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xilman 2018-12-10 19:40

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SWMBO and I visited Laly's Bar in Puerto Naos yesterday. The official name is El Buccanero but everyone calls it Laly's Bar. She's been running it ever since we first went there >20 years ago.

Anyway, this was far too good an opportunity to pass up.

LaurV 2018-12-11 05:29

Excellent! Can't stop laughing...
This are "Things that make you go."
("Hmmm...")
:rofl:

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-13 09:47

Hey Paul, I’m glad the weather there is nicer than currently in Cambridge, maximum today is 6 degC. Tuesday morning was below zero whislt driving, today a bit warmer.

pinhodecarlos 2018-12-19 19:47

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kriesel 2018-12-19 20:26

Far out
 
[url]https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/solar-system/a25607727/most-distant-solar-system-object-dwarf-planet/[/url]

Batalov 2018-12-21 15:58

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Did the media managers for the Putin's 2018 press conference sleep through the 80s?
This photo is hilarious ([SPOILER]ok, for the younger ones - look up 'apple 1984 commercial'[/SPOILER])

Dr Sardonicus 2018-12-21 16:57

[QUOTE=Batalov;503544]Did the media managers for the Putin's 2018 press conference sleep through the 80s?[/QUOTE]
Maybe they hadn't been born yet.
[QUOTE]This photo is hilarious ([SPOILER]ok, for the younger ones - look up 'apple 1984 commercial'[/SPOILER])[/QUOTE]
Hmm. It looks like everyone in the [i]audience[/i] is sleeping through the press conference, though. I guess Putin has some work to do on his Cult of Personality.

In [u]The Gulag Archipelago[/u], Solzhenitsyn mentions an incident when Stalin gave a speech, and the applause after he was done went on and on. Five minutes. Ten minutes. Everyone's hands were getting sore, but everyone was afraid to be the [i]first[/i] one to stop applauding. But after ten minutes, one man finally was courageous enough to stop. Everyone else was then free to stop applauding. The brave man, however, was almost immediately dragged away by security agents.

It seems his sacrifice was not in vain, though. Some time after I read of this incident, I saw a film of Stalin giving a speech. After he was done, the audience gave him a standing ovation. After this had gone on for a while, an electric bell could be heard r-r-r-r-ringing. This was the signal that it was all right to stop applauding...

LaurV 2018-12-27 10:24

Haha, that is a funny story. In my country during the communism there was a photo circulating underground with ceausescu's speech at some world-leaders meeting, that meeting lasted few days and all leaders took it on stage to say something; on the day ceausescu was speaking there was no people in the hall, most probably nobody gave a sh!t at the time, about some east european unknown guy speaking, so only few guyz and galz here and there, leaders of other states that had nothing better to do, or their bodyguards or something... Now, our local newspapers could not publish a photo of the most loved son of the country speaking to an empty hall, so they doctored it, by pasting the hall full of people from the day before, when Carter (or was it Reagan? or Nixon?) was speaking. Or they cut and pasted ceausescu instead of the potus a day before, to show the stuffed hall. Or whatever. The result was that in the newspaper appeared a photo with one ceausescu speaking on the stage, and another ceausescu watching carefully in the audience - of course he was present on the day potus spoke! :rofl:

All internal photos always showed him talking to a room full of people who were eagerly listening or applauding, so who the hack would think about the fact that he could be in audience? Nobody ever even looked for it, haha.

This is a true story. They did huge efforts next days to collect (and burn) all the newspapers, but the hurt was done. Few clever people hidden few newspapers, or cut out photos, which were circulating underground (between close friends) in the eighties.

Dr Sardonicus 2018-12-27 14:12

[QUOTE=LaurV;504096] <snip> Now, our local newspapers could not publish a photo of the most loved son of the country speaking to an empty hall, so they doctored it, by pasting the hall full of people from the day before, when Carter (or was it Reagan? or Nixon?) was speaking. Or they cut and pasted ceausescu instead of the potus a day before, to show the stuffed hall. Or whatever. The result was that in the newspaper appeared a photo with one ceausescu speaking on the stage, and another ceausescu watching carefully in the audience - of course he was present on the day potus spoke! :rofl:

All internal photos always showed him talking to a room full of people who were eagerly listening or applauding, so who the hack would think about the fact that he could be in audience? Nobody ever even looked for it, haha.

