose d'utile qui ne soit pas trouver des nombres premiers ( et le faire d'une maniere originale)
ou
2) Trouver des nombres premiers d'une façon originale non-equivalente aux methode connues

Si tu veux faire çaa, tu devrait suivre l'avis de Richard Silverman, et pas seulement les parties qui te concerne. Le Professeur que tu a cité dans un autre fil de discussion pourrait te donner des indication, ou t'aider a faire une these.

La troisieme possibilitée, plus plausible, est d' ameliorer le criblage d'erastomene .Cela restera difficile : commence par etudier le code de jasonp et ceux des autres.

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i'm confortable with french to english and english french translation. would you need anything translated... I think i can handle... except if there is too much math

mercy buttercups!!!!:smile:

[QUOTE=Christenson;266125]Richard Silverman's advice is ...[/QUOTE]

Who he?

[QUOTE=axn;266166]Who he?[/QUOTE]

The love child of cheesehead ([B]Richard[/B] Woods) and Robert [B]Silverman[/B], LOL :smile:...

[QUOTE=cmd;266132]nous ne sont pas :

c(m)d_([URL="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metatrons_cube.svg"]M[/URL])etatrons
cm(d)_ du traction
cm(d) deducions

nous sommes cmd-x&y-free : °2468=aeiou [y bdpq x] (c

[URL="http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragramma_biblico"]AEIOU[/URL] is ...




[COLOR=lemonchiffon]au course du sauveteur[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

AEIOU are vowels, which mine always feel loose after reading one of your posts...oh wait, that's something else...:cmd:

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;266117]Please keep in mind that English is not his first language; His English
is about on a par with my French........:smile:[/QUOTE]

Yes, but I'm not sure that his keyboarding skills are that great in either language. And his mathematics is questionable at best.

Reminds me of a student I once had who claimed that he was unable to use a US keyboard because he was from Burma, and in Burma, the keys on a keyboard are supposedly laid out in alphabetical order. I asked him to show me a photo or at least a layout of a Burmese alphabetical keyboard, and strangely enough, he could not procure one and suddenly decided that he was able to use the regular old English QWERTY keyboards...

[QUOTE=JohnFullspeed;266108][SIZE=4]To [/SIZE][SIZE=4]see what nice picture you give and the forum also of USA[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Be quiet you don't give the desir to go to USA[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Begin by learn what is respect and after you perhaps stop to make stupid war. CMD you are not in Baghdad to die for Coca or Texan ?[/SIZE]



[SIZE=6][SIZE=4]May God [/SIZE][SIZE=4]save America : it needs.[/SIZE]
[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Who said that all of us, nay even most of us, are Americans? There are quite a few nations represented in the project and on the forum.

[SIZE=5]I very,very sorry for my treads but you must know that my hands dont make what i want: for sample [/SIZE]

[SIZE=5]I want to write SASA i type and after I look the screen and i seem $ù$[/SIZE] ???
[SIZE=5]In fact it the right hand whi[/SIZE][SIZE=5]ch had execute

for each word. some times my brain translate a word in English
I make also numerous errors in french

But the computer is my last link with the word

I forget what is

- cold
- hot
- hungry
- walk
- carry
- sentiment
- brain computation
- read a book
- Television
- speak...

so please accept my errors. it very difficult for me to can't exchange with you. Since 35 years I was like you....
Jerôme















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Ecrivez, donc, en Francais...il y a plusieurs ice qui peut lire et traduire, et votre francais est mieux que votre Anglais....
par votre Anglais il parait que vous ne rien comprends...