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[QUOTE=Don Blazys;317524]The foundations of mathematics are its axioms,
which are defined as "self evident truths". Consider the "symmetric axiom of equality" which states that if [TEX]c=T[/TEX], then [TEX]T=c[/TEX] and the "substitution axiom of equality" which states that we can always substitute [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)[/TEX] for [TEX]\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX]. Well, if [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)*c^3= \left(\frac{T}{T}\right)*c^3 [/TEX] where [TEX]T=c[/TEX] and the properties of logarithms allow the identity: [TEX] \left(\frac{T}{T}\right)*c^{3}=T*\left(\frac{c}{T}\right)^{\frac{\frac{3*\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}{\frac{\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}}[/TEX] where [TEX]T\not=c[/TEX] then clearly, those so called "symmetric and substitution axioms of equality" are neither self evident, nor always true. Think about it. If we can't always substitute [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)[/TEX] for [TEX]\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX], then we must conclude that [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)=\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX] is not always true, and that there do exist some identities in which [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)\not=\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX] which of course shakes the very foundations of mathematics.[/QUOTE] x/x for x = any value except 0 is asking how many groups of x go into x the answer is always 1, so t/t=1=c/c even if t!=c the reason it doesn't work with 0 is because as wikipedia has shown a/0 = x with a=0 any number of groups of 0 can give you 0 so it can take on any value, and so the value is undefined. |
[QUOTE=Don Blazys;317516][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Quoting "rogue":[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If c != T, then clearly, (T/T) != (c/c).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] Don, do you understand your mistake on this post yet? Assuming you do, then you need to respond to post #533. |
Of course I understand my "mistake".
I am using that "mistake" to illustrate the flaws in our axioms, and the flaws in your reasoning. Now, here's a simple yes or no question. Given the identity: [TEX] \left(\frac{T}{T}\right)*c^{3}=T*\left(\frac{c}{T}\right)^{\frac{\frac{3*\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}{\frac{\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}} [/TEX] can we substitute [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)[/TEX] for [TEX]\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX] ? Please, just answer yes or no without any commentary whatsoever. |
[QUOTE=Don Blazys;317669]Of course I understand my "mistake".
I am using that "mistake" to illustrate the flaws in our axioms, and the flaws in your reasoning. Now, here's a simple yes or no question. Given the identity: [TEX] \left(\frac{T}{T}\right)*c^{3}=T*\left(\frac{c}{T}\right)^{\frac{\frac{3*\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}{\frac{\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}} [/TEX] can we substitute [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)[/TEX] for [TEX]\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX] ? Please, just answer yes or no without any commentary whatsoever.[/QUOTE]No |
Thanks xilman,
I agree. On a side note, and in case you are curious, I did make some progress on that polygonal number counting function. A good fellow named Lars Blomberg was able to determine the actual count w(x) all the way to x=10^15. It took him about a month on what he said was a "state of the art processor" but it was well worth it because with that information, I was able to greatly improve the counting function. Our results are posted below, and if you would like to see what the counting function looks like at this point, then I would be happy to post that here as well. It's really quite interesting, and as you can see, the accuracy is remarkable. x_______________________Actual Count____________Counting Function______Difference 10_______________________3______________________5___________________2 100______________________57_____________________60__________________3 1,000____________________622____________________628_________________6 10,000___________________6,357__________________6,364________________7 100,000__________________63,889_________________63,910_______________21 1,000,000________________639,946________________639,963______________17 10,000,000_______________6,402,325______________6,402,362_____________37 100,000,000______________64,032,121_____________64,032,273____________152 1,000,000,000____________640,349,979____________640,350,090____________111 10,000,000,000___________6,403,587,409__________6,403,587,408__________-1 100,000,000,000__________64,036,148,166_________64,036,147,620_________-546 1,000,000,000,000________640,362,343,980________640,362,340,975________-3005 10,000,000,000,000_______6,403,626,146,905______6,403,626,142,352_______-4554 100,000,000,000,000______64,036,270,046,655_____64,036,270,047,131_______476 200,000,000,000,000______128,072,542,422,652____128,072,542,422,781______129 300,000,000,000,000______192,108,815,175,881____192,108,815,178,717______2836 400,000,000,000,000______256,145,088,132,145____256,145,088,130,891_____-1254 500,000,000,000,000______320,181,361,209,667____320,181,361,208,163_____-1504 600,000,000,000,000______384,217,634,373,721____384,217,634,374,108______387 700,000,000,000,000______448,253,907,613,837____448,253,907,607,119_____-6718 800,000,000,000,000______512,290,180,895,369____512,290,180,893,137_____-2232 900,000,000,000,000______576,326,454,221,727____576,326,454,222,404______677 1,000,000,000,000,000____640,362,727,589,917____640,362,727,587,828_____-2089 |
Now, here's a simple yes or no question.
Given the identity: [TEX] \left(\frac{T}{T}\right)*c^{2}=T*\left(\frac{c}{T}\right)^{\frac{\frac{2*\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}{\frac{\ln(c)}{\ln(T)}-1}} [/TEX] can we substitute [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)[/TEX] for [TEX]\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX] ? Please, just answer yes or no without any commentary whatsoever. |
No.
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Now, here's a simple yes or no question.
Given the identity: [TEX] \left(\frac{T}{T}\right)*c^{1}=T*\left(\frac{c}{T}\right) [/TEX] can we substitute [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)[/TEX] for [TEX]\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX] ? Please, just answer yes or no without any commentary whatsoever. |
[QUOTE=Don Blazys;317681]Now, here's a simple yes or no question.
Given the identity: [TEX] \left(\frac{T}{T}\right)*c^{1}=T*\left(\frac{c}{T}\right) [/TEX] can we substitute [TEX]\left(\frac{c}{c}\right)[/TEX] for [TEX]\left(\frac{T}{T}\right)[/TEX] ? Please, just answer yes or no without any commentary whatsoever.[/QUOTE]No |
[QUOTE=xilman;317720]No[/QUOTE]
Don didn't ask for it, but I will. What commentary do you have for your answer? |
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