[QUOTE=NBtarheel_33;304782]But of course. Everyone knows that the Pope is Catholic and bears shit in the woods.[/QUOTE]Everyone "knows" that, but I've never seen any evidence for the Pope bearing shit in the woods.

[QUOTE=chalsall;304753]I think this is good and impressive news. Who would have thought only ten months ago that we would have accomplished as much as we have? I certainly never imagined it! :smile:
[/QUOTE]OK I've tried subtlety and diplomacy.

Who would have thought that most completed and "in progress"
exponents >53M were inadequately TFed, and that you would persist
with this shortsighted strategy while ignoring/ridiculing/banning me?

You evidently lack imagination.

:furious:

[QUOTE=davieddy;304808]most completed and "in progress"
exponents >53M were inadequately TFed[/QUOTE]

What do you mean? That tests with an LL completed are only TFd to 69? And if so, what else would you do? They've already had a test, our resources are better focused on exponents with no LL.

[QUOTE=Dubslow;304810]What do you mean? That tests with an LL completed are only TFd to 69? And if so, what else would you do? They've already had a test, our resources are better focused on exponents with no LL.[/QUOTE]
Most of them <72,

Why don't you focus on it then?

D

By "focus" I mean 59M to 60M to 73 in one go. (200 per day).
NOT 45M to 70+M one bit at a time.
Creaming off the low-hanging factors merely diminishes the
incentive to do a proper TF job before an exponent is EVER assigned
to a CPU for LL (P-1 if needed).

Forget the spilt milk.

I'm not sure where you get this one-bit idea.

What an expo is taken to in one run is the choice of the user.

If the exponent is NOT TFd fully by the first user, GPU[sup]72[/sup] will KEEP the exponent UNTIL IT IS FULLY TFd. That means 73 bits for expos > 57M.

How does that not fit your requirements?

Perhaps you think ONLY expos > 59M should be made available? If so, you've yet in a year of complaining to explain satisfactorily why those are more important than 50M expos. IMO (and most others' O, except yours) the lower the exponent, the more important it is.

[quote]Creaming off the low-hanging factors merely diminishes the
incentive to do a proper TF job before an exponent is EVER assigned
to a CPU for LL (P-1 if needed).[/quote] This is gibberish.



PS The reason you've been banned over this is because, in this area, you have consistently shown a lack of ability to do any sort of logical reasoning or understand what people say to you.

PPS Of the 7,740 expos currently [URL="http://gpu72.com/reports/available/"]assigned[/URL] for TF, 7110, or 91.9% of the total, are above 58M. (Edit: If you count all expos being taken to 73 bits, then that's 7241 out of 7740, or 93.6%.)

[QUOTE=Dubslow;304816]
If the exponent is NOT TFd fully by the first user, GPU[sup]72[/sup] will KEEP the exponent UNTIL IT IS FULLY TFd. That means 73 bits for expos > 57M.
[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure this is true. I requested and received my recently TF'd to 72 58M exponent from primenet as a first-time LL. I'll release it and see if GPU72 picks it back up for further TF.

[QUOTE=sdbardwick;304819]I'm not sure this is true. I requested and received my recently TF'd to 72 58M exponent from primenet as a first-time LL. I'll release it and see if GPU72 picks it back up for further TF.[/QUOTE]As practised by me, and recommended by George, simply ask a friend with a GPU to do a few more bits.
He/she might be even more keen had it only been TFed to 69,
thereby proving my (and Chalsall's?) point about stealing the
low-hanging fruit.

D

[QUOTE=sdbardwick;304819]I'm not sure this is true. I requested and received my recently TF'd to 72 58M exponent from primenet as a first-time LL. I'll release it and see if GPU72 picks it back up for further TF.[/QUOTE]

Don't release it manually. GPU 2 72 can only pick up exponents that are expired at midnight by PrimeNet's old assignment cleanup program (AFAIK).

Edit: Look through the expo's history. It's possible it was TFd to 72 via PrimeNet alone, and that GPU to 72 never had it. As for the 73, that's what GPU272 does currently, as stated in the link I posted.

[QUOTE=Dubslow;304821]
Edit: Look through the expo's history. It's possible it was TFd to 72 via PrimeNet alone, and that GPU to 72 never had it. As for the 73, that's what GPU272 does currently, as stated in the link I posted.[/QUOTE]No, it came from GPU272.
[quote]If the exponent is NOT TFd fully by the first user, GPU72 will KEEP the exponent UNTIL IT IS FULLY TFd. That means 73 bits for expos > 57M.[/quote]
Look at this exponent pulled from my GPU72 completed report: [URL="http://www.mersenne.org/report_exponent/?exp_lo=58865089"]58865089[/URL]
Note that as of now it is not currently assigned to anybody and thus available for assignment as a first time LL (as of 2012-07-15 18:58:24 UTC), despite being TF'd to 72 on 2012-07-10. Please explain how GPU272 has kept the exponent.

[This is overly curt, but I'm short on time right now]

[QUOTE=Dubslow;304816]
PS The reason you've been banned over this is because, in this area, you have consistently shown a lack of ability to do any sort of logical reasoning or understand what people say to you.
[/QUOTE]
I read this forum more astutely than most.
I have monitored GIMPS progress closely since I joined.
Prior to joining I had written an LL test and a TF program and
verified that M29 was M29.

Who is the one who doesn't listen/understand?

Logical enough?

D

PS I have to admit that garbling anything I post may disrupt logical continuity. It doesn't destroy the substance of the wisdom though.

[QUOTE=sdbardwick;304831]Note that as of now it is not currently assigned to anybody and thus available for assignment as a first time LL (as of 2012-07-15 18:58:24 UTC), despite being TF'd to 72 on 2012-07-10. Please explain how GPU272 has kept the exponent.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately Dubslow spoke without fully understanding how things work...

GPU72 hasn't kept this assignment because I don't like having too many held at any one time. Since PrimeNet won't be handing out 58Ms for LL testing for quite some time (unless you explicitly ask for one via the manual assignment page) we have lots of time to bring them back in to take to 73 bits in the near future.