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lycorn 2011-01-04 13:06

Unverified???...
 
I have recently been assigned M23165671 as a DC.
Checking its status prior to start the run, I found the following:

23165671
No factors below2^67
P-1 B1=330000
Unverified LL82DD4F0E7EA7DD__ by "Travis Rayhons"
Unverified LL82DD4F0E7EA7DD__ by "S235444"

Although it is theoretically possible that only the last bytes differ, I don´t really think that was the case...
Anybody has an idea about what could have caused the server to consider the exponent as unverified?
Has this happen before?

S485122 2011-01-04 13:18

A similar shift could be cause. (For instance the save files were copyed to a new computer and account which then finished and submitted the result.)

Jacob

Prime95 2011-01-04 14:25

Identical shift counts. This strongly suggests this is one test by the same user. This was not an uncommon occurrence.

Mr. P-1 2011-01-04 16:19

[QUOTE=Prime95;244553]This was not an uncommon occurrence.[/QUOTE]

That statement suggests that attempted fraud is not an uncommon occurrence.

Mini-Geek 2011-01-04 16:55

[QUOTE=Mr. P-1;244563]That statement suggests that attempted fraud is not an uncommon occurrence.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps it's not always intentional fraud, but sometimes "I'm switching over from my old numbered v4 account to a new v5 account with a name, and I want some of my old credit (though I'm ignorant of the v4 migration tool), so I'll just resubmit my results!", or some mistake due to copying a Prime95 installation from one computer/user to another, or yes it could be attempted fraud.

Mr. P-1 2011-01-04 17:16

[QUOTE=Mini-Geek;244568]Perhaps it's not always intentional fraud, but sometimes "I'm switching over from my old numbered v4 account to a new v5 account with a name, and I want some of my old credit (though I'm ignorant of the v4 migration tool), so I'll just resubmit my results!",[/QUOTE]

That possibility had not occured to me.

[QUOTE]or some mistake due to copying a Prime95 installation from one computer/user to another, or yes it could be attempted fraud.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've done that. And manually submitted results that I wasn't sure had been submitted before. But only to the same account.

Prime95 2011-01-04 21:03

It was also common for users to change from the v4 assigned userid to a more meaningful one. There were also cases where prime95 forgot your userid and a new Sxxxxxx one was assigned.

Old prime95 versions also used to resend results.txt whenever Test/PrimeNet dialog was used.

In any event, there are lots of non-malicious ways this case could have happened. The good news is the shift count saved us from mistakenly calling the exponent successfully double-checked.

lycorn 2011-01-04 23:44

[QUOTE=Prime95;244601] The good news is the shift count saved us from mistakenly calling the exponent successfully double-checked.[/QUOTE]

Yes, definitely!
And I´ll endeavour to provide a valid one in the not-so-distant future :wink:

lycorn 2011-01-11 08:22

Done. And verified!... :smile:


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