This is a true story. They did huge efforts next days to collect (and burn) all the newspapers, but the hurt was done. Few clever people hidden few newspapers, or cut out photos, which were circulating underground (between close friends) in the eighties.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised they didn't say the picture was proof positive that the man was superhuman, and could literally be in two places at once! I'm not sure how the folks responsible for the mistake fared, but my guess is, "not well."

I found an outline of [url=https://rolandia.eu/en/blog/history-of-romania/romania-under-nicolae-ceausescu-s-communist-regime]Romania under Nicolae Ceausescu's communist regime[/url].

One community that really wound up [i]under[/i] was the village of [url=https://www.boredpanda.com/geamana-village-sinking-industrial-waste-romania-amos-chapple/]Geamana[/url].

The story about trying to confiscate all the newspapers reminds me of a scene from the movie [i]Absence of Malice[/i] in which a young woman, finding the local paper has published a scandalous revelation about her (I think she'd had an abortion, but I'm not sure) was making a pathetic effort to gather up all the delivered papers on the neighbors' lawns.

It also reminds me of the Stalin era, when they were quite literally rewriting history -- sending agents with specially reprinted pages of books to replace the originals in libraries, etc.

I recall mentioning before that [i]Il Duce[/i]'s legal counsel tried (unsuccessfully) to coerce the publishers of [u]Fire and Fury[/u] to "cease and desist" from publication.

Here is [url=https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4343617/Read-Trump-lawyer-s-letter-to-Michael-Wolff-and.pdf]The actual cease-and-desist letter[/url]. It reminds me of someone threatening to shoot while brandishing an empty gun.

The publisher's legal counsel Elizabeth McNamara pointed this out in a [url=https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4345182/3986-1.pdf]formal response[/url]. Since this file is an image, I provide a text version, as found, e.g. [url=https://www.shelf-awareness.com/issue.html?issue=3160#m39028]here[/url]. I have bolded some of my favorite passages.

[quote]Dear Mr. Harder:

I write as counsel to Henry Holt and Company, Inc. ("Henry Holt") and Mr. Michael Wolff in response to your letter dated January 4, 2018, concerning your client, President Donald J. Trump. [b]Without identifying a single false statement[/b], your letter broadly challenges Mr. Wolff's book titled Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House published Friday, and an excerpt from the book published in a January 3, 2018 New York magazine article, as containing "false/baseless statements" about President Trump that give rise to a host of legal claims. As a result, you demand that my clients cease publication of the book and "issue a full and complete retraction and apology." My clients do not intend to cease publication, no such retraction will occur, and no apology is warranted.

As President Trump knows, Mr. Wolff was permitted extraordinary access to the Trump administration and campaign from May 2016 to this past October, and he conducted more than 200 interviews with President Trump, most members of his senior staff, and with many people they in turn talked to. These interviews served as the basis for the reporting in Mr. Wolff's book. We have no reason to doubt--and your letter provides no reason to change this conclusion--that Mr. Wolff's book is an accurate report on events of vital public importance. Mr. Trump is the President of the United States, with the "bully pulpit" at his disposal. To the extent he disputes any statement in the book, he has the largest platform in the world to challenge it. Generalized and abstract threats of libel do not provide any basis for President Trump's demand that Henry Holt and Mr. Wolff withdraw the book from public discourse. Though your letter provides a basic summary of New York libel law, tellingly, [b]it stops short of identifying a single statement in the book that is factually false or defamatory. [i]Instead, the letter appears to be designed to silence legitimate criticism. This is the antithesis of an actionable libel claim.[/i][/b]

Your letter does not resolve this key omission when it argues that actual malice can be proven because the book "admits in the Introduction that it contains untrue statements." It does no such thing. Instead, Mr. Wolff responsibly tells his readers his approach to confronting the well-established reality that many in this administration, most prominently the President, routinely traffic in verifiably false statements. Thus, Mr. Wolff explains how he attempted to reconcile conflicting accounts. Surely you are not contending that Mr. Wolff, in reporting on a falsehood told him by, e.g., a member of the administration, is therefore necessarily reporting that it is true.

