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Ding ding ding! kar_bon wins the prize. In this case I calculated it as N=(2^109+1)/3/104124649 and checked it with a quick GP script that finds the appropriate residue classes mod 8p. The running time was about 10 minutes on a slow computer.
My current project, 7984559573504259856359124657, is similar. |
[QUOTE=kar_bon;228898]And that's why this type is ridiculous![/QUOTE]
Indeed, demonstrating this was my purpose. [QUOTE=kar_bon;228898]You can't spot a number 'general' or random or special![/QUOTE] Honestly, even aside from what Pi calls "trickery" (and I call "using math"), I'd love to see a good definition of general here that works, um, in general. |
[QUOTE=CRGreathouse;228899]My current project, 7984559573504259856359124657, is similar.[/QUOTE]
Cofactor of 2^149+1. |
[QUOTE=kar_bon]So it has a special form (cofactor of a Mersenne number for example!) and you are not able to notice this, so you have to specify your 'general number' type!
[/QUOTE] Nope. General cofactor is general cofactor. Arguably, if you tried this trick, every prime would be a special-form number. Next! |
[QUOTE=3.14159;228903]Nope. General cofactor is general cofactor.
Arguably, if you tried this trick, every prime would be a special-form number. Next![/QUOTE] No! CRG gave the test he done to determine and it was not pure trial devision (test all primes from 3 to sqrt(N))! And this prime has a special form, too! If you declare this as 'general' why excluding Mersennes then? |
[QUOTE=3.14159;228903]Nope. General cofactor is general cofactor.
Arguably, if you tried this trick, every prime would be a special-form number. Next![/QUOTE] are you saying we have to give you numbers of the general form of the ones on the list ? = general number ? I'm too confused to use logic anymore. |
There's no way either of my numbers should count, in this context, as general numbers. The first one is 16 times easier to test than numbers of a comparable size; the second one is 19 times easier.
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[QUOTE=CRGreathouse]There's no way either of my numbers should count, in this context, as general numbers. The first one is 16 times easier to test than numbers of a comparable size; the second one is 19 times easier.
[/QUOTE] Here is an example of a general prime number: 835287624561584641455555490282511. Here are 15 more examples: 348487007766634158834636277 46560109657576346735092487 277045504717467997710674401 216353885495012554061838517 632417547715984582289542201 624143746064634996383204353 90337507053320000006494187 54641588316034625817275383 157930264101508085911914083 737009482404243882804250081 601816399408713215418216769 833980612206480789317355653 167460761731424310078485189 547615446859522251920656277 820438575567154351773751057 |
[QUOTE=3.14159;228907]Here is an example of a general prime number:
835287624561584641455555490282511.[/QUOTE] Thanks, but that doesn't tell me anything useful. There are 9 * 10[SUP]32[/SUP] 33-digit numbers, and most of them aren't 835287624561584641455555490282511. |
[QUOTE=3.14159;228885]Retract the subcategories [B]entirely[/B].[/QUOTE]
sm can make his own categories and run his own competition, even if some of his categories are proper subcategories of yours. |
See [URL="http://factordb.com/search.php?query=835287624561584641455555490282511"]here[/URL]. There is nothing special about 835287624561584641455555490282511.
[QUOTE=Charles]sm can make his own categories and run his own competition, even if some of his categories are proper subcategories of yours. [/QUOTE] I never said he could not. Just don't base it on mine. End of story. As I was saying: The only property I would consider "special" of 835287624561584641455555490282511 is that 835287624561584641455555490282510! + 1 is divisible by 835287624561584641455555490282511. |
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