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davieddy 2011-06-09 08:03

Suggestions for the "Classic Summary" page
 
Some of us are very grateful to George for reviving this.

I find the "expected new primes" column by far the simplest
way of guessing where/when M48 might be found.

1) Quoting George: "Please use sparingly: page takes half a minute
to load and hammers the database".
Yep. I've noticed that it works things out anew on each visit.
An hourly update as per "Status summary" page would suit me fine,
and circumvent these problems.

2) The ranges (long obsolete) could be rounded to the nearest 5M
with little change to the numbers involved.

3) The penultimate 2 columns are surely best consigned to antiquity!

David

PS Milestone reached:

Expected new primes between 50M and 60M now reduced to 0.391
(same as between 60M and 70M)

Uncwilly 2011-06-09 12:48

[QUOTE=davieddy;263342]1) Quoting George: "Please use sparingly: page takes half a minute to load and hammers the database".
Yep. I've noticed that it works things out anew on each visit. An hourly update as per "Status summary" page would suit me fine, and circumvent these problems.[/QUOTE] I have suggested that, or once a day and provide on it the time run. Same thing with the standard millstones page.

davieddy 2011-06-09 13:22

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;263357] Same thing with the standard millstones page.[/QUOTE]

I hope "millstones"(sic) was intentional as opposed to a typo:smile:

Uncwilly 2011-06-10 01:45

[QUOTE=davieddy;263362]I hope "millstones"(sic) was intentional as opposed to a typo:smile:[/QUOTE]Quite so.

davieddy 2011-06-10 12:27

Millstones
 
[QUOTE=Uncwilly;263436]Quite so.[/QUOTE]
If the 2000+ milestones were placed randomly* along
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhkBg8wOBo"]Route 66[/URL]
what would the be the "standard error" of your estimation of the distance
you had travelled from Chicago to LA?

David

*Still ordered numerically of course.

Christenson 2011-06-10 18:47

We need some kind of distribution....otherwise, all the milestones were all placed within an inch of where they were supposed to be...randomly, of course...with standard deviation 1/3 inch....

Let's try for a uniform distribution of the stones, instead...that might be more interesting...

davieddy 2011-06-10 19:46

[QUOTE=Christenson;263496]We need some kind of distribution....otherwise, all the milestones were all placed within an inch of where they were supposed to be...randomly, of course...with standard deviation 1/3 inch....

Let's try for a uniform distribution of the stones, instead...that might be more interesting...[/QUOTE]

This is horrible. Forgotten how many inches in a mile.
Call it i.

Toss an i-sided die (singular of dice) each inch of the way
from Chicago to LA. Whenever you throw i, put down a millstone
and number it one more than the previous one.

The number of [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0u3b5Q6yLY]stones[/url] will approximate the number of miles to LA.

I know. I should stick to writing songs.

David

NBtarheel_33 2011-06-10 22:42

[QUOTE=davieddy;263499]This is horrible. Forgotten how many inches in a mile.
Call it i.[/quote]

Then i = (5280 feet/mile)(12 inches/foot) = 63,360 inches/mile. :smile: I actually learned this by heart after a couple of weeks of physics (the course, not a series of high colonics...)

[QUOTE=davieddy]Toss an i-sided die [/quote]

Which would, for all intents and purposes, be a marble. Though it might make a game of Dungeons and Dragons that much more interesting.

Uncwilly 2011-06-11 00:05

[QUOTE=davieddy;263466]If the 2000+ milestones were placed randomly*[/QUOTE]:direction:

davieddy 2011-06-11 06:36

REFEREE!
 
That was unfair Uncle!

YOU mentioned the "millstone" page.
I was trying to make the point that taking the
known Mersenne primes as "milestones" was about
as useful for measuring GIMPS progress as randomly placed
actual milestones. then threw in a simple math question.

As for the thread title, I await further comments on
my suggestions. I assume George is away ATM.
Must be time for another millstone:smile:

David

davieddy 2011-06-11 09:18

[QUOTE=Christenson;263496]We need some kind of distribution....otherwise, all the milestones were all placed within an inch of where they were supposed to be...randomly, of course...with standard deviation 1/3 inch....

Let's try for a uniform distribution of the stones, instead...that might be more interesting...[/QUOTE]

Got me thinking there.
This deserves another thread (as uncwilly so tactfully suggested).
Where to put it?
Oh yes - the "sin bin", "Misc Math". At least it will probably stay put!*

Await further developments.

David

*I hope it won't get relegated to "useless posts by...."
in the Soap Box :)

PS If you say pick a number between 0 and 1 at random,
what "distribution" is the implied/default assumption?


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