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Definitions of the last post:
given a, some x,y and z, p,q prime numbers. __________ So for N a product of k distinct odd primes we have k^2 solutions for: x^2=a(mod N) For a given "a", x some integers. |
[QUOTE=blob100;215619]Definitions of the last post:
given a, some x,y and z, p,q prime numbers. __________ So for N a product of k distinct odd primes we have k^2 solutions for: x^2=a(mod N) For a given "a", x some integers.[/QUOTE] Where do you get k^2?? You seem to be simply guessing. k^2 is not correct. You also need to consider what happens when one (or more) of the primes dividing N also divides a. However, you should start with the simpler case of (a,N) = 1 |
[quote=R.D. Silverman;215649]Where do you get k^2?? You seem to be simply guessing.
k^2 is not correct. You also need to consider what happens when one (or more) of the primes dividing N also divides a. However, you should start with the simpler case of (a,N) = 1[/quote] For N=pq: p,q odd distinct prime numbers. We have: x^2=a(mod p) y^2=a(mod q) z^2=a(mod pq) For a given a and x variable. YOU said there are four solutions for z: x1y1 x2y2 x1y2 x2y1 For N=pgq product of 3 distinct odd primes we have: x^2=a(mod p) y^2=a(mod q) z^2=a(mod g) v^2=a(mod pqg) For a given a; x,y,z and v are equivallent defined as before,(where v is stated equivallently as z was defined for N=pq). We have 2^3 solutions for v. ____________________________________ For x^2=a(mod N) Given a and x variable. There are 2^k solutions x modulo N (product of k distinct odd primes). |
[QUOTE=blob100;215692]For N=pq:
p,q odd distinct prime numbers. We have: x^2=a(mod p) y^2=a(mod q) z^2=a(mod pq) For a given a and x variable. YOU said there are four solutions for z: x1y1 x2y2 x1y2 x2y1 For N=pgq product of 3 distinct odd primes we have: x^2=a(mod p) y^2=a(mod q) z^2=a(mod g) v^2=a(mod pqg) For a given a; x,y,z and v are equivallent defined as before,(where v is stated equivallently as z was defined for N=pq). We have 2^3 solutions for v. ____________________________________ For x^2=a(mod N) Given a and x variable. There are 2^k solutions x modulo N (product of k distinct odd primes).[/QUOTE] And if one or more of the primes dividing N also divide a, what happens? |
[quote=R.D. Silverman;215709]And if one or more of the primes dividing N also divide a, what happens?[/quote]
I'm sorry for not writing: (a,N)=1. |
[QUOTE=blob100;215721]I'm sorry for not writing: (a,N)=1.[/QUOTE]
OK. Noone has weighed in on problem 2. Here it is. Let n \in Z+, q is prime. We want 2^2^n + 1 = 0 mod q. Whence 2^2^n = -1 mod q 2^2^(n+1) = 1 mod q. (1) q is 1 mod 8, hence 2 is a quad. res. By Euler's criterion we have 2^(q-1)/2 = 1 mod q. (2) But from Lagranges's theorem, the order of an element divides the maximal order, thus we have from (1) and (2): 2^(n+1) divides (q-1)/2. The 2 in the denominator of the rhs is what gives us: q = k * 2^(n+2) + 1. |
[QUOTE=R.D. Silverman;215709]And if one or more of the primes dividing N also divide a, what happens?[/QUOTE]
Have you looked at this? The answer is quite simple. |
[quote=R.D. Silverman;215930]OK. Noone has weighed in on problem 2. Here it is.
Let n \in Z+, q is prime. We want 2^2^n + 1 = 0 mod q. Whence 2^2^n = -1 mod q 2^2^(n+1) = 1 mod q. (1) q is 1 mod 8, hence 2 is a quad. res. By Euler's criterion we have 2^(q-1)/2 = 1 mod q. (2) But from Lagranges's theorem, the order of an element divides the maximal order, thus we have from (1) and (2): 2^(n+1) divides (q-1)/2. The 2 in the denominator of the rhs is what gives us: q = k * 2^(n+2) + 1.[/quote] I'm so stupid... |
[quote=R.D. Silverman;215931]Have you looked at this? The answer is quite simple.[/quote]
Again, I'm sorry for not writing (a,N)=1. |
[QUOTE=blob100;215937]Again, I'm sorry for not writing (a,N)=1.[/QUOTE]
No need to apologize. But you need to address what happens when (a,N) > 1. |
[quote=R.D. Silverman;215944]No need to apologize. But you need to address what happens when
(a,N) > 1.[/quote] If we have (a,N)=g>1, Where x^2=a(mod N) (for x,N defined on the last post). (x,a)=g. We said that N is a product of K distinct odd primes. g is devided by k<\=K primes which devide N. For example: We give N=3*5*7. K=3. k<\=3. We may say that for g devided by K primes which devide N, We have (K-k)^2 solutions for x. |
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