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Mini-Geek 2014-11-19 01:48

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;388025]We are so stupid.

:gah:

[CODE]_______________× [U][B]is[/B][/U] prime[/CODE]

We have emailed Ernst the request to verify our hints, just to make sure we have not made any other blunders.

We apologize for the error!

:max:[/QUOTE]

Assuming this was the only blunder on either of our parts, I've created a [URL="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B72y7-pdB73beEN0WWRCTmhZUGM/view?usp=sharing"]new list with 691,157 numbers[/URL]. Just a hair fewer numbers than before. I'm guessing the sum of 43 is what accounts for nearly as many ending with 2 as 4, 6, and 8 combined.

lavalamp 2014-11-19 08:57

So it ends in a 2?

Mini-Geek 2014-11-19 13:10

[QUOTE=lavalamp;388036]So it ends in a 2?[/QUOTE]

Yep. This comes from:
[QUOTE=Xyzzy;387751]Let "E" represent an even digit and "O" represent an odd digit:

[CODE]EEEEEOOOEOEEOOOE[/CODE][/QUOTE]
And
[QUOTE=Xyzzy;388025][CODE]_______________× [U][B]is[/B][/U] prime[/CODE][/QUOTE]

Unless you happen to know of any other even one-digit primes.

lavalamp 2014-11-19 13:55

I have some code running to trial factor 4, 6 and 8, but it hasn't come up with anything yet, we'll have to wait and see.

Xyzzy 2014-11-19 22:19

Ernst has verified that our hints thus far have been correct. (Not counting our mistake concerning the primality of 2!)

Our card number is in your new list.

Batalov 2014-11-19 22:23

Now will be the good time to cancel it. Pick up the phone, Mike...

Xyzzy 2014-11-19 22:51

:busted:

:omg:

ewmayer 2014-11-20 07:21

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;388082]Ernst has verified that our hints thus far have been correct.[/QUOTE]

Oh, yeah - sorry, was meaning to post something to that effect but have been up for > 24 hours on an online Xmas shopping binge. (First hour was needed to enumerate from 0 - 999, though we were able to stop before having tried all 1000 combos.)

Jayder 2014-11-20 08:06

Did you really have to cancel the card? If so, couldn't you let us know what that last hint was that gave it away? Or am I missing the joke?

Xyzzy 2014-11-21 04:11

[QUOTE=Jayder;388110]Did you really have to cancel the card?[/QUOTE]Yes, it seemed like the appropriate thing to do. Fortunately our local bank can crank out a new card on the spot so it was only a minor inconvenience.

[QUOTE]If so, couldn't you let us know what that last hint was that gave it away?[/QUOTE]Our last (redacted) hint gave the sum of the first eight digits and the sum of the last eight digits.

:mike:

Mini-Geek 2014-11-21 13:10

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;388138]Yes, it seemed like the appropriate thing to do. Fortunately our local bank can crank out a new card on the spot so it was only a minor inconvenience.

Our last (redacted) hint gave the sum of the first eight digits and the sum of the last eight digits.

:mike:[/QUOTE]
Here's the list of [(first eight sum, last eight sum), number of numbers with that pair]
[CODE][(21, 22), 123397]
[(23, 20), 106386]
[(25, 18), 93698]
[(19, 24), 91696]
[(27, 16), 83643]
[(17, 26), 54237]
[(29, 14), 41257]
[(15, 28), 39737]
[(31, 12), 21628]
[(13, 30), 16524]
[(33, 10), 10288]
[(11, 32), 5433]
[(35, 8), 2263]
[(9, 34), 800]
[(37, 6), 170][/CODE]
Unless I'm mistaken, the worst you could've done by your latest hint was to narrow it to 170 card numbers.

lavalamp 2014-11-22 00:17

So much for the financial incentive!

That must have been an interesting conversation at the bank. "Hi, I need a new card with a new number for ... reasons. Hard to explain or understand reasons."

Mini-Geek 2014-11-22 13:29

[QUOTE=lavalamp;388199]That must have been an interesting conversation at the bank. "Hi, I need a new card with a new number for ... reasons. Hard to explain or understand reasons."[/QUOTE]

"See, I gave out dozens of very precise hints on the Internet to random strangers, which seemed like a good idea at the time, and..."


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