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BudgieJane 2018-09-13 18:58

[QUOTE=S485122;495966]I don't know if it is the EU, One thing is sure : from one Disney rule to another the copyrights duration has gone from nothing, to 14 years after creation, to 100 years after the death or the author (which can be a company ! and companies never die, they also are "persons" but cannot be condemned to the same punishment as other "persons" : ever seen a company in prison ?)

Just as with patent law there is not much justice in the current law.

Jacob[/QUOTE]

I thought that with companies the copyright period was so many years after first publication.

To put a company in prison I'd have thought you would bang up the CEO or some other high-ranking officer(s) of the said company. That ought to concentrate the minds of the board of directors into getting their workers to obey the law. However, I have never seen that happen.

chalsall 2018-09-13 20:20

[QUOTE=BudgieJane;496021]I thought that with companies the copyright period was so many years after first publication.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Under US of A law, 95 years after first publication, or 120 years after creation (whichever comes first).

Interestingly, Corporations were originally made "People" in order to facilitate the transfer of Patents and Copyrights to them. Originally these could only be owned by humans.

Nick 2018-09-14 13:25

[QUOTE=MisterBitcoin;495964][URL="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-copyright/eu-lawmakers-back-publishers-over-tech-giants-on-copyright-idUSKCN1LS1QR"]EU "upload filter" passed EU parliament. [/URL][/QUOTE]
Does this mean we can get webcams taken offline simply by showing them copyrighted material?

jasong 2018-09-17 06:47

Is the European law stuff copyrighted? If we make a meme out of the EU copyright law, would they copystrike themselves?

xilman 2018-09-17 08:30

[QUOTE=jasong;496218]Is the European law stuff copyrighted? If we make a meme out of the EU copyright law, would they copystrike themselves?[/QUOTE]
An interesting question, to which I do not yet have a good answer.

xilman 2018-09-17 14:38

[QUOTE=xilman;496229]An interesting question, to which I do not yet have a good answer.[/QUOTE]A friend tweeted [url]http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/notice_copyright/index_en.htm[/url] in response to my question.

jasong 2018-09-19 00:44

[QUOTE=xilman;496248]A friend tweeted [url]http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/notice_copyright/index_en.htm[/url] in response to my question.[/QUOTE]
I have this fantasy where I go back in time and make it so laws can only be passed if there's a flowchart associated with them that exactly duplicates the written rules.

Put another way, the laws would work like a computer program and opinions would only matter if they came from a jury. Matter in the legal sense, I mean.

In this age of the internet, I'm imagining a flowchart that's more than 2-dimensional, you'd only see the parts that are nearby.

jasong 2018-09-20 20:42

Google is so infuriating
 
I know I depend on Google to find stuff, but that's one of the reasons I find them so infuriating.

I figured out that there's more than one "Jason Goatcher" account on Youtube, and I became curious. So I did a search for the channel "Jason Goatcher" to see the other channel.

The result comes back that nothing was found. Hmmmmm, so I try putting quotes around Jason Goatcher. Still nothing.

So, even though I know for a fact there are at least 2 accounts with the label "Jason Goatcher" for whatever reason Google doesn't want to supply either one to me.

science_man_88 2018-09-20 21:44

[QUOTE=jasong;496467]I know I depend on Google to find stuff, but that's one of the reasons I find them so infuriating.

I figured out that there's more than one "Jason Goatcher" account on Youtube, and I became curious. So I did a search for the channel "Jason Goatcher" to see the other channel.

The result comes back that nothing was found. Hmmmmm, so I try putting quotes around Jason Goatcher. Still nothing.

So, even though I know for a fact there are at least 2 accounts with the label "Jason Goatcher" for whatever reason Google doesn't want to supply either one to me.[/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAAMYmaFk0cfC8ZmALy4v0Q?app=desktop[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh6FdIZTxY4&app=desktop[/url]

jasong 2018-09-21 22:59

[QUOTE=science_man_88;496471][url]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAAMYmaFk0cfC8ZmALy4v0Q?app=desktop[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh6FdIZTxY4&app=desktop[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks.

And just so people know, even though the channel is associated with a mental health place, that's not me in the video. I have zero musical talent.

Though the dude does remind me of my brother.

jvang 2018-10-06 01:08

It's good to know that the extension office (responsible for publications, I suppose?) at the university I plan to attend has published an article on shooting cacti, according to Wikipedia:

[QUOTE]Cactus plugging is the practice of vandalizing or destroying a cactus, usually a saguaro, for fun. The Extension Office of the University of Arkansas says that the activity usually involves an inebriated person shooting at a cactus until it falls over.

In 1982, David Grundman was killed while cactus plugging. After shooting at a saguaro cactus he poked at it to try to make it fall over and caused an arm of the cactus, weighing 500 pounds (230 kg) to fall on him. The trunk of the cactus then also fell on him.

References
Klingaman, Gerald (December 12, 2008), Plant of the Week: Saguaro Cactus, University of Arkansas, archived from the original on April 5, 2013, retrieved 2013-02-13.[/QUOTE]

He should have waited 3 years and gotten a Darwin Award! :jvang:

I don't believe that the article's original website is still available, but here's archive.org: [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20130405230825/http://www.arhomeandgarden.org/plantoftheweek/articles/saguaro_cactus_12-12-08.htm[/url]


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