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bsquared 2012-10-18 15:14

[QUOTE=chappy;314930]Æsir you can believe in![/QUOTE]

This is now hanging on my office door.

Xyzzy 2012-10-18 15:51

[QUOTE]Are Democrats really making this an issue? Are they really trying to find fault with Romney for this? Is this what our politics has come to?[/QUOTE]Here is an editorial with some interesting points: [url]http://news.yahoo.com/romney-and-the-“binder”-blunder-45646812684.html[/url]

Zeta-Flux 2012-10-18 17:03

I didn't find that article interesting. I found it partisan and, frankly, stupid. Are these people serious? I guess so...

AES 2012-10-19 02:36

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyUKnCf0YY[/url]

ewmayer 2012-10-19 19:22

[QUOTE=Zeta-Flux;315092]I didn't find that article interesting. I found it partisan and, frankly, stupid. Are these people serious? I guess so...[/QUOTE]

Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions. If you want to see a serious strike against Romney, see my link to the David Stockman [i]Newsweek[/i] piece in the Econ thread.

chalsall 2012-10-19 20:03

[QUOTE=ewmayer;315231]Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions. If you want to see a serious strike against Romney, see my link to the David Stockman [i]Newsweek[/i] piece in the Econ thread.[/QUOTE]

"Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions."

But you accept it.

That's why they get away with it.

AES 2012-10-19 20:07

[QUOTE=ewmayer;315231]Our electoral politics has devolved into a neverending series of bipartisan-avoiding-taking-on-the-really-important-issues-because-they-are-hard, which means replacement by these kinds of idiotic (but sound-bitey) distractions. If you want to see a serious strike against Romney, see my link to the David Stockman [I]Newsweek[/I] piece in the Econ thread.[/QUOTE]


Given the "money printing and Wall Street coddling by the Fed" what more can be expected of private businessmen beyond "financial speculator"?

Is this an ethics question?

chalsall 2012-10-19 20:12

[QUOTE=AES;315240]Is this an ethics question?[/QUOTE]

Sure.

Is this an ethics question?

AES 2012-10-19 20:28

[QUOTE=chalsall;315243]Sure.

Is this an ethics question?[/QUOTE]

Yes. If his net worth was a fraction of what it is, would he be considered a better person or businessman?

ewmayer 2012-10-19 21:06

[QUOTE=AES;315240]Given the "money printing and Wall Street coddling by the Fed" what more can be expected of private businessmen beyond "financial speculator"?[/QUOTE]

Romney main self-proclaimed experience of relevance to the economic situation is as a "founder of a business and jobs creator". With respect to the way he is spinning it, that is a very different thing than "financial speculator", "serial corporate-asset-stripping-and-carcass-flipping con artist" and "net destroyer of jobs and economic productive value."

Again, it's not about "expecting more" (although one should in a president) so much as "distortions of own record so severe as to amount to outright falsehoods".

Not that Obama has any more creditable experience in terms of economic turnaround - his "economic plan" continues to consist of "deficit-spend to kingdom come, and hope the patient recovers on his own", but he's not claiming to be some kind of economic-heroic "value-adding entrepreneur", like Mitt the parasite is.

OTOH Obama is claiming credit for "the economic recovery" - but I've called that out as the flagrant BS it is on many occasions.

AES 2012-10-19 21:19

[QUOTE=ewmayer;315254]Romney main self-proclaimed experience of relevance to the economic situation is as a "founder of a business and jobs creator". With respect to the way he is spinning it, that is a very different thing than "financial speculator", "serial corporate-asset-stripping-and-carcass-flipping con artist" and "net destroyer of jobs and economic productive value."

Again, it's not about "expecting more" (although one should in a president) so much as "distortions of own record so severe as to amount to outright falsehoods".

Not that Obama has any more creditable experience in terms of economic turnaround - his "economic plan" continues to consist of "deficit-spend to kingdom come, and hope the patient recovers on his own", but he's not claiming to be some kind of economic-heroic "value-adding entrepreneur", like Mitt the parasite is.

OTOH Obama is claiming credit for "the economic recovery" - but I've called that out as the flagrant BS it is on many occasions.[/QUOTE]

I can't honestly argue with those points. However, it would be encouraging to see another real budget passed someday…


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