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By decent-sized: The usual 1k-digit minimum, please. (750 for General Cofactor, and 1250 for Special Cofactor.)
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[QUOTE=science_man_88]yeah well if i was stupid I'd post 2^43112608*2^1+1 but you know this one already lol.
[/QUOTE] Mersenne numbers belong in General Cofactor, if you can prove that it is the cofactor of a number of the forms listed, [B]following the new rules[/B] (Bold = My emphasis.) Also: For verification: Post the factoring session data for General/Special cofactor. |
Also: If there have been distributed searches on k-b-b, can anyone point me to one, and what ranges were being searched? (This is to ensure I am not searching for what has already been searched for, like when I was searching for Generalized Fermats. Because they are already searched for up to 131072, up to 3 million, there is no point searching for them.)
I'm going to check to see the search ranges for Prime Sierpinski, since they search for items 2 or 5 (Base 5 Sierpinski project, if I remember correctly.) |
The k * 4549[sup]4549[/sup] range I am testing is rather barren.
k = 180k to 360k. Nothing so far up to 270k. Update: Nevermind: 265134 * 4549[sup]4549[/sup] + 1 is a PRP. Off to prove it prime. (Does Proth's theorem also apply to Generalized Proth numbers? Answered my own question: Not to odd-number bases) [code]Start: For n=4549 to 4549, For k=265134 to 265134 step 2, k*4549^n+1. 265134*4549^4549 + 1 may be prime. (a = 2) 265134*4549^4549 + 1 is prime! (verification : a = 3) [16646 digits][/code] |
[QUOTE=3.14159;227427]Factorwork must be done and the user cannot know one or more of the factors beforehand. The smallest factor can be no smaller than 7 digits.[/QUOTE]
How can you verify this? Factoring data can presumably be reconstructed if you know the factors. |
[QUOTE=3.14159;227438]I already fixed your whining complaints.[/QUOTE]
I'd have to check, but I'd guess you fixed less than 25% of them. Of course this is not your fault -- I was intentionally not explicit about most of them. I don't care to be: my purpose is not to tell you what to do but to cause you to think more deeply. [QUOTE=3.14159;227438]And, why would I be annoyed? All decent-sized primes of those 20 types are welcomed.[/QUOTE] Only for the same reason you seemed to not like #969. |
[QUOTE=3.14159;227442]Mersenne numbers belong in General Cofactor, if you can prove that it is the cofactor of a number of the forms listed, [B]following the new rules[/B] (Bold = My emphasis.)
Also: For verification: Post the factoring session data for General/Special cofactor.[/QUOTE] yeah I accidentally put +1 doh anyways if you keep changing the rules who cares not me. |
[QUOTE=CRGreathouse]How can you verify this? Factoring data can presumably be reconstructed if you know the factors.
[/QUOTE] You would have to go a long way to fake factor data. Meh, screw it. Too many people would take the time to fake everything. To make sure it can't be faked: Smallest factor must at least be 65 digits and unknown to the user. Yes, I'm sure someone would withhold it for 7-10 days and post it with fake data afterwards. Makes perfect sense. Even better: Get rid of cofactor and replace it with complete factorization of a number of those forms. |
[QUOTE=3.14159;227449]You would have to go a long way to fake factor data.[/QUOTE]
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps I already have a program that fakes factor data. Here's a Pari program that fakes trial division data [code]fake(p,q)={ };[/code] That was easy. Faking rho data also seems doable. NFS seems hard to fake, I'll admit, but just because I don't know of a way doesn't mean it's impossible. But my point, like my point about your obsolete category, is that this suggests that the category itself is a bad idea, not that this small group of people would be likely to deceive each other. |
Update: List is back down to 19 items. Restrictions still apply to the other items. I have gotten rid of cofactor and replaced it with completely factoring a number of the forms listed there. The smallest the number can be is 90 digits.
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[QUOTE=3.14159;227449]To make sure it can't be faked: Smallest factor must at least be 65 digits and unknown to the user.[/QUOTE]
How can you verify that it was unknown to the user? [QUOTE=3.14159;227449]Even better: Get rid of cofactor and replace it with complete factorization of a number of those forms.[/QUOTE] That's fine -- but I still think we need a good way to judge the (prior) difficulty of finding a factorization. |
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