[QUOTE=Flatlander;237839]20) On that same web page, is it [U]in[/U] the section entitled "Hide & Hair"?[/QUOTE][B][COLOR="Red"]No[/COLOR][/B]

21) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"?

[QUOTE=Mini-Geek;237846]21) On that same web page, is it [U]in[/U] the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Uncwilly;237842][B][COLOR="Red"]No[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]

Summary:
1) is it a chordate ? [B]Yes.[/B]
2) is it man made ? [B]Yes.[/B]
3) does it being made involve a mammal (not man) ? [B]Yes.[/B]
4) is it made from a placental mammal ? [b]Yes[/B]
5)Is it made from a carnivore ? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
6) Is it usually made from either a cow or sheep? [B]Yes.[/B]
7) Is it intended to be eaten? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
8) Is/are the animal(s) killed during the process of making this object? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
9) Is it typically carried around or worn as clothing by humans? [COLOR="Red"][B]No.[/B][/COLOR]
10) Is it made from something that would naturally be excreted as waste from the animal? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
11) Is it used to produce sound when blow? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
12) Is it usually made from cows? [B]Yes.[/B]
13) Is it a medical product? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
14) [regarding "there is one question (beside the first) that was poorly asked. The answer given was to the question asked, not to what the asker meant."] Are you referring to ((question 7) OR (question 10) OR (question 11) OR (question 13))? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
15) Is it made, at least partly, from cows' bones and/or internal organs? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
16) Is it directly derived from an animal [as opposed to something that is the output of further processing after extracting something from said animal]? eg:- milk vs cheese. milk = directly derived. cheese = further processed. [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? [B]Yes.[/B]
18) Is it solid state and structurally rigid? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
19) Is it (a part of a cow) OR (a cow derived product) mentioned on [URL="http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/01272/id39.htm"]this[/URL] page? [B]Yes.[/B]
20) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Hide & Hair"? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
21) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]

So it's definitely narrowed to something on [URL="http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/01272/id39.htm"]this page[/URL] that's not in the Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin, or Hide & Hair categories. I think leather might be the answer. Question 8 says "killed [B]during[/B] the process of making this object", and arguably the animals are killed well before the process of making leather begins (question 8 was not eliminated by question 14, so it's possible he gave the hint regarding that question). And as already mentioned, question 9 might exclude shoes. Some leather products are mentioned in the Hide & Hair category, but not leather as a generality.

[QUOTE=Mini-Geek;237850]Summary:
1) is it a chordate ? [B]Yes.[/B]
2) is it man made ? [B]Yes.[/B]
3) does it being made involve a mammal (not man) ? [B]Yes.[/B]
4) is it made from a placental mammal ? [b]Yes[/B]
5)Is it made from a carnivore ? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
6) Is it usually made from either a cow or sheep? [B]Yes.[/B]
7) Is it intended to be eaten? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
8) Is/are the animal(s) killed during the process of making this object? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
9) Is it typically carried around or worn as clothing by humans? [COLOR="Red"][B]No.[/B][/COLOR]
10) Is it made from something that would naturally be excreted as waste from the animal? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
11) Is it used to produce sound when blow? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
12) Is it usually made from cows? [B]Yes.[/B]
13) Is it a medical product? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
14) [regarding "there is one question (beside the first) that was poorly asked. The answer given was to the question asked, not to what the asker meant."] Are you referring to ((question 7) OR (question 10) OR (question 11) OR (question 13))? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
15) Is it made, at least partly, from cows' bones and/or internal organs? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
16) Is it directly derived from an animal [as opposed to something that is the output of further processing after extracting something from said animal]? eg:- milk vs cheese. milk = directly derived. cheese = further processed. [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? [B]Yes.[/B]
18) Is it solid state and structurally rigid? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
19) Is it (a part of a cow) OR (a cow derived product) mentioned on [URL="http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/01272/id39.htm"]this[/URL] page? [B]Yes.[/B]
20) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Hide & Hair"? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]
21) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"? [B][COLOR="Red"]No.[/COLOR][/B]

So it's definitely narrowed to something on [URL="http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/01272/id39.htm"]this page[/URL] that's not in the Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin, or Hide & Hair categories. I think leather might be the answer. Question 8 says "killed [B]during[/B] the process of making this object", and arguably the animals are killed well before the process of making leather begins (question 8 was not eliminated by question 14, so it's possible he gave the hint regarding that question). And as already mentioned, question 9 might exclude shoes. Some leather products are mentioned in the Hide & Hair category, but not leather as a generality.[/QUOTE]

Shampoo, soaps, shaving creams, cosmetics, deodorants, candles, crayons, floor wax, detergents, hydraulic break fluid, plastics, insecticides, paints, perfumes, and synthetic rubber. what's eliminated in this ?

[QUOTE=science_man_88;237851]Shampoo, soaps, shaving creams, cosmetics, deodorants, candles, crayons, floor wax, detergents, hydraulic break fluid, plastics, insecticides, paints, perfumes, and synthetic rubber. what's eliminated in this ?[/QUOTE]

Nothing is [I]too[/I] certain, but remember "17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? Yes." That would seem to most likely eliminate everything from that category. I just think that leather, or some leather product, is a very likely candidate.

[QUOTE=Mini-Geek;237853]Nothing is [I]too[/I] certain, but remember "17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? Yes." That would seem to most likely eliminate everything from that category. I just think that leather, or some leather product, is a very likely candidate.[/QUOTE]

well from what I read that leaves meat and dairy, which are already eliminated.

[QUOTE=science_man_88;237861]well from what I read that leaves meat and dairy, which are already eliminated.[/QUOTE]

Hence:
[QUOTE=Mini-Geek;237850]I think [B]leather[/B] might be the answer. Question 8 says "killed [U]during[/U] the process of making this object", and arguably the animals are killed well before the process of making leather begins (question 8 was not eliminated by question 14, so it's possible he gave the hint regarding that question). And as already mentioned, question 9 might exclude shoes. Some leather products are mentioned in the Hide & Hair category, but not leather as a generality.[/QUOTE]

Is there a question in all of this?

[QUOTE=Uncwilly;237871]Is there a question in all of this?[/QUOTE]

Nope, I don't think so. I'm waiting for my timeout period, otherwise I'd be asking about if leather is the right track. :smile:

Okay, let's get this out of the way:

22) On that same web page, is it outside (i.e., not in) the section entitled "Fats and Fatty Acids"?

If answer to #22 is Yes, then followup is:

23) Is it made at least partly of leather?

Whether answer to #23 is Yes or No, then I yield to someone else.