To briefly address a few of the additional substantive claims identified in your letter, we note that you understandably cite to New York as the governing law, yet we were surprised to see that President Trump plans on asserting a claim for "false light invasion of privacy." As you are no doubt aware, New York does not recognize such a cause of action. Messenger ex rel. Messenger v. Guner + Jahr Printing and Pub., 94 N.Y.2d 436, 448 (2000); Hurwitz v. U.S., 884 F.2d 684, 685 (2d Cir. 1989). Not only is this claim meritless; it is non-existent. In any event, it is patently ridiculous to claim that the privacy of the President of the United States has been violated by a book reporting on his campaign and his actions in office.

Next, your letter focuses on alleged claims for tortious interference with contractual relations and inducement of breach of contract. Yet, as your client will no doubt appreciate, timing is everything when it comes to these claims. And there is no dispute that Mr. Bannon had already communicated with Mr. Wolff freely and voluntarily well before the "notice" you have provided. Mr. Bannon plainly needed no cajoling or inducement to speak candidly with Mr. Wolff. And an after-the-fact lawyer's letter putting my clients "on notice" does not put the genie back in the bottle, much less subject Henry Holt or Mr. Wolff to liability. The law treats sources like Mr. Bannon as adults, and it is Mr. Bannon's responsibility--not Henry Holt's or Mr. Wolff's--to honor any contractual obligations. Indeed, your attempt to use private contracts to act as a blanket restriction on members of the government speaking to the press is a perversion of contract law and a gross violation of the First Amendment. No court would support such an attempt to silence public servants and the press.

Nor are these the only clear infirmities with this threatened claim. For a tortious interference with contractual relations action to be sustained, President Trump must prove that Henry Holt and Mr. Wolff actively and intentionally procured the breach for the sole purpose of harming Mr. Trump, his family, or businesses. Jacobs v. Continuum Health Partners, Inc., 7 A.D.3d 312, 313, 776 N.Y.S.2d 279, 280 (1st Dep't 2004). This he cannot do. A reporter, like Mr. Wolff, "whose motive and conduct is intended to foster public awareness and debate cannot be found to have engaged in the wrongful or improper conduct required" to state such a claim. See, e.g., Huggins v. Povitch, No. 131164/94, 1996 WL 515498, at *9 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Apr. 19, 1996). Put simply, the book's purpose is news reporting and nothing more.

Lastly, the majority of your letter--indeed, seven full pages--is devoted to instructing Henry Holt and Mr. Wolff in meticulous detail about their obligations to preserve documents that relate in any way to the book, the article, President Trump, his family members, their businesses, and his Presidential campaign. While my clients do not adopt or subscribe to your description of their legal obligations, Henry Holt and Mr. Wolff will comply with any and all document preservation obligations that the law imposes upon them. [b]At the same time, we must remind you that President Trump, in his personal and governmental capacity, must comply with the same legal obligations regarding himself, his family members, their businesses, the Trump campaign, and his administration, and must ensure all appropriate measures to preserve such documents are in place. This would include any and all documents pertaining to any of the matters about which the book reports. [i]Should you pursue litigation against Henry Holt or Mr. Wolff, we are quite confident that documents related to the contents of the book in the possession of President Trump, his family members, his businesses, his campaign, and his administration will prove particularly relevant to our defense.[/i][/b]

This letter is without waiver of any of Henry Holt's or Mr. Wolff's rights, remedies or defenses, all of which are expressly reserved.[/quote]

Xyzzy 2018-12-30 14:23

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Dr Sardonicus 2019-01-02 00:22

It might bemuse you to read this [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/jerry-falwell-jr-cant-imagine-trump-doing-anything-thats-not-good-for-the-country/2018/12/21/6affc4c4-f19e-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?noredirect=on]Extract of an interview with Jerry Falwell, Jr[/url].

Me, I was almost acting like the duck leaving the barber shop at the end of the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS83HdpzxDU]AFLAC ad with Yogi Berra[/url]

My favorite quote from Falwell:

[quote]A poor person never gave anybody charity, not of any real volume.[/quote]

I guess the story told in Mark 12:41-44 and Luke 21:1-4 doesn't mean much to him...


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