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schickel 2010-04-12 06:07

What do you suppose they'll want to call it?
 
Interesting [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/opinion/12mon4.html"]report[/URL]:[quote]Left to nature, the element temporarily called “ununseptium” for its place on the periodic table of the elements — Latin, roughly, for “117-ness” — would never have materialized. But then along came a team of scientists working at the Dubna cyclotron, north of Moscow. According to a paper recently accepted for publication by the journal Physical Review Letters, they have been able to create six atoms of ununseptium by colliding isotopes of calcium (20 on the periodic table) and berkelium (97), which exists only in minute quantities.

Add the protons, which is what gives elements their atomic number, and you get 117, never mind how hard it is to do the addition in real life.


...[/quote]6 atoms? Darn, not even enough for a nice pair of earrings....

Batalov 2010-04-12 06:23

[quote=markKnopfler][COLOR=#444433]Got his <<six atoms>> on my desk in there[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]Made into a souvenir[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]Set of cufflinks, nice pair[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]The rest of him's [/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]Someplace up here[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]Sometimes you got to [/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]Put a shoulder to the door[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]Not so fast, junior[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#444433]Listen to your pa[/COLOR][/quote]
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davar55 2010-04-17 15:05

Shouldn't "ununseptium" be called "ununseptine", if it in fact
turns out to be in the halogen (fluorine, chlorine, etc.) column
in the periodic table, as expected? Perhaps there's a famous
scientist whose name already ends in -ine. Or how about naming
it after a scientifically relevant place, like Grenada?
Grenadine sounds good to me.

:smile:

xilman 2010-04-18 07:44

[quote=davar55;212162]Shouldn't "ununseptium" be called "ununseptine", if it in fact
turns out to be in the halogen (fluorine, chlorine, etc.) column
in the periodic table, as expected? Perhaps there's a famous
scientist whose name already ends in -ine. Or how about naming
it after a scientifically relevant place, like Grenada?
Grenadine sounds good to me.

:smile:[/quote]I agree. The -ium suffix denotes a metal. That's why we should rename He and insist on the British spelling for Al.

To be serious: no it should not be called ununseptine, regardless of its chemistry. The rules are clear, simple, unambiguous and have been followed.

Paul

xilman 2010-04-18 07:45

[quote=davar55;212162]Perhaps there's a famous
scientist whose name already ends in -ine.
:smile:[/quote]Rankine

retina 2010-04-18 08:52

[QUOTE=xilman;212257]I agree. The -ium suffix denotes a metal. That's why we should rename He and insist on the British spelling for Al.[/QUOTE]He = Helon?

Al = Aluminium. Definitely agree here.

C = Carbogen?

Se = Selenogen?

davieddy 2010-04-18 10:36

[quote=xilman;212258]Rankine[/quote]
Kline
Offine
Einstine

OK Anglicizing ein doesn't count


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