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[QUOTE=science_man_88;256757]I'm semi this just not smart enough to know the muck.[/QUOTE]
That's one of the great things about math -- in theory, at least, a proof can be checked to verify that it's correct. If you break a purported proof into small enough steps, it shouldn't be able to fool you into believing it if it's wrong. |
Quoting CRGreathouse:
[QUOTE] If you can point me to a distinguished mathematician who has attempted to disprove your conjecture but failed -- in his professional view, not yours -- I'd love to hear about it. I'll drop him an email (or perhaps drop by his office, if he's nearby). [/QUOTE] Now that's a great idea! Please contact [B][I]any[/I][/B] of the mathematicians mentioned on my website, or even the N.A.S.A./ J.P.L. scientist who also wrote me a letter of recommendation. In fact, Professors Truss and Partington from the Journal of the London Mathematical Society would be a great place to start! Think about it. If [B][I]everyone[/I][/B] here was to flood them with e-mails, pointing them to [B][U][I][COLOR=red]their[/COLOR][/I][/U][/B] letter (also on my website) and inviting them to this forum to discuss it, then maybe we can resolve the issue of my Proof of Beal's Conjecture, once and for all. Heck, maybe they could even find that referee and let [B][U][COLOR=red]him [/COLOR][/U][/B][COLOR=black]explain [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]why he [COLOR=blue][B][U]supported[/U][/B][/COLOR] my paper all those years ago! [/COLOR] Quoting CRGreathouse: [QUOTE] I've seen at least half a dozen refutations of your work. [/QUOTE] I haven't. [B]Everyone [/B]who tried failed miserably. On the issue of my Proof of Beal's Conjecture, I won each and every debate, and [B][U]that[/U][/B] can be checked by anyone because those debates are all over cyberspace and are a matter of public record. Quoting CRGreathouse: [QUOTE] I won't attempt to give another. [/QUOTE] All it takes is [B][I][U][COLOR=red]one[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B]! Pick [B][I][U][COLOR=red]one[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B] "fatal flaw" and [B][I][U][COLOR=red]one[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B] "champion" from the "math community" to debate it with me in a seperate thread. [COLOR=black][B]Everyone else just watch.[/B] [/COLOR] That way, not only will it be a [B][I]fair[/I][/B] debate, but it will also be [B]very obvious[/B] as to who wins, because we will no longer have all of the inevitable "flaming" and confusion that occurs when too many people post their half baked "pot shots" [B][I]simultaneously[/I][/B]. I promise that if I lose, then I will drop my Proof of Beal's Conjecture like a hot potato and publicly renounce it. Quoting CRGreathouse: [QUOTE]I haven't seen any 'try in vain'.[/QUOTE] Please go to posts number 59, 60 and 61 and tell me who [B][I]you[/I][/B] think won that exchange! Quoting R.D. Silverman: [QUOTE] Given his attitude, ignorant arrogance, outrageous claims and other crank behavior... [/QUOTE] You insult and protest... and protest and protest... and I'm quite sure that by now, people are probably beginning to wonder if perhaps... just perhaps... [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks[/URL]. Don |
[QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]Pick [B][I][U][COLOR=red]one[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B] "fatal flaw" and [B][I][U][COLOR=red]one[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B] "champion" from the "math community"
to debate it with me in a seperate thread. [COLOR=black][B]Everyone else just watch.[/B] [/COLOR][/QUOTE][B]If[/B] this is to be the case, I would suggest a moderator too. Garo is a suitable such individual (to moderate). |
We're not "the math community", and this isn't a reality show with gladiator games.
