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NBtarheel_33 2010-12-18 03:59

[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;241785]You might want to consider the reason why noone else had done it before...[/QUOTE]

I thought "no one" was always two words...

cmd 2010-12-18 08:34

why
 
[QUOTE=NBtarheel_33;242401]I thought "no one" was always two words...[/QUOTE]

why

all attacked, you write "separate"
separate, you write "all attacked"

CRGreathouse 2010-12-18 14:53

[QUOTE=NBtarheel_33;242401]I thought "no one" was always two words...[/QUOTE]

Linguistically, it's one word. It's not surprising to me that conventions increasingly support this spelling (though it's still nonstandard at the moment).

davar55 2010-12-18 19:25

A certain person in this forum posted the following line earlier
in this thread:

[quote]You might want to consider the reason why no one else had done it before...
[/quote]in response to another posters explanation of his motivations.

We are GIMPS supporters, not RDSers.

P95 is a great program, but math rules.

cmd 2010-12-20 03:33

Always be skeptical to any news

davar55 2010-12-27 20:02

For more info on why semi-primes are relevant to our search
for Mersennes, see the thread Mersenne-Like in the Puzzles subforum.

Link is: [URL="http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=11418"]Mersenne-Like[/URL]

The list there could be extended.

ATH 2011-01-06 19:13

I trialfactored the last 15 exponent with no factors a bit further but with no luck. I'm stopping for now:


[CODE]
p Factor(s) of M(p[sup]2[/sup])/M(p)
--------------------------------------------------
2281 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]71[/sup] (k<226*10[sup]12[/sup])
4423 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]73[/sup] (k<241*10[sup]12[/sup])
9941 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]75[/sup] (k<191*10[sup]12[/sup])
11213 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]76[/sup] (k<300*10[sup]12[/sup])
19937 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]77[/sup] (k<190*10[sup]12[/sup])
44497 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]80[/sup] (k<305*10[sup]12[/sup])
86243 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]73.7[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
132049 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]75.0[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
216091 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]76.4[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
1257787 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]81.5[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
2976221 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]84.0[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
6972593 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]86.4[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
13466917 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]88.3[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
30402457 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]90.7[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
43112609 No factor 2*k*p[sup]2[/sup]+1 < 2[sup]91.7[/sup] (k<1.1*10[sup]12[/sup])
[/CODE]

Mr. P-1 2011-01-07 13:46

Thanks for your efforts.

Brian-E 2014-10-13 12:35

axn's recent discovery from another thread:

[QUOTE=axn;385016]There is something to be said for dumb luck.
[CODE]M3464473/604874508299177 is a probable prime! We4: E866B6FC,00000000
[/CODE]Still need to do some (slow) independent check with PFGW. Ugh!

EDIT:- Anybody know how to make P95 use a different base to do the PRP test?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=alpertron;385025]That's the first Mega-PRP cofactor of a Mersenne number known. Congratulations.[/QUOTE]

Presumably this makes M3464473 the largest known "probable Mersenne semiprime" too, if that is the correct expression?

On a general point, can anyone say what is currently conjectured about the frequency of occurrence of Mersenne semiprimes? Would we expect them to occur with similar order of frequency to that of Mersenne primes? I note RDS' statement in post #2 of this thread that Mersenne semiprimes with exponent the square of the exponent of a Mersenne Prime would be expected to be finite in number, but what about those Mersenne semiprimes with prime exponent?

R.D. Silverman 2014-10-13 14:42

[QUOTE=Brian-E;385074]
On a general point, can anyone say what is currently conjectured about the frequency of occurrence of Mersenne semiprimes? Would we expect them to occur with similar order of frequency to that of Mersenne primes?
[/QUOTE]

No. A full explanation may be found in Hardy & Wright. We expect them
to occur with the same frequency (up to a small constant necessitated by the form of the numbers) as all other integers with exactly two prime factors.
[QUOTE]

but what about those Mersenne semiprimes with prime exponent?[/QUOTE]

What about them? See Hardy & Wright. Do you expect numbers with exactly two prime factors to be fewer than primes?

alpertron 2014-10-13 15:00

[QUOTE=Brian-E;385074]
Presumably this makes M3464473 the largest known "probable Mersenne semiprime" too, if that is the correct expression?[/QUOTE]
You can find at [url]http://www.mersenne.ca/prp.php[/url] the current list of "probably completely factored Mersenne numbers".


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