[QUOTE=retina;392019]You need to read more abut it. It is not as simple as you make it out to be. Reading the state also has the side effect of destroying the entanglement. Anyhow, this is already used for communication, it is not a new thing. But your magical world in the post above is not anything close to how it actually works.[/QUOTE]
No shit, dude, we barely understand it at all. I was talking about possibilities, not confirmed facts.

It's like Edison and the telephone, he could only guess at the potential of his device.

You're kind of a glass half empty kind of guy, huh? You ever fantasize about the possibilities of certain scientific discoveries? Like, I don't know, the possibility the speed of light limit can be worked around, or that maybe someday the cost of space travel will be pennies on the pound, like with aircraft?

[QUOTE=jasong;392021]No shit, dude, we barely understand it at all. I was talking about possibilities, not confirmed facts.[/QUOTE]
You want to live in your fantasyland of "infinite possibilities" by remaining ignorant of the science, fine - but then don't try to pretend you have any clue about, or interest in, the science.

[QUOTE]It's like Edison and the telephone, he could only guess at the potential of his device.[/QUOTE]
You are more correct than you realize - the factual (and even theoretical) basis for your 'argumentation' is very akin to "Edison and the telephone."

[QUOTE=ewmayer;392112]You want to live in your fantasyland of "infinite possibilities" by remaining ignorant of the science, fine - but then don't try to pretend you have any clue about, or interest in, the science.


You are more correct than you realize - the factual (and even theoretical) basis for your 'argumentation' is very akin to "Edison and the telephone."[/QUOTE]
I wasn't living in a fantasy-land, if we discover the ability to transfer non-random information using quantum entanglement, that opens a whole new world for us. Changing exactly one variable is science fiction, not fantasy. And since it was only the one variable, I considered it okay to post. If you re-read what I post, everything is totally possible with the new assumption of non-random information.

[QUOTE=retina;392019]You need to read more abut it. It is not as simple as you make it out to be. Reading the state also has the side effect of destroying the entanglement. Anyhow, this is already used for communication, it is not a new thing. But your magical world in the post above is not anything close to how it actually works.[/QUOTE]
You're assuming that the state will always be destroyed, but it's totally possible we could figure out how to maintain the connection.

The thing that fascinates me is the idea about the crystals. I wonder what the power requirements are.

[QUOTE=jasong;392120]You're assuming that the state will always be destroyed, but it's totally possible we could figure out how to maintain the connection.[/QUOTE]Yep, why not indeed. Those pesky laws of physics should be revoked and replaced with magical fairyland [i]suggestions[/i] instead. Then we can have our cake and eat it too.

People are exaggerating the impact of something like this but pretty neat all the same.

[url]http://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/watch-rochester-cloak-uses-ordinary-lenses-to-hide-objects-across-continuous-range-of-angles-70592/[/url]

[QUOTE=jasong;392118]If you re-read what I post, everything is totally possible with the new assumption of non-random information.[/QUOTE]

Including going back in time and having Edison - rather than that other fellow - invent the telephone, presumably.

[QUOTE=ewmayer;392125]Including going back in time and having Edison - rather than that other fellow - invent the telephone, presumably.[/QUOTE]
You mean Elisha Gray? Or Antonio Meucci? :razz:
[edit: wiki has many nice articles about both the invention and the history of the telephone, by the way, together with all the "this guy versus that guy" casuistic for patents war, if I remember right].

ce Setting The Record Straight For Alan Turing
 

[url]http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2015/01/06/375356142/setting-the-record-straight-for-alan-turing[/url]

[QUOTE]Imagine, for a moment, that Albert Einstein's greatest contributions were kept secret at the highest levels of government. Imagine, for a moment, that while still relatively young, Einstein was prosecuted, shamed and driven to suicide for the inclinations of his affections. Imagine, for a moment, that in the wake of the secrecy, the shame and the suicide, you never knew Albert Einstein's name.
Seems crazy, doesn't it? In many ways, however, that narrative is the story of Alan Turing. Thankfully, it's a story that is finally getting aired in popular culture through the new film [I][URL="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2084970/"]The Imitation Game[/URL][/I].
Until relatively recently, most folks wouldn't come across Turing's name unless they had a certain kind of computational orientation. "Turing" doesn't ring the same bells as Einstein, Newton, Darwin or even Heisenberg, Watson and Crick. But, without doubt, Alan Turing should be on their list of science giants.
It's not just that Turing's work was worthy of a Nobel Prize. He went far beyond that. Turing possessed an epoch-making genius of the highest order — and his impact on human civilization is in line with the heights that kind of genius yields. That's why Turing's omission from everyone's list of super-scientists is so galling. But worse, still, are the circumstances of that omission's occurrence, driven by a confluence of two remarkable factors — an accident of history and pure narrow-minded fear.
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If you want to know about Alan Turing's life and his achievements, read his biography "Alan Turing: The Enigma" (ISBN 9781784700089) by Andrew Hodges, a fellow at Oxford who developed twistor diagrams with Roger Penrose. It is a highly scholarly account, and a captivating read.

For just a taste of it, watch the play "Breaking the Code". This ran in London's West End and then on Broadway in New York in the 1980's before being made into a short film (with the same name) starring Derek Jacobi. The film was also broadcast in the US. And if you are in England, a visit to the museum at Bletchley Park and the National Museum of Computing next door is definitely worthwhile.

But, apparently, the makers of the new film "The Imitation Game" missed all this and are convinced that they are bringing his story to the world for the first time. They also gave themselves the right to change important facts about what happened.

Yes. I am aware that the are considerable faults in the current offering. It is something for Turing to get any attention at all in the wider world.