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rogue 2010-04-16 12:58

I have a hacked (cough) version of srfile which can take a file argument with -d. This allows one to use the following command:

srfile -w sr_63.pfgw -d pfgw.log

to remove all k with found primes with one call to srfile. Since sr_63.pfgw can be very large (depending upon the number of k you have in it), this saves a lot of I/O (and time) if you alternate between PRP testing and sieving.

If interested, PM me and I can send you the code changes or a Windows exe. I'll send my changes to Geoff. Hopefully he will incorporate them in his next release.

Mathew 2010-04-24 04:31

Lennart can't have all the fun
 
I would like to reserve group 1

gd_barnes 2010-04-26 10:16

In a manner similar to the way I double checked Riesel base 3 for n<=25K when KEP reserved a large range for n=25K-100K, I have double checked all k's remaining on S63 for k<14M for n<=1K so far. Just like R3 for the k=500M-820M range, I found 2 problems. They are:

Both k=9632032 and 12224450 still remain.

I attempted to quickly resolve the situation by searching them to n=5K without sieving. One went down:

9632032*63^1612+1 is prime

So fortunately k=9632032 (the group that would have contained it is reserved by Lennart) is now not a problem but k=12224450 will need to be added to the appropriate group here or done separately. Mark, it's up to you how it gets addressed. Fortunately it has not been reserved yet.

Kenneth, can you check your primes list for both of these two k's and see what you have for them? I'm wondering why you did not have them remaining. Neither are MOB so that confusion (since your search was done before the current starting bases script was done) is not a possibility. Based on finding these 2 problems, I suspect there will be more. Therefore I will slowly continue my double check and attempt to stay ahead of the reservations.

All-in-all, this really isn't bad at all. On both R3 and S63, I had expected to find many more problems than I did because the ranges that I double checked were done before we had the automated starting bases script. It was not easy at all on these huge-conjectured new bases to get everything right before we finally got the starting bases script set up mostly correctly.

On another note, I went ahead and gave this thread the visibility it deserves and stickied it. Can anyone say 2 pages of stickies? :-)

Anyone wondering why admining this stuff takes a little time? :smile:


Gary

KEP 2010-04-26 15:57

[QUOTE=gd_barnes;213195]Kenneth, can you check your primes list for both of these two k's and see what you have for them? I'm wondering why you did not have them remaining. Neither are MOB so that confusion (since your search was done before the current starting bases script was done) is not a possibility. Based on finding these 2 problems, I suspect there will be more. Therefore I will slowly continue my double check and attempt to stay ahead of the reservations.[/QUOTE]

That is unfortunantly not possible, since I have no primes for S63 remaining in my system anymore. But I remember that when I started it up, I used the script Henryzz had written to start up base 3. I used the excel spreadsheet to remove the k's remaining with trivial factors, and since that method has previously caused problems, these 2 k's might have been missed because of a miscalculation in excel. But if I had the primes still, I of course wouldn't have minded taking a look at these 2 k's you have found. You think you can find 4 more before the end of your doublecheck :wink:? :smile:

Kenneth

KEP 2010-04-26 17:40

It just crossed my mind, that I actually had you download the n=1-1000 primelist for S63, from my adrive account. Maybe you can retrieve the list and see if there is in fact primes for the 2 k's mentioned. Or did you never reach to download it (though I recall it as you did)?

Kenneth

gd_barnes 2010-04-26 23:34

[quote=KEP;213237]It just crossed my mind, that I actually had you download the n=1-1000 primelist for S63, from my adrive account. Maybe you can retrieve the list and see if there is in fact primes for the 2 k's mentioned. Or did you never reach to download it (though I recall it as you did)?

Kenneth[/quote]

No, I was having too much problem downloading it. It was just taking too long to download.

That was another reason that I'm doing the doublecheck...so that I could have a comprehensive list of all of the S63 primes. It's what I eventually do on all of the large-conjectured bases since it would be unreasonable and ineffective to have people forward me millions of very small primes.

There's no telling how many more problems that I will find. It could be none or it could be 10 or more or it could be 4. I was pretty impressed by the time I got to k=9M with no problems. I was beginning to think there was going to be none.

Mark, be sure and add k=12224450 to the appropriate group here if that is how you choose to. I suppose someone could just search it from n=5K-10K. We would then just have to remember that it is remaining even though it's not in the k's that we're searching with this drive.

rogue 2010-04-27 03:17

[QUOTE=gd_barnes;213275]No, I was having too much problem downloading it. It was just taking too long to download.

That was another reason that I'm doing the doublecheck...so that I could have a comprehensive list of all of the S63 primes. It's what I eventually do on all of the large-conjectured bases since it would be unreasonable and ineffective to have people forward me millions of very small primes.

There's no telling how many more problems that I will find. It could be none or it could be 10 or more or it could be 4. I was pretty impressed by the time I got to k=9M with no problems. I was beginning to think there was going to be none.

Mark, be sure and add k=12224450 to the appropriate group here if that is how you choose to. I suppose someone could just search it from n=5K-10K. We would then just have to remember that it is remaining even though it's not in the k's that we're searching with this drive.[/QUOTE]

I will wait until you have completed your check and I will decide what to do at that time.

Mathew 2010-04-27 03:19

Primality testing 12224450*63^6893+1 [N-1, Brillhart-Lehmer-Selfridge]
Running N-1 test using base 3
Calling Brillhart-Lehmer-Selfridge with factored part 53.00%
12224450*63^6893+1 is prime! (34.7063s+0.0082s)

Sure right after rogue's post

gd_barnes 2010-04-28 08:22

Good one Mathew. It figures that the prime would be just a little bit larger than the n-limit that I chose to search to. :smile:

When I update the pages for S63, I'll show just the 2 primes on the k's remaining that were missed since I'll keep the # of k's remaining the same.

gd_barnes 2010-04-28 08:27

[quote=rogue;213292]I will wait until you have completed your check and I will decide what to do at that time.[/quote]

It could be 3-4 weeks before I'm done. I only have it running k=1M at a time on and off on my slow dual-core 1.6 Ghz laptop that I have with me on business trips. Based on that, I think I may put a single speedy I7 core on it. Even though it would only be one core, since it's running nearly 2X faster and I'll just set it to run non-stop, it should complete sooner; perhaps 2-3 weeks. I'll get that started after I get home...probably early Fri. morning.


Gary

rogue 2010-04-28 12:33

[QUOTE=gd_barnes;213423]It could be 3-4 weeks before I'm done. I only have it running k=1M at a time on and off on my slow dual-core 1.6 Ghz laptop that I have with me on business trips. Based on that, I think I may put a single speedy I7 core on it. Even though it would only be one core, since it's running nearly 2X faster and I'll just set it to run non-stop, it should complete sooner; perhaps 2-3 weeks. I'll get that started after I get home...probably early Fri. morning.[/QUOTE]

I'm in no hurry.


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