I finally looked and had no idea sci.math was so bad. It was like nothing had changed since 1994. |
[QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]
Think about it. If [B][I]everyone[/I][/B] here was to flood them with e-mails, pointing them to [B][U][I][COLOR=red]their[/COLOR][/I][/U][/B] letter (also on my website) and inviting them to this forum to discuss it, then maybe we can resolve the issue of my Proof of Beal's Conjecture, once and for all. [/QUOTE] Stop right there. If it's [B]your[/B] proof of Beal's conjecture, then [B]you[/B] should be the one responsible for evaluating/improving the said manuscript. It is not the job of other mathematicians to provide you with free evaluations. See [url]http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/cohn/Thoughts/advice.html[/url] for more advice. |
[QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]Now that's a great idea! Please contact [B][I]any[/I][/B] of the mathematicians
mentioned on my website, or even the N.A.S.A./ J.P.L. scientist who also wrote me a letter of recommendation.[/QUOTE] I didn't see any reputable mathematicians listed there who said that they couldn't find a flaw in your work. [QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]In fact, Professors Truss and Partington from the Journal of the London Mathematical Society would be a great place to start![/QUOTE] They didn't claim to have attempted to disprove your conjecture but failed. [QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]Think about it. If [B][I]everyone[/I][/B] here was to flood them with e-mails, pointing them to [B][U][I][COLOR=red]their[/COLOR][/I][/U][/B] letter (also on my website) and inviting them to this forum to discuss it, then maybe we can resolve the issue of my Proof of Beal's Conjecture, once and for all.[/QUOTE] No, what would happen is that you would once again fail to accept their very simple disproofs. Also, the person contacting them would be sternly reprimanded for wasting their time with this nonsense. (I don't mind going over this stuff. I wouldn't dream of wasting Andrew Granville's time by sending this to him.) [QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]I haven't. [B]Everyone [/B]who tried failed miserably.[/QUOTE] :missingteeth: [QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]Pick [B][I][U][COLOR=red]one[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B] "fatal flaw"[/QUOTE] Been there, done that. Actually, I believe I've pointed out two different flaws, not that more than one is needed. [QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]That way, not only will it be a [B][I]fair[/I][/B] debate, but it will also be [B]very obvious[/B] as to who wins[/QUOTE] It's already obvious to (almost) everyone but you. [QUOTE=Don Blazys;256798]Please go to posts number 59, 60 and 61 and tell me who [B][I]you[/I][/B] think won that exchange![/QUOTE] In post #59-#61, sm88 won the exchange. That should be kind of embarrassing for you -- he has no training in higher mathematics beside what he's picked up here. [COLOR="Red"]'Proof' refuted.[/COLOR] In #62-#65, axn won by a reduction to [TEX]\bot.[/TEX] [COLOR="Red"]'Proof' refuted.[/COLOR] In #67, #74, you won the exchange with sm88. Your 'proof' was not refuted in this exchange. In #80, #83, you fail to argue your point. axn's argument indeed refutes your proof, but I can't really call it an argument. #81 was not responded to, so again you ceded the argument, this time to CRGreathouse. His argument also shows that your proof is flawed, but I can't score debating points there either. Going back to post #38, #49, #41, #43, #45, rajula won the exchange. [COLOR="Red"]'Proof' refuted.[/COLOR] In #46-#49, the clear winner is xilman/CRGreathouse/sm88/rajula who show that the essential substitution you use is wrong. [COLOR="Red"]'Proof' refuted.[/COLOR] Now it's hard to split the posts into discrete debates, so one could argue about the numerics. But all that is needed is one disproof, and I see four to six. I didn't search the entire thread, so there may have been another. I've seen others (not essentially the same as these) on other boards, but I'm certainly not going to track all of those down. It may be fun to see how low level I could go before people are unable to find at least one of these mistakes. I have a feeling that the gifted eighth graders that I tutor could find them -- although they might have to work as a group. Surely the students in a high-school freshman Algebra II class could find a flaw working alone. I'm not sure that the slower-track Algebra I class could do the same; maybe I'll ask my teacher friend. |
So, who's winning? :alien:
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[QUOTE=em99010pepe;256863]So, who's winning? :alien:[/QUOTE]
Yes, yes, I know it's silly -- that's not the way mathematics works. But it was amusing for me to go through the conversations to see which worked and which didn't, as well as what arguments were used. |
[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;256882]Yes, yes, I know it's silly -- that's not the way mathematics works. But it was amusing for me to go through the conversations to see which worked and which didn't, as well as what arguments were used.[/QUOTE]
yeah losing to me is a -100 if not more I think. |
[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;256882]Yes, yes, I know it's silly -- that's not the way mathematics works. But it was amusing for me to go through the conversations to see which worked and which didn't, as well as what arguments were used.[/QUOTE]
I think the :alien: should win at least one consolation point... |
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