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Dubslow 2012-04-09 04:50

Now that I've got aliqueit setup, if there a list of availables/list of those not already at 120-125 digits? Or are they all there?

schickel 2012-04-09 07:33

[QUOTE=Dubslow;295885]Now that I've got aliqueit setup, if there a list of availables/list of those not already at 120-125 digits? Or are they all there?[/QUOTE]At the moment there are ~3000 sequences out of ~9200 that are <115 digits. If you download this [URL="ftp://ftp.frontiernet.net/pub/users/aliquot/AllSeq.zip"]file[/URL], you can sort by length (col 18) to see what might by interesting....basically, look for something that isn't controlled by a driver that is in your size range. You can crosscheck anything that looks good against the reservations at the top of this thread to see what's available. (I haven't corrected the file yet, there are two terminations in there that don't actually exist and several that are <100 digits, but I don't know if they're valid....DB [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=290546&postcount=1367"]problems[/URL].)

Dubslow 2012-04-09 19:49

[QUOTE=schickel;295896]At the moment there are ~3000 sequences out of ~9200 that are <115 digits. If you download this [URL="ftp://ftp.frontiernet.net/pub/users/aliquot/AllSeq.zip"]file[/URL], you can sort by length (col 18) to see what might by interesting....basically, look for something that isn't controlled by a driver that is in your size range. You can crosscheck anything that looks good against the reservations at the top of this thread to see what's available. (I haven't corrected the file yet, there are two terminations in there that don't actually exist and several that are <100 digits, but I don't know if they're valid....DB [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=290546&postcount=1367"]problems[/URL].)[/QUOTE]

How about 75402? Both the file and FDB show it to be at 66 digits (is it problematic? Should I redo the last 3-400 lines?), though it formerly got as high as ~120, and I didn't see it in the first post here.

RobertS 2012-04-09 20:46

[QUOTE=Dubslow;295938]How about 75402? Both the file and FDB show it to be at 66 digits (is it problematic? Should I redo the last 3-400 lines?), though it formerly got as high as ~120, and I didn't see it in the first post here.[/QUOTE]
It seems to be wrong at line 2502 in the FDB or aliqueit.exe

Dubslow 2012-04-09 21:06

[QUOTE=RobertS;295941]It seems to be wrong at line 2502 in the FDB or aliqueit.exe[/QUOTE]

How did you check that? I just ran 2501-2503, and unless PRP->P isn't working or unless it calculates the next line wrong, the factorizations are correct.

RobertS 2012-04-09 21:15

[QUOTE=Dubslow;295944]How did you check that? I just ran 2501-2503, and unless PRP->P isn't working or unless it calculates the next line wrong, the factorizations are correct.[/QUOTE]
aliqueit -t 75402

Dubslow 2012-04-09 21:54

[QUOTE=RobertS;295945]aliqueit -t 75402[/QUOTE]

[strike]Well, someone's taken it another 300 lines forward, now at size 99.[/strike]


Scratch that, FDB's got the wrong factors for line 2501. What it lists as a P18 is in fact composite, and FDB even knows the factors if you click on the number -- but it doesn't show up that way in the sequence. Whoever might be working on it, you're wasting your time.
Edit2: The weird part is that when you refresh the page, sometimes it appears as P18, sometimes as P10*P8, and yet the next line doesn't change. Having aliqueit submit the correct lines (starting at 2500) didn't fix it either. I'll reserve 75402 for now and run it (properly) until Syd fixes it.
Edit3: It's not just the sequence that "flickers", it's the C18 itself.
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=534062867052540827[/url]
Load it and then refresh it a few times.
Edit3: Unfortunately, it appears as though the actual sequence is a good 8+ digits higher than the one in FDB, for the next few hundred lines anyways.

schickel 2012-04-10 09:00

[QUOTE=Dubslow;295950][strike]Well, someone's taken it another 300 lines forward, now at size 99.[/strike]


Scratch that, FDB's got the wrong factors for line 2501. What it lists as a P18 is in fact composite, and FDB even knows the factors if you click on the number -- but it doesn't show up that way in the sequence. Whoever might be working on it, you're wasting your time.
Edit2: The weird part is that when you refresh the page, sometimes it appears as P18, sometimes as P10*P8, and yet the next line doesn't change. Having aliqueit submit the correct lines (starting at 2500) didn't fix it either. I'll reserve 75402 for now and run it (properly) until Syd fixes it.
Edit3: It's not just the sequence that "flickers", it's the C18 itself.
[url]http://factordb.com/index.php?id=534062867052540827[/url]
Load it and then refresh it a few times.
Edit3: Unfortunately, it appears as though the actual sequence is a good 8+ digits higher than the one in FDB, for the next few hundred lines anyways.[/QUOTE]Yeah, actually, it's at 133 digits, with the 2^4 * 31 driver (in case you hadn't seen the real end yet.....)

Dubslow 2012-04-10 10:05

[QUOTE=schickel;296016]Yeah, actually, it's at 133 digits, with the 2^4 * 31 driver (in case you hadn't seen the real end yet.....)[/QUOTE]
No... where can I see that, if the FDB has it wrong? Does this mean I should not be working on it?

RobertS 2012-04-10 10:25

[QUOTE=Dubslow;296020]No... where can I see that, if the FDB has it wrong? Does this mean I should not be working on it?[/QUOTE]
Here the correct end:
[URL="http://www.factordb.com/sequences.php?se=1&aq=389923317713346464092498767474155507418&action=last&fr=0&to=100"]75402:2502[/URL]

schickel 2012-04-10 17:43

[QUOTE=Dubslow;296020]No... where can I see that, if the FDB has it wrong? Does this mean I should not be working on it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RobertS;296021]Here the correct end:
[URL="http://www.factordb.com/sequences.php?se=1&aq=389923317713346464092498767474155507418&action=last&fr=0&to=100"]75402:2502[/URL][/QUOTE]Sorry, I forgot to tell you how to do that.....caluculate past the line where the error is, then query the DB using a number from that point as the start of a sequence and you get the correct tail of the sequence but with an incorrect line number.....

As far as working on it, feel free, but realize that: a) it's under driver control, and b) it's considerably bigger than you thought.


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