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xilman 2011-01-22 20:28

[QUOTE=davar55;248448]To do so just to run up your count is obviously spamming. Very bad.[/QUOTE]It is far from spamming, in the traditional use of that word on the internet. I suggest that you research the meaning.

Paul

davieddy 2011-01-22 20:32

[QUOTE=Xyzzy;248109][COLOR=white].[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

My mother made me a homosexual.

If you supply the material and ask her nicely she'll
make you one too.

David

cheesehead 2011-01-22 20:33

[QUOTE=davar55;248172]Why one suggestion at a time?

Because an avalanche of "good" suggestions "looks like"
a political agenda and not a social one.[/QUOTE]Good grief!

(I note your gratuitous use of "avalanche" for exaggeration.)

What "political agenda" does an "avalanche" of "good" suggestions for meeting the global warming problem "look like"? What are your criteria for distinguishing a "political agenda" from a "social agenda"? (For that matter, an "avalanche" from any other grouping of ideas?)

Suppose someone proposes only one solution for global warming. Why would the smallness of number categorize it as a "social agenda", whereas a longer list "looks like" a "political agenda?

Is anyone who's studied a problem for a long time, and has read lots and lots of ideas, and can list several of them at a time, pursuing a "political agenda"? What constraints on "good" suggestions are required to confine a list to the realm of "social agenda" so that it does not spill over into "political agenda"?

And why does a list of many suggestions "look like" a "political agenda" without any reference to [I]the nature of any suggestion[/I] in it?

(Oops -- that's probably so many questions that it's a "political" question list!)

davar55 2011-01-22 20:47

[QUOTE=cheesehead;248473]Good grief!

(I note your gratuitous use of "avalanche" for exaggeration.)

What "political agenda" does an "avalanche" of "good" suggestions for meeting the global warming problem "look like"? What are your criteria for distinguishing a "political agenda" from a "social agenda"? (For that matter, an "avalanche" from any other grouping of ideas?)

Suppose someone proposes only one solution for global warming. Why would the smallness of number categorize it as a "social agenda", whereas a longer list "looks like" a "political agenda?

Is anyone who's studied a problem for a long time, and has read lots and lots of ideas, and can list several of them at a time, pursuing a "political agenda"? What constraints on "good" suggestions are required to confine a list to the realm of "social agenda" so that it does not spill over into "political agenda"?

And why does a list of many suggestions "look like" a "political agenda" without any reference to [I]the nature of any suggestion[/I] in it?

(Oops -- that's probably so many questions that it's a "political" question list!)[/QUOTE]

Before I finish reading the above, let's start with your wrong assumptions.

Is there global warming?

If so, is it really a problem?

davar55 2011-01-22 20:59

[QUOTE=xilman;248466]It is far from spamming, in the traditional use of that word on the internet. I suggest that you research the meaning.
[/QUOTE]

Would you care to provide a link?

cheesehead 2011-01-22 21:00

[QUOTE=davar55;248479]Before I finish reading the above, let's start with your wrong assumptions.[/QUOTE]Which assumptions are those?

[quote]Is there global warming?[/quote]I thought we covered that earlier. Didn't you follow any of the several links I quoted earlier, where you could find explanations to answer that question?

For myself, I've been following this issue for over twenty years, and I've concluded ([I]not assumed![/I]) that anthropogenic global warming exists.

[quote]If so, is it really a problem?[/quote]See what's written at the links I posted above. Draw your own conclusions.

For me: if I define "problem" as something that's going to have a significant effect on my own life, where I live now, and within my probable lifetime, the answer is "probably not". (The latter is a conclusion, not an assumption.)

If I define "problem" as something that's going to have a significant effect on the lives of many people at many locations around the world, in the coming century and beyond, the answer is "yes". (The latter is a conclusion, not an assumption.)

davar55 2011-01-22 21:01

I just noticed the YJ-Conjecture in Conjectures R Us.

Now that's real transient.

Might not be there again.

davar55 2011-01-22 21:05

Hi.

[QUOTE=cheesehead;248486]Which assumptions are those?

I thought we covered that earlier. Didn't you follow any of the several links I quoted earlier, where you could find explanations to answer that question?

For myself, I've been following this issue for over twenty years, and I've concluded ([I]not assumed![/I]) that anthropogenic global warming exists.

See what's written at the links I posted above. Draw your own conclusions.

For me: if I define "problem" as something that's going to have a significant effect on my own life, where I live now, and within my probable lifetime, the answer is "probably not". (The latter is a conclusion, not an assumption.)

If I define "problem" as something that's going to have a significant effect on the lives of many people at many locations around the world, in the coming century and beyond, the answer is "yes". (The latter is a conclusion, not an assumption.)[/QUOTE]

Your conclusions become my assumptions to disprove them.

If AGW exists, it might be ultimately beneficial.

Hence why is it a social or political problem now?

Batalov 2011-01-22 21:14

[QUOTE=xilman;248433]I suggest you attempt to control your logorrhea and, if possible, your symptoms of OCD.

Paul[/QUOTE]
I thought of logorrhea as well, but it sounds rather like [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_of_speech"]Pressure of speech[/URL]. I briefly met IRL a (very talented) person who was exactly like that. And if it matters to you, David, it is not meant as an insult.

As for YJ-Conjecture in Conjectures R Us, that forum is for very specific conjectures (see [URL="http://mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=9738"]here[/URL]) and it will most likely be moved because it simply doesn't belong there.

xilman 2011-01-22 21:14

[QUOTE=davar55;248485]Would you care to provide a link?[/QUOTE]No.

Once more, I refuse to indulge in spoon-feeding someone who is presumably not in need of nose-wiping and diaper-changing.

Paul

davar55 2011-01-22 21:21

[QUOTE=xilman;248496]No.

Once more, I refuse to indulge in spoon-feeding someone who is presumably not in need of nose-wiping and diaper-changing.
[/QUOTE]

And once more I refuse to post any response at all to an insult